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The trial of Molly Martens

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    #1262
    juno10353
    Registered Users Posts: 549 ✭✭✭juno10353


    I complained to the go fundme site owners about slanderous content on the page, and this is the reply

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    #1263
    bigpink
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Indo printing pics of the kids a disgrace


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    #1264
    [Deleted User]
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    juno10353 wrote: »
    I complained to the go fundme site owners about slanderous content on the page... 

    You can't defame the dead.


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    #1265
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    SimpleDimples wrote: »
    Evidence of him raising his voice once. Convienently recorded by her without his knowledge.
    She was baiting him - it was setting him up so she would have evidence.
    Sounds like a typical family agrument, he's frustrated yes but abusive no.
    The defense couldn't find anyone else to testify that she was in an abusive relationship, no doctors reports, no friends, her family didn't testify in the end, no counselling re DV, nothing.

    They coached the kids or the interviews fgs - everything was manipulated and it annoys me that people are taken in by the lies.

    I agree completely.


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    #1266
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,322 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I never buy the Sunday Indo, on principle. Very low standards with over 20 years. Would leave tabloids blushing.

    I think many of us have worked with, or know socially, some one who is very manipulative and its me, me ,me. Molly fits very well into that. The only daughter of daddy didn't help her.
    She went headlong into relationships, much of it driven by her needs.


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    #1267
    Shemale
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    James Bond Junior wrote: »
    I can't imagine her brothers will want their ex con sister living with them, they will have worked hard to eradicate all traces of her from their all American lives.

    The entire family are stir crazy, the pretend raid to Jasons office to get the kids passports and one of the brothers after the conviction saying this is one of the biggest miscarriages of justice ever(or words to that effect)

    Absolute scumbags, as if drugging and killing a guy in his sleep isn't bad enough, making the Corbetts pay for the ambulance, trying to adopt the kids 3 days later, trying to slur Jason's good character and then trying to accuse him of murdering his first wife.

    May they both get the worst possible time in prison imaginable and get violated every night, good enough for them.


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    #1268
    MarcusP12
    Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭MarcusP12


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You can't defame the dead.

    Obviously you are correct as you are a legal professional but how do you stop someone from printing or making serious allegations (either blatantly untrue or unsubstantiated) against someone who is no longer alive to defend their honor or otherwise good name? Its a genuine questions as it doesn't seem fair (to the lay man) or right that they can make these claims and for there to be no fall out from it or any mechanism for Jason's family to challenge the claims....


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    #1269
    Fred Swanson
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    #1270
    bear1
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    gordongekko wrote: »
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/fbi-agent-daughter-found-guilty-murder-happened-night/story?id=49133544

    "You know" "You know" over and over and over. It was annoying reading that.
    Gave me the impression she was overdoing it and also that she seemed like she was trying to believe her own idiotic story.
    Should have been life for them both considering they made 2 children orphanes and one father underground.
    Amazing that the father said what would any reasonable father do.. the whole time they plotted his murder to have Jason's kids. Sick ****s.


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    #1271
    mightyreds
    Registered Users Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭mightyreds


    bear1 wrote: »
    "You know" "You know" over and over and over. It was annoying reading that.
    Gave me the impression she was overdoing it and also that she seemed like she was trying to believe her own idiotic story.
    Should have been life for them both considering they made 2 children orphanes and one father underground.
    Amazing that the father said what would any reasonable father do.. the whole time they plotted his murder to have Jason's kids. Sick ****s.

    The part about when the dad got in the room and he switches his grip to a rear choke hold then shouts 'I'm going to kill her' like some super villain just sounds like such crap!


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    #1272
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You can't defame the dead.

    @Connor74, Have you any thoughts on what possible grounds these two might lodge an appeal and can you see any scenario whereby thy could be successful?

    I'd love to think it's just them going through the motions to exhaust all possible avenues before finally accepting their fate, but the law can work in what seems strange ways to the layperson at times.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #1273
    fepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    It was probably a way harder to get Joe o Reilly convicted here who blatantly planned it to avoid detection,this case was far more convictable from a police point of view, given the paving stone and injuries evidence,their defence had to put up a self defence case otherwise the verdict would be straight murder


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    #1274
    captbarnacles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭captbarnacles


    Paving stone part of childrens art project apparently.

    2 years to come up with that excuse.


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    #1275
    fineso.mom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭fineso.mom


    captbarnacles wrote: »
    Paving stone part of childrens art project apparently.

    2 years to come up with that excuse.

    I read somewhere else that Molly heard that there were cases of phones getting hot while charging and causing fires. So she put the paving stone on the nightstand as it was fireproof. I can't remember where I read that but I'm sure it also mentioned that it was during a police interview she said it.
    I thought at the time that that was a reasonable enough excuse so was surprised when it wasn't mentioned in court as part of the defence.


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    #1276
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    fineso.mom wrote: »
    I read somewhere else that Molly heard that there were cases of phones getting hot while charging and causing fires. So she put the paving stone on the nightstand as it was fireproof. I can't remember where I read that but I'm sure it also mentioned that it was during a police interview she said it.
    I thought at the time that that was a reasonable enough excuse so was surprised when it wasn't mentioned in court as part of the defence.

