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Helmets??

  • 29-07-2017 10:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭


    Obviously a crucial piece of kit, will be purchasing my first one soon, but confused as to which one to get. the prices vary so much. Cheaper options obviously appeal more, but is skimping on cost = skimping on safety?

    If you were buying a new helmet, what would you be looking at?

    Thanks in advance for suggestions.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭Pugzilla


    Start by finding which helmet brands fit you best and work from there.

    You can check out their safety ratings on the SHARP website . Not a perfect test, but gives you an idea at least.
    https://sharp.dft.gov.uk/

    More expensive helmets tend to be lighter, more comfortable and have extra features.

    You can't go wrong with any of the major manufacturers like Shoei, Arai, AGV, Shark, HJC etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Pugzilla wrote:
    Start by finding which helmet brands fit you best and work from there.

    This, fit is by far the most important thing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    There's no replacement for a good fitting helmet. Go to some of the bike stores, and try on different helmets. Different brands suit different head shapes. You want a tight fit but not too tight. Most stores are helpful making sure you get the right fit.

    Don't think about the cost initially, think more about what goes inside it - you only have one brain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Any decent shop will fit you when buying a lid, for me the best bang for buck starting out are Shark lids. Very good price and performance and most of the lids look very well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,061 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Wonda-Boy wrote: »
    Any decent shop will fit you when buying a lid, for me the best bang for buck starting out are Shark lids. Very good price and performance and most of the lids look very well.

    It depends on the persons head. I've a Shark and it puts loads of pressure on my forehead, I did some searching and a lot of other people where making the same complaints. I'd an Arai before and never had an issue with that.

    So try on plenty of lids and when you get one that's comfortable leave it on for >20 min and see how it feels.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭Cian_ok


    As already mentioned fit is most important.

    I have an integrated sun visor in my helmet. I wasn't looking for one, but it was in the helmet that fitted me. I'm really glad it's there. Saying that, if you're planning track days - you can't use a helmet with an internal sun visor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,320 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    I usually budget about €220-€250 for one. Some spend €1k, some spend €80.

    Get one that fits well and is comfortable. I look for a flip up, internal visor, removable lining so I can wash. Pin lock is handy if you drive in rain, means its almost impossible for it to fog up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,856 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Cian_ok wrote: »
    Saying that, if you're planning track days - you can't use a helmet with an internal sun visor.

    My Shoei GT-Air has an ACU gold star, so that's incorrect.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭Cian_ok


    Re: having ask internal sun visor stops you doing track days.
    My Shoei GT-Air has an ACU gold star, so that's incorrect.

    I stand corrected. I was mis-informed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    Cian_ok wrote: »
    I stand corrected. I was mis-informed.

    This is a forum, conduct yourself appropriately and dispute this to the bitter end or I'll report you to the mods!


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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭Pugzilla


    Have had a Shoei GT-Air for 4 years, great helmet. Extremely comfortable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,856 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Pugzilla wrote: »
    Have had a Shoei GT-Air for 4 years, great helmet. Extremely comfortable.

    You're wrong, they're awful!

    (just because) :p

    Bought it in January and (I've been wearing Shoeis exclusively since 1997) it's the best lid I've ever owned. But if you don't have a Shoei-shaped head that's no consolation to you (I've tried both shapes of Arais and they just don't fit me.)

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭Cannon_fodder


    Have had 2 Shoei XR1000's, cannot fault them,


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Headed to this forum to ask a helmet question so I hope you don't mind Me hijacking your thread, OP.

    Was thinking of buying my husband a new helmet for his birthday. Know the size of his current Arai as was looking for upgrade suggestions. But now I've read this thread, I get the impression he should be trying it on 1st but I'd like to surprise him if possible.

    I've previously bought him a jacket and one Christmas I bought him everything for a full service (wasn't cheap) and he's just got a second bike so thought a helmet would be a good idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,056 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Headed to this forum to ask a helmet question so I hope you don't mind Me hijacking your thread, OP.

    Was thinking of buying my husband a new helmet for his birthday. Know the size of his current Arai as was looking for upgrade suggestions. But now I've read this thread, I get the impression he should be trying it on 1st but I'd like to surprise him if possible.

    I've previously bought him a jacket and one Christmas I bought him everything for a full service (wasn't cheap) and he's just got a second bike so thought a helmet would be a good idea.

    It's possible it could fit knowing the size but Arai if fitted please properly could have different sized pads to one off the shelf as some dealers will provide this service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭Cannon_fodder


    Headed to this forum to ask a helmet question so I hope you don't mind Me hijacking your thread, OP.

    Was thinking of buying my husband a new helmet for his birthday. Know the size of his current Arai as was looking for upgrade suggestions. But now I've read this thread, I get the impression he should be trying it on 1st but I'd like to surprise him if possible.

    I've previously bought him a jacket and one Christmas I bought him everything for a full service (wasn't cheap) and he's just got a second bike so thought a helmet would be a good idea.

    Helmets are a personal choice but if you know the Arai size then get a new version in that size in Arai provided he has no current issues with his Arai.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,809 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Pugzilla wrote: »
    Have had a Shoei GT-Air for 4 years, great helmet. Extremely comfortable.

    You're wrong, they're awful!

