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The trial of Molly Martens

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    #1172
    coffeepls
    Registered Users Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭coffeepls


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That was heavily edited- whether because he said other things they didn't want broadcast or what, I don't know, but very heavily edited- bad journalism in my opinion-

    I'd say the 20:20 show thought they had a perfect "will be found not-guilty" case to air after the trail, when they started shooting this episode and as a result layered the pre-trial interviews with this "schmaltz".

    In fact, it's this type of presentation to the public that had me totally convinced that at least one of them if not both would walk free.

    I don't think the programme makers were expecting a guilty verdict at the end of it either.
    Totally agree with you - I also got the impression from the initial part of the video that they were trying to make a case of their 'innocence'. Interesting the way they (the production) tried to change it to being more objective - the members of the jury seemed to have no doubts!


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    #1173
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    The majority of the anti Martens followers comments - usernames have been removed from the go fund page.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #1174
    Missix
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Missix


    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    The majority of the anti Martens followers comments - usernames have been removed from the go fund page.

    That's a pity,my own personal favourite was the username 'Tom-Swallows-Now'.

    Can't imagine they liked that one :)


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    #1175
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Gadgetman496 wrote:
    The majority of the anti Martens followers comments - usernames have been removed from the go fund page.


    Damn I have to delete cookies new email and follow again....ah well.


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    #1176
    Whiplash85
    Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Whiplash85


    The similarities in personality between Amanda Knox and Molly Martens are uncanny. They both present very socially awkward when in public as well. The only difference between the pair is that Martens seemed to genuinely care about someone i.e. the children whereas Knox is a complete narcissist who didn't care about anyone. Not content in ruining their own lives they seek to drag down their nearest and dearest as well.


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    #1177
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Whiplash85 wrote: »
    The similarities in personality between Amanda Knox and Molly Martens are uncanny. They both present very socially awkward when in public as well. The only difference between the pair is that Martens seemed to genuinely care about someone i.e. the children whereas Knox is a complete narcissist who didn't care about anyone. Not content in ruining their own lives they seek to drag down their nearest and dearest as well.

    Not forgetting the very important fact that Knox isn't a murderer.


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    #1178
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    anna080 wrote:
    Not forgetting the very important fact that Knox isn't a murderer.


    Neither is OJ......


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    #1179
    irishmoss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭irishmoss


    Missix wrote: »
    She battered him with the brick,and Daddy the hero hopped in.And he feels 'righteous' in doing that.

    The parents received 6 phone calls that day before they arrived unannounced. Having had dealings with someone who has had Borderline Personality Disorder I can tell you, you don't know how manipulative they can be and I can only imagine the lies and pressure she put on her parents.

    I don't think the parents came there that night to kill Jason, they would not have waited so long to call the ambulance, the FBI guy would have planned it better. No I think Molly wound the father up so much about the abuse she was supposedly suffering and said she was worried Jason would attack her so after the 6 phone calls they decide to call and stay the night.

    I think Molly used the father to kill Jason as Jason was a big guy and even after been hit by the brick and he was drugged with the sleeping tablets he did try and save himself ( from photo's the altercation moved from the bedroom to the hall and bathroom. Molly would not have been able to do this on her own so she needed Daddy on hand to finish him off.


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    #1180
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    I don't think it's a case Jason forgot her parents were there, it's more like Molly remembered they were there and used it to stage a scene by purposefully aggravating Jason in some way.

    All planned by Molly.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #1181
    Missix
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Missix


    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    I don't think it's a case Jason forgot her parents were there, it's more like Molly remembered they were there and used it to stage a scene by purposefully aggravating Jason in some way.

    All planned by Molly.

    A brick in the head while you lay there sleeping would be a tad aggravating alright.

    She is so evil and manipulative:mad:


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    #1182
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    In Earnest Mona, removing comments from the go fund page isn't going to change the verdicts.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #1183
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Deleted User wrote:
    85 followers down from a high of about 106 earlier today- still some choice usernames there.


    One choice name is 'Molly Sucks' not sure how much sucking goes on in a women's prison but who knows.


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    #1184
    Ursus Horribilis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    In Earnest Mona, removing comments from the go fund page isn't going to change the verdicts.

