Werewolf XV(b) - Vanillerama

Tegan WW

Well my top one is Phil. Then I don't think Doris is evil. If my theory about Phil is right, then I don't think Angus is evil either. If he was two wolves hardly would've voted for him in order to save a different wolf.

Angus WW - I think they're grand
Steve WW - Voted for Brendan which gives slight marks over some of the others
Henry WW - No idea, voted for a known goodie in Conor. Wasn't known at the time though.
Jake WW - low poster and didn't vote - think he's grand
Liam WW - voted for me, a known goodie - wasn't known at the time
Doris WW - Voted for Fiona - claimed vig (not known at time)
Fiona WW - Claimed vig - vig isn't dead and no other claims so I'm assuming she's good
Phil WW - Voted for Angus - potentially to save Brendan + wanted us to peek Conor.

So my evil likelihood rankings
1. Phil
Henry
Liam
Steve
Doris
Angus
Jake
8. Fiona

Completely cleared people aren't on this list. Fiona should probably be in the completely cleared category though.

Henry WW

Speed reading complete

I want to question Fiona's vig claim but my chronology could be off rendering this question moot: have we had a player killed by the vig since the last nrv death? If not could Fiona be a wolf claiming vig, to no counter claim because our vig is dead already?

Moving on from that potentially moot point to things i have some grasp on

Conor WW wrote: »

Angus
Doris
Henry
Jake

C'mon. We need your input

You guys talk too much, spend all my time catching up :P

Liam WW wrote: »

I mean how does one catch up and still miss so much... speed reading maybe yes.

But surely if you were speed reading this thread you have spotted the small matter of

I mean that's going to catch your attention surely.

I believe Dorris was busy and got caught up in her backroom. Right I'm sleepy. Shoot Dorris and hang the other one

This point on Doris seems reasonable, though I have definitely missed things so can't just assume that's outright wolf behaviour.

Steve WW wrote: »

#FFA1

Liam - not knowing the rules, avoiding difficult questions until pestered, being helpful and villagery only when called out on not being.

Liam has posted fluff. Seeing as we're a small group it hasn't led to too much confusion, but that's a wolfy tactic to keep the post count up and avoid saying anything incriminating.

Fiona WW wrote: »

I think steve is good.

If my theory on fiona possibly not being the vig holds any water, this would make me inclined to suspect Steve

Phil WW

Ah here, I'm being set up to fall here. A bit like Eve, I could write everyone's lists and see I'm being put up either way. Lads, do me if you want. If I'm honest, I've been miserable since the game started and I got accused immediately cause I was "too excited" to play, which is the most BS reason ever, and a **** reason to start accusing people, in terms of...imagine how new players will feel if they come in and get called a wolf for being "excited". The wolves are all just going to vote for me anyway, so voting patterns won't be worth a damn, so if you want to shoot me, just put me out of my misery....even if I survive the shooting, ye will just lynch me anyway, so do whatever, and hopefully ye will learn something from my death....

Henry WW

Ahh, okay scratch the fiona thing. Mods announced gabby as seer, not just good/bad, so fiona is prob vig

Fiona WW

Henry I can kill you to prove it

Fiona WW

Phil, your not new so suck it up

Liam WW

Also that's a bs excuse by you Phil, I was hyper at the start and only tunenel vision Tony is up my hole

Fiona WW

Phil if you are good fight, its a while until lynch, convince us.

Liam WW

Doris WW wrote: »

Day 1. Reasons are thin on the ground. I'm goanna scan the thread again to see if I can see anything.

Doris WW wrote: »

I recall someone mentioned how its good that we have a lynch before a munch but I don't think it really matters tbh. I might vote for them.

Doris WW wrote: »

That was Brendan but I'm not convinced. I'm thinking Fiona. A few posts throughout the day and night so always here yet very little to the posts.