    I remember reading that too but I thought it was mentioned by a poster here only as a suggested possible excuse that could be used for having a brick on your nightstand, not an actual excuse made by Molly. May be wrong on that though.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #1277
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Reading on websleuth that apparently Sharon Martens gave/hid a number for them to call in an emergency so it reads as if she knew Molly could lose her sh1t from time to time


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    #1278
    fepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    The tension in that house could have been enormous especially with a father in law there as well,the atmosphere you could cut with a knife if both of them didn't get on


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    #1279
    fepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    She said his daughter came downstairs to their door and molly got out of bed to comfort her and take her back to her own bed,came back to bed,woke Jason,he got mad at her for assisting his daughter and felt at 8years should not be treated like that,if that's true or not,it looks like a parent/nanny situation continued and the parent way is the only way,whatever his reasons for not allowing her joint guardianship and her having equal input in their lives had to have caused resentment towards him as they were adults and married,he shouldn't have married her if he didn't want her fully in her children life or else keep her on as a full time nanny only,you can't have it everyway


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    #1280
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    fepper wrote:
    She said his daughter came downstairs to their door and molly got out of bed to comfort her and take her back to her own bed,came back to bed,woke Jason,he got mad at her for assisting his daughter and felt at 8years should not be treated like that,if that's true or not,it looks like a parent/nanny situation continued and the parent way is the only way,whatever his reasons for not allowing her joint guardianship and her having equal input in their lives had to have caused resentment towards him as they were adults and married,he shouldn't have married her if he didn't want her fully in her children life or else keep her on as a full time nanny only,you can't have it everyway


    Are you trying to make some point?


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    #1281
    fepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Are you trying to make some point?

    No I'm posting for the fun of it


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    #1282
    gimli2112
    Registered Users Posts: 13,408 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    fepper wrote: »
    No I'm posting for the fun of it

    it's just that you began your post by accepting the word of a murderer and then created a fantasy, that's all


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    #1283
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    fepper wrote:
    No I'm posting for the fun of it


    So you idea of fun is repeating the lies of a convicted murderer. Strange tbh.


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    #1284
    fepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    it's just that you began your post by accepting the word of a murderer and then created a fantasy, that's all
    Of course,he was murdered but its no harm to wonder what could cause the circumstances that could trigger that murder,in Joe o Reillys case, he wrote emails to his sister that she was vile ,everything but good but probably still acting the good husband


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    #1285
    knucklehead6
    Registered Users Posts: 6,782 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    fepper wrote: »
    Of course,he was murdered but its no harm to wonder what could cause the circumstances that could trigger that murder

    Her being a psycho bitch is enough for me tbh


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    #1286
    Goodgollymolly
    Site Banned Posts: 1 ✭Goodgollymolly


    fepper wrote: »
    Of course,he was murdered but its no harm to wonder what could cause the circumstances that could trigger that murder,in Joe o Reillys case, he wrote emails to his sister that she was vile ,everything but good but probably still acting the good husband

    He wanted to come back to Ireland without molly, it would tear apart her whole happy family unit.

    Money and his children she wanted because she couldn't have her own, over all the meds she has been taking for YEARS.

    Always trust your parentally instinct.

    50 second phone call from Sharon to say Jason died in an accident, martens law enforcement members raiding his work place, and to use domestic abuse sick twisted.

    Before conviction, tom smirking, after conviction tom isn't smirking, he eyes are full of disbelief, he thought like most people he was getting off.

    The DPP could learn a thing or two from the DA of north Carolina.


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    #1287
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I am appalled that Molly tried to get the kids to testify on her behalf, yet she herself couldnt even be bothered take the stand. It was never about those kids and what's best for them. Just all about her wants and her needs.
    Also thanks to whoever mentioned websleuth earlier. I've been reading it most of the afternoon. Very interesting.


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    #1288
    myshirt
    Registered Users Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Have you a link to the websleuths? All I can see is a few dormant threads.


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    #1289
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    myshirt wrote: »
    Have you a link to the websleuths? All I can see is a few dormant threads.

    This is the most recent one

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?345991-Trial-of-Molly-Corbett-33-and-Thomas-Martens-67-in-the-death-of-Jason-Corbett-5/page70


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    #1290
    RacoonQueen
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,365 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    I would imagine he didn't want her to adopt the kids out of respect for his first wife and her family. That was what I assumed when I heard he 'wouldn't allow' her to adopt them. That's a fair reason tbh...if something happened to my sister and my BIL remarried and allowed his new wife to adopt my nephews I'd be heartbroken.


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    #1291
    kylith
    Registered Users Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    fepper wrote: »
    She said his daughter came downstairs to their door and molly got out of bed to comfort her and take her back to her own bed,came back to bed,woke Jason,he got mad at her for assisting his daughter and felt at 8years should not be treated like that,if that's true or not,it looks like a parent/nanny situation continued and the parent way is the only way,whatever his reasons for not allowing her joint guardianship and her having equal input in their lives had to have caused resentment towards him as they were adults and married,he shouldn't have married her if he didn't want her fully in her children life or else keep her on as a full time nanny only,you can't have it everyway

    Plenty of people marry partners with kids from previous marriages and don't adopt them. TBH I'd find her insistence on adopting them more curious.


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