    It's also a nine day wonder of a story. Soon this will be replaced with another story and then another one. They'll be struggling to get any sort of attention for this gruesome twosome's "plight"


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    #1185
    Auldloon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Auldloon


    I believe that if you've followed that page and are removed all you have to do is to again press follow to be reinstated :)


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    #1186
    fepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    Molly does across as the proudest and caring mother from those photo,also the kids look very happy,you'd wonder what reasons why he wouldn't let them have joint custody early on in the marriage,it would seem natural to me,its a sign of trust,he did marry her.


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    #1187
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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    #1188
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    fepper wrote: »
    Molly does across as the proudest and caring mother from those photo,also the kids look very happy,you'd wonder what reasons why he wouldn't let them have joint custody early on in the marriage,it would seem natural to me,its a sign of trust,he did marry her.

    Sign that he didn't trust her so... and rightly so!


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    #1189
    kylith
    Registered Users Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    fepper wrote: »
    Molly does across as the proudest and caring mother from those photo,also the kids look very happy,you'd wonder what reasons why he wouldn't let them have joint custody early on in the marriage,it would seem natural to me,its a sign of trust,he did marry her.

    It's possible that initially he felt like it would be 'replacing' their mum, and maybe as time went on he felt something was off about her.


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    #1190
    Paddy Cow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Foweva Awone wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApPXESElsuM
    Thank you for posting this. It was hard to watch and it looked like they were taking the side of Molly and Tom. The first 2/3rd's is heavily biased in their favour. The last part though absolutely put to bed any thought that Jason was an aggressor. Even their most ardent supporters would find it hard to find fault with the prosecution and the jury.


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    #1191
    Wexfordboy89
    Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭Wexfordboy89


    Deleted User wrote: »
    85 followers down from a high of about 106 earlier today- still some choice usernames there.

    https://gogetfunding.com/right-the-wrong-help-molly-tom/

    Down to 65 now


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    #1192
    fepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    kylith wrote: »
    It's possible that initially he felt like it would be 'replacing' their mum, and maybe as time went on he felt something was off about her.

    Adoption is very much the same and works out in most cases, didn't he marry again,


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    #1193
    Minnie Snuggles
    Registered Users Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Minnie Snuggles


    fepper wrote: »
    Molly does across as the proudest and caring mother from those photo,also the kids look very happy,you'd wonder what reasons why he wouldn't let them have joint custody early on in the marriage,it would seem natural to me,its a sign of trust,he did marry her.

    Maybe his respect for the Fitzpatrick family, I can easily imagine him assuring them that Mags would never be forgotton and that she would always be their mother.


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    #1194
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Wonder why the Ethnic Group section of Toms Mugshot it empty?


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    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #1195
    Auldloon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Auldloon


    fepper wrote: »
    Molly does across as the proudest and caring mother from those photo,also the kids look very happy,you'd wonder what reasons why he wouldn't let them have joint custody early on in the marriage,it would seem natural to me,its a sign of trust,he did marry her.

    Molly wanted to get married she felt it would give her legitimacy that she would no longer be seen as just the au pair. This is nothing new for her if you read the extracts from her ex's book he says she wanted to get engaged she thought it would make her feel better and it did work for one day. So he married her but as he got to know her better he never went ahead with giving her legal rights to the kids which also tells a lot.


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    #1196
    fepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    Minnie Snuggles wrote: »
    Maybe his respect for the Fitzpatrick family, I can easily imagine him assuring them that Mags would never be forgotton and that she would always be their mother.

    My point is when she came over here as a nanny to his children,that was probably her only intention at the time, but probably fell in love with the whole family unit and then married into that family unit,thats a fair commitment for her to raise his children unconditionally even though she was not their birth mother and after getting married, she was more or less still a 'nanny' even if now a family unit,that could deeply upset her and cause friction,if he felt confident to marry her and trust her with his children,then it would have been a no brainer to be a co guardian of the children,it would also show his commitment and trust to his new wife


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    #1197
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    And Irelands media continue to give airtime to this wan. Ye dirty sellout cretionous fcuks


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    #1198
    Underground
    Registered Users Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Underground


    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    Wonder why the Ethnic Group section of Toms Mugshot it empty?


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    I would likely chalk it up to a simple admin error, nothing more.


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    #1199
    myshirt
    Registered Users Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    I like the follower on the page named 'You're not smirking now Tom'

    Brilliant.


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    #1200
    fepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    Wonder why the Ethnic Group section of Toms Mugshot it empty?


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    Or has a Irish passport now in mollys case


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    #1201
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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