This has the Doris stuff I mentioned

Steve WW

Phil WW wrote: »

Ah here, I'm being set up to fall here. A bit like Eve, I could write everyone's lists and see I'm being put up either way. Lads, do me if you want. If I'm honest, I've been miserable since the game started and I got accused immediately cause I was "too excited" to play, which is the most BS reason ever, and a **** reason to start accusing people, in terms of...imagine how new players will feel if they come in and get called a wolf for being "excited". The wolves are all just going to vote for me anyway, so voting patterns won't be worth a damn, so if you want to shoot me, just put me out of my misery....even if I survive the shooting, ye will just lynch me anyway, so do whatever, and hopefully ye will learn something from my death....

I was accused of being a wolf for thanking posts, so go figure. It IS a game of werewolf however - it comes with the territory.

Phil WW

Liam WW wrote: »

Also that's a bs excuse by you Phil, I was hyper at the start and only tunenel vision Tony is up my hole

I never got an explanation as to why Derry immediately tagged me as a wolf. Just that I was a wolf because of the fluff I posted so quick (after about 7 posts when everyone was having fun banter and fluff). Admittedly, he also accused others. Then I got tagged again cause I said I was going out for a little while, which has taught me in the future not to try and explain my absences. Better to just not post for hours at a stretch apparently.

Fiona WW wrote: »

Phil if you are good fight, its a while until lynch, convince us.

I've said all I can say, really. I posted my thoughts on players yesterday, my thoughts on what I could see. So I really have nothing left to add. No one has really gone through my posts and gone "Why did you say this?", "why did you vote for them?", etc, which makes it harder to formulate actual rebuttals. It's all just "I feel he's bad".

Worth noting, although people think its suspicious, I am out again today for most of the afternoon, which is also part of my "if ye want to kill me, just do it now" line of thinking. I won't be on to do much else past 12:30, so if I'm going to be shot, at least do it now so I don't have it hanging over my head all day when I'm out...

Tegan WW

Well I said I was suspicious of you day one vote Phil, and also your comment about peeking Conor but letting Doris defend themselves. You didn't reply to either of those suspicions.

Henry WW

Went through Jakes posts

Because it wasn't time intensive as there's only 7 of them :P

Jake WW wrote: »

Account works.

Great. Post count 1, info 0

Jake WW wrote: »

Apologies all. Identified anyone yet?

Wolf looking for someone to focus on without saying anything
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Jake WW wrote: »

Jake voted

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Jake WW wrote: »

Not a whole pile, just reading through the pages. Just had a housemate move out irl

Fair enough, i get having irl stuff, happening to me too. But if you have the time to read through and explain yourself maybe as a helpful villager you'd throw in at least a question?

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Jake WW wrote: »

Not sure yet, early days

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Jake WW wrote: »

Ah this is BS I had some irl stuff that came up as mentioned. Also had issues with the lynchform. If I start posting properly now does it look suspicious or am I doomed regardless?

Time to be defensive but not to comment on/question anything

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Jake WW wrote: »

Twas after an argument not sorry to see him leave but it's stressful. Nearly as stressful as avoiding the munch

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Looking for sympathy vote, still not contributing

That's my read on Jake. Suspicious. I can't complain about someone being a low poster as i am too, but i can complain about them using their 7 posts for fluff, defense, excuses, and misdirection, and not posting a single question or observation

Henry WW

Phil WW wrote: »

No one has really gone through my posts and gone "Why did you say this?", "why did you vote for them?", etc, which makes it harder to formulate actual rebuttals. It's all just "I feel he's bad".

Well Phil do you think this was part of a bandwagoning attempt by say 2-4 particular players? Cos if not, its unlikely, and probably villagers questioning things that seem off.

Phil WW

Tegan WW wrote: »

Well I said I was suspicious of you day one vote Phil, and also your comment about peeking Conor but letting Doris defend themselves. You didn't reply to either of those suspicions.