    (just because) :p

    Bought it in January and (I've been wearing Shoeis exclusively since 1997) it's the best lid I've ever owned. But if you don't have a Shoei-shaped head that's no consolation to you (I've tried both shapes of Arais and they just don't fit me.)

    ^^^^ this.
    I can't get into an Arai or Shoei at all, but can an AGV, Schuberth or Shark (currently on Shark #2). But the best fitting one ive ever had,and most comfortable I've ever had was also the cheapest....a Nitro. ACU Gold Star rated too. €125 locally.
    Fit is everything.

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thanks for the replys. I might just surprise him by taking him to the shop and then tell him to pick whatever he wants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Thanks for the replys. I might just surprise him by taking him to the shop and then tell him to pick whatever he wants.

    What about a gift voucher for the shop in question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,061 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    What about a gift voucher for the shop in question?

    Cash is the best gift voucher, never expires and not restricted to a single shop :D


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I see what yis are doing. No no no no no!

    Not a hope am I giving him the cash lol. He'll come back with a "project" that will keep him in the garage for the winter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    I see what yis are doing. No no no no no!

    Not a hope am I giving him the cash lol. He'll come back with a "project" that will keep him in the garage for the winter.

    Doesn't that suit you both?:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    Fit is the most important thing.
    After that weight (lighter the better especially if youre doing touring/motorway driving where wind really plays into it).
    For me then it needs to be quiet, followed by having an internal sunvisor.
    After that I'd be looking at good internal padding, preferably a double d-ring fastner, and able to accomodate my interphone bluetooth comms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭TheShow


    terrydel wrote: »
    Fit is the most important thing.
    After that weight (lighter the better especially if youre doing touring/motorway driving where wind really plays into it).
    For me then it needs to be quiet, followed by having an internal sunvisor.
    After that I'd be looking at good internal padding, preferably a double d-ring fastner, and able to accomodate my interphone bluetooth comms.

    does anyone wear specs? how does that factor in for the auld helmet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,902 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    You have to get a proscription visor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭TheShow


    You have to get a proscription visor

    sounds expensive


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭Pugzilla


    TheShow wrote: »
    does anyone wear specs? how does that factor in for the auld helmet?

    Nerds aren't allowed on motorbikes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,320 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    TheShow wrote: »
    does anyone wear specs? how does that factor in for the auld helmet?

    I never had a problem. But if I'm touring I wear contacts. Long periods wearing glasses for a few days in a row isn't great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭bladespin


    TheShow wrote:
    does anyone wear specs? how does that factor in for the auld helmet?


    Never had a problem, once the fit is right, tight enough to hold glasses in place, loose enough so they're not pinching.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,141 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I wear shades daily on the bike my shoei has no internal sun visor so have them on all the time with the visor up as I like the air.

    No problems whatsoever so glasses would be no different


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭TheShow


    Pugzilla wrote: »
    Nerds aren't allowed on motorbikes.

    D'oh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭gerrowadat


    You have to get a proscription visor

    Not sure if joking :-)

    Specs are grand on a bike, once you stick them on when trying out the fit and they don't press on your head too much.

    Only other thing to look after is fogging. There are a number of sprays and so on you can get for both visor and glasses, I have one called klar-pilot that I swear by, used it before I even rode bikes for other sweaty/steamy activities...

    Also, pinlock pinlock pinlock. Can't recommend it enough, most higher end lids come with it and it can be retrofitted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,902 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    definitely joking I wear glasses but mostly contact lenses on the bike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭stewygriffin


    galwaytt wrote: »
    ^^^^ this.
    I can't get into an Arai or Shoei at all, but can an AGV, Schuberth or Shark (currently on Shark #2). But the best fitting one ive ever had,and most comfortable I've ever had was also the cheapest....a Nitro. ACU Gold Star rated too. €125 locally.
    Fit is everything.

    Go up to Crossans and get custom fitted for an Arai. Amelia or Seany will see you right in Crossans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭stewygriffin


    I have a HJC RPHA10 Ben Spies helmet and also a carbon X-Lite 802r helmet.

    Hjc is a heavier helmet and its not too noisy.
    Problem is that HJC have stopped making visors for them now,so they will be hard to get from now on.

    The X-Lite is super light and aerodynamic,good when tucked down over the tank. But its noisy on the ears.

    Im a small in the HJC but im a medium in the X-Lite.

    I bought the X-lite online from a German store,i went with small but it was too tight.
    They took it back for me and sent me out a medium at no extra cost.

    If buying online,make sure the seller accepts returns and has a good review base too.


    Oh and Pinlock all the way.
    I hate those internal sunvisor helnets.
    Just a personal choice on my part.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,902 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    I don't think I'll go for a sun visor next time I never use it.

    my next helmet I want to get someone to fit me properly for it and to pad the top so my eye line is better when leant over.. not sure what bands you can do that with but I couldn't afford an 800 euro arai


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭Cian_ok


    definitely joking I wear glasses but mostly contact lenses on the bike

    LOL. Reminds me of a Billy Connolly sketch where he convinced his dad that prescription windshields were a thing.

    I wear glasses and in the winter they fogged up until I got a mouth guard:


    http://respro.com/store/product/foggy-mask


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