I explained Angus before I voted; I was going out and optted to put my vote in for a lower poster, who either was not contributing to discussion, or was a wolf hiding amoung the bushes. I also said that before any discussion of Brendan really started. It wasn't trying to "save" anyone. On a blind vote, it was as good a reason as any to vote for someone.

As for Dorris, I explained that too (and Gabriel actually agreed at the time too); Dorris was the only one not to vote Eve. Standing out from the crowd when it was incredibly easy to blend in made me think that, of the list of suspects, she was least likely to be a wolf.

Connor was also being quite vocal at the time, and getting peaked before Gabriel died put Conor into a position to lead the village. Peaking Dorris, if she was good, would have added little (no offence to Dorris). Peaking Connor either got a wolf or got a vocal leader.

Angus WW

Hi everybody,

My post last night was me thinking aloud if I could continue with the game. Ive been so sick since the start of yesterday that its been a choir to play. I've been useless. I was considering quitting as I feel I havent taken part as I'd Like to. I did read back a bit last night but my brain csnt function to make heads or tails of it. I have no idea whos bad.

After some medicine this morning im feeling better and will at least see the game through as best I can.

Phil WW

And right on que....

Tegan WW

Phil WW wrote: »

As for Dorris, I explained that too (and Gabriel actually agreed at the time too); Dorris was the only one not to vote Eve. Standing out from the crowd when it was incredibly easy to blend in made me think that, of the list of suspects, she was least likely to be a wolf.

If you had said this at the time, before the peek went in I'd be more convinced. Rather than just let her defend herself.

Tegan WW

By the way, if I'm wrong about Phil I'd like to move Angus up my evil probability rankings to closer to the top. My reason for not suspecting him is that I think Phil is evil an two wolves wouldn't vote for another wolf so early on. But if Phil is fine then it's plausible for a single wolf to have voted for a fellow wolf.

Liam WW

Doris landed on Brendan for a reason and jumped off him onto Fiona for no reason. If that's not dodge I don't know what is the.

Phil WW

Phil WW wrote: »

And right on que....

actually, if you genuinely were sick, and you're not a wolf, then I feel bad for making that post. As soon as I hit click, I regretted it, and I do apologize. That was crass of me.

Steve WW

Phil WW wrote: »

I never got an explanation as to why Derry immediately tagged me as a wolf. Just that I was a wolf because of the fluff I posted so quick (after about 7 posts when everyone was having fun banter and fluff). Admittedly, he also accused others. Then I got tagged again cause I said I was going out for a little while, which has taught me in the future not to try and explain my absences. Better to just not post for hours at a stretch apparently.

Nah, that'll get you accused too - see below.

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Here's Steve talking about the aftermath of Brendan's lynching. They then disappear for over 2 hours before......



They seem to know a lot for being missing for a lengthy period of time.

This is not an accusation by the way, just putting this all out in the open for people to see.

I think anything can get you accused - thanking posts, seeing who's not yet posted, being too excited, being too quiet, etc. It's not so much the accusation as how you (as in anyone) reacts to them that is more telling.

Now, I'm off to do some research on some players.

Conor WW

I'm believing Phil a bit more that he is innocent. Henry isn't doing himself any favours now.

I say the wolves are completely distanced from each other now. Not quoting each other, not questioning the same target at all.

Henry, I'm looking at you.

Henry WW

Conor WW wrote: »

I'm believing Phil a bit more that he is innocent. Henry isn't doing himself any favours now.

I say the wolves are completely distanced from each other now. Not quoting each other, not questioning the same target at all.

Henry, I'm looking at you.

Pretty unspecific conor, anything in particulare you'd like me to address?

Fiona WW

2 wolves, one bullet.

I think I will use the bullet in.the next half hour before munch

So its a half hour to convince me which player gets it.

Conor and Tegan are the only ones I trust to guide me.

Fiona WW

Fiona WW wrote: »

2 wolves, one bullet.

I think I will use the bullet in.the next half hour before munch

So its a half hour to convince me which player gets it.

Conor and Tegan are the only ones I trust to guide me.

Before lynch not munch

Phil WW

Phil WW wrote: »

Worth noting, although people think its suspicious, I am out again today for most of the afternoon, which is also part of my "if ye want to kill me, just do it now" line of thinking. I won't be on to do much else past 12:30, so if I'm going to be shot, at least do it now so I don't have it hanging over my head all day when I'm out...

Ok, I know I nearly got hung yesterday for going out, but wanted to restate this part too, since I'm aware there's the cloud over my head right now. I'll have my phone but am going to be very sporadic till about 5 this evening. If there's any other questions or such, I'll try to give quick answers and fuller ones then, but please just at least give me one more round to hopefully prove myself

Liam WW

Shoot disappeared dorris

Fiona WW

For me Its between Henry phil liam or doris. I dont wanna discount angus steve or jake but I dunno, im feeling that they are unlikely.

Conor WW

Henry WW wrote: »

Went through Jakes posts

Because it wasn't time intensive as there's only 7 of them :P



Great. Post count 1, info 0



Wolf looking for someone to focus on without saying anything
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Fair enough, i get having irl stuff, happening to me too. But if you have the time to read through and explain yourself maybe as a helpful villager you'd throw in at least a question?

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Time to be defensive but not to comment on/question anything

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Looking for sympathy vote, still not contributing

That's my read on Jake. Suspicious. I can't complain about someone being a low poster as i am too, but i can complain about them using their 7 posts for fluff, defense, excuses, and misdirection, and not posting a single question or observation

This one Henry. There are 2 wolves left and you have chosen to accuse a poster with 7 posts. 7 posts that say nothing about whether they are good or bad. Easy target?

Who else you suspicious of?

Tegan WW

Phil also seemed to try and throw doubt out against a number of different people. I think a wolf might try and target an individual person to try and save themselves, like Henry might be doing with Jake.

Of course, Phil could've been throwing out reasons against most people and hoped that one of them stuck and then could jump on that train.

MrsFlushdraw

Guys. I have been in meetings all morning and have to go back out again. If there are any problems please PM me and I will sort. I will keep an eye on the lynch form etc.

Henry WW

Well I did explain why I looked into Jake:

"Went through Jakes posts

Because it wasn't time intensive as there's only 7 of them "

Was on my lunch break and I wanted to quantify the info available without taking too long

I'm suspicious of anyone who's not confirmed good atm.

Phil - Seems overly defensive and harping on about how he was targetted because he went out, while earlier on he was saying he was targetted but not about anything specifc
Doris - Disappeared, odd
Angus - Disappeared to, as with yesterday pops in when mentioned to defend himself, so that stinks to me seeing as he did it again today, Sure he might be sick and rl stuff affects how you play the game, but the sickness came conveniently to explain the popping in to defend himself
Steve - actually seems alright to me, but I can't discount him. His thanking early in the game was a bit suss, and I noticed yesterday he continued to thank posts that weren't necessarily saying much. Coudl just be habit, or having the jauntz, but I took it as either a) if he is a wolf, and we find out on his death, then we'd looked into someone not on his wolf team because he'd been thanking their posts, or b) genuinely supporting a team member
Liam - I haven't looked through his posts very well and i'm not remembering anything exaclty, but they've been fluffy, and as i mentioned earlier, very fluffy posts in such a small game bring nothing to the table but keep your post count up enough to not raise suspicion

If I were to prioritise these or FFA I'd probably go with Jake, Phil, Angus

Thems my thoughts

Fiona WW

Kill ordet going in, lets hope im right

Angus WW

Conor WW wrote: »

Angus
Doris
Henry
Jake

C'mon. We need your input

Reporting for duty.

I know I posted last night about catching up but I haven't fully caught up yet.

Does anyone have any questions for me in the meantime? Happy to answer any and all of them.

Liam WW

Derry spotted Brendan and wanted Phil next. Derry got killed. Why was Derry killed??

Fiona WW

Angus WW wrote: »

Reporting for duty.

I know I posted last night about catching up but I haven't fully caught up yet.

Does anyone have any questions for me in the meantime? Happy to answer any and all of them.

Ill wait until your caught up, very odd seeing you said you caught up but I think ive got a idea what you mean

Fiona WW

I hope im right with this kill guys....I hate having this power

Liam WW

Fiona WW wrote: »

I hope im right with this kill guys....I hate having this power

So your going to leave us in suspense as well? Booo

MrsFlushdraw

Again Chuck Norris was on the go, he had murder yet again on his mind. He still couldn't get past his love Mrs Smith dying with his unborn baby inside her. He needed to find out what happened. He needed revenge!

He had an idea who was one of the responsible crowd, so he crept in the back window, cocked the gun and..



Henry had been shot straight through the back of the head.

Henry was

a werewolf

Our vigilante is just a normal villager now. No more bullets!

Liam WW

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice one

Steve WW

Okay, have gone through the posts from the beginning of every unknown still left alive. I might just leave the analysis until after lunch at the moment.

Liam WW wrote: »

Also my theory of the wolves voting brendan is horse**** only 2 people committed to voting him on thread doubt they'd risk it, if they were going to risk a sacarfice surely at least 2 would have jumped on it. Phil pushes this theory above so I'm quite happy with him as bad.

But I just wanted to address this first, Liam if I could (I changed "Brendan" to "Phil" above as that's what you meant per the follow-on post you made). It sounds like it's touching on something important. I get that if wolves were voting for Brendan as a sacrifice they'd make more of a deal about it to earn villagery points, and that they'd be unlikely to do so (ie, make the sacrifice) in the first place as there hadn't seemed like too much of a swing to him as only two people had mentioned voting for him. But what do you mean by the last sentence about Phil, the theory and him being bad. I think you might be on to something but I just can't quite grasp it yet.

Fiona WW

Yes.....

After all the back and fourth, I went with my gut. Yes yes yes.

Fiona WW

We have 45 mins to lynch

Steve WW

Fiona WW wrote: »

Yes.....

After all the back and fourth, I went with my gut. Yes yes yes.

Well done Fi. 2 for 3!!!!

Steve WW

Fiona WW wrote: »

We have 45 mins to lynch

Do we? Is it not 4pm as before?

Fiona WW

I say vote Phil or Jake based on Henrys recent posts.

Leaning towards Phil

Fiona WW

Steve WW wrote: »

Do we? Is it not 4pm as before?

Yes thats it, my bad.

Liam WW

Steve WW wrote: »

Okay, have gone through the posts from the beginning of every unknown still left alive. I might just leave the analysis until after lunch at the moment.



But I just wanted to address this first, Liam if I could (I changed "Brendan" to "Phil" above as that's what you meant per the follow-on post you made). It sounds like it's touching on something important. I get that if wolves were voting for Brendan as a sacrifice they'd make more of a deal about it to earn villagery points, and that they'd be unlikely to do so (ie, make the sacrifice) in the first place as there hadn't seemed like too much of a swing to him as only two people had mentioned voting for him. But what do you mean by the last sentence about Phil, the theory and him being bad. I think you might be on to something but I just can't quite grasp it yet.

While I feel your post is very leading....

I said my theory was weak as Phil jumped on it last night when doing his analysis of the players. I wanted to see if he would mention it at all today. He just ignored all the posts I made last night.

Steve WW

Liam WW wrote: »

While I feel your post is very leading....

I said my theory was weak as Phil jumped on it last night when doing his analysis of the players. I wanted to see if he would mention it at all today. He just ignored all the posts I made last night.

Can you find where Phil jumped on it? And your conclusion is that because Phil jumped on it, it made him a wolf, is it?