Neymar Deal: The Clusterfúck

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Paully D wrote: »

L'Equipe reporting that he and Cavani had to be separated in the dressing room by Thiago Silva after the penalty incident.

Neymar has also unfollowed him on social media. :pac:

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Paully D

GavRedKing wrote: »

He'll get away with that kind of behaviour at PSG, wouldnt have gone down well at Barca.

Although penalties for Barca were shared around the last few years, all 3 of the MSN took, scored and missed penalties during matches.

Cavani has a €1m bonus in his contract for finishing top scorer, per L'Equipe. Might be the root cause of the problem.

irishman86

Paully D wrote: »

Cavani has a €1m bonus in his contract for finishing top scorer, per L'Equipe. Might be the root cause of the problem.

Also Neymar isnt a great at penalties so i dont know why he would think he deserves them
Cavani is the main scorer there by miles

~Rebel~

irishman86 wrote: »

Also Neymar isnt a great at penalties so i dont know why he would think he deserves them
Cavani is the main scorer there by miles

Taken 40, scored 32, missed 8. Not atrocious by any means, but an almost 1 in 4 miss rate isn't great. Though to be fair to him, his record last season was better, missed 1 in 6.

Cavani has only missed 2 in 22 since moving to France (cant find stats from his time at napoli), so would look like he should be the nailed on taker.

marklazarcovic

If that's over money it's disgusting

irishman86

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Taken 40, scored 32, missed 8. Not atrocious by any means, but an almost 1 in 4 miss rate isn't great. Though to be fair to him, his record last season was better, missed 1 in 6.

Cavani has only missed 2 in 22 since moving to France (cant find stats from his time at napoli), so would look like he should be the nailed on taker.

Thanks for getting the stats to add flavour to my statement
Did he take them at Napoli, would have presumed Hamsik was on them (probably presumed incorrectly) :pac:

Agent Coulson

Stories coming out of Brazil and France the last few days that Neymar is hating life in Paris and regrets moving.

I read something online last week that he is being linked with a move to Real Madrid. Passed it off as fake news, which it presumably is! It'd be funny enough though.

~Rebel~

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Stories coming out of Brazil and France the last few days that Neymar is hating life in Paris and regrets moving.

I'm also sure he's not thrilled to have his spotlight dimmed by Mbappe outplaying him in large parts, and Cavani very comfortably outscoring him.

Agent Coulson

It's the same Brazilian reporter who broke his move to PSG that is reporting he is unhappy now.

GLaDOS

Seems like a bit of a whiny bollox doesnt he.

major bill

GLaDOS wrote: »

Seems like a bit of a whiny bollox doesnt he.

Won't risk the Yellow card by saying what I really think of him but yea doesn't seem like a nice bloke at all!!

ricero

Neymar is the personification of all that is wrong with modern day football. Greed greed greed and a whopper egomaniac

Grid.

What's he crying about now???:rolleyes:

FCIM

All I can say is give me 1% of his salary for a job in Paris and I'd be able to give a very good example of how to be happy in one of the world's greatest cities.

NIMAN

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Stories coming out of Brazil and France the last few days that Neymar is hating life in Paris and regrets moving.

My heart bleeds for him.:rolleyes:

But it would be funny to see him end up at the Bernabeu....the new Figo!

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NIMAN wrote: »

My heart bleeds for him.:rolleyes:

But it would be funny to see him end up at the Bernabeu....the new Figo!

Imagine the tantrum Ronaldo would throw!

Tylerdurex

A good hidden is what Neymar needs

Billy86

Tylerdurex wrote: »

A good hidden is what Neymar needs

Yes but where?

irishman86

MrMac84 wrote: »

Imagine the tantrum Ronaldo would throw!

Why would he throw a tantrum, Bale and Benzema are as good as Neymar

Quazzie

irishman86 wrote: »

Why would he throw a tantrum, Bale and Benzema are as good as Neymar

But not as good as Pogba right? :rolleyes:

irishman86

Quazzie wrote: »

But not as good as Pogba right? :rolleyes:

What age exactly are you, because you come across very childish
Like you literally have added nothing to do this conversation and you post that regularly in reply to something ive said
Do you not realise how childish that is

Quazzie

irishman86 wrote: »

What age exactly are you, because you come across very childish
Like you literally have added nothing to do this conversation and you post that regularly in reply to something ive said
Do you not realise how childish that is

You claimed Benzema is as good as Neymar. And you think that insanity added to the conversation. :rolleyes:

NIMAN

Madrid missed out on Mbappe, who is likely to be a major star of the future. They'd be gutted so I'm thinking they need a new big name for the future.

Neymar fits the bill perfectly, depending on whether he has any loyalty or feelings towards Barca. But I severely doubt that.

With Bale likely to leave in the summer, and Benzema becoming stale after many years there, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Neymar at the Bernabeu if he does move from Paris.

GreNoLi

He should just go back to santos, pay his own way.

irishman86

Quazzie wrote: »

You claimed Benzema is as good as Neymar. And you think that insanity added to the conversation. :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: thats all you deserve buddy, definition of not having a clue

eagle eye

irishman86 wrote:

thats all you deserve buddy, definition of not having a clue

So you were only joking with him when you said that Benzema is as good as Neymar, right?

irishman86

eagle eye wrote: »

So you were only joking with him when you said that Benzema is as good as Neymar, right?

I honestly feel hes one of the most underrated players in the world, put him in any other team outside of Barcelona and hes the star. So no i clearly wasnt joking
Look at there goals for example in the last two seasons Benzema shades it not Neymar

Benzema as good as Neymar?

No he's not.

Mad suggestion.

irishman86

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Benzema as good as Neymar?

No he's not.

Mad suggestion.

Yes he is
Mad to suggest hes not
See a pointless comment with no facts or anything followed by my comment with nothing to back it up
This was fun :pac:

SM01

Neymar >>>>>>>>> Benzema

By a country mile.

Paully D

11 goals and 9 assists in 12 games this season all the same. :eek:

irishman86

SM01 wrote: »

Neymar >>>>>>>>> Benzema

By a country mile.

Based on what, nothing oh ok

Paully D wrote: »

11 goals and 9 assists in 12 games this season all the same. :eek:

Hes taken to Ligue 1 very well
A league Benzema dominated at 19, people forget the work he puts in at Madrid and still gets goals

SM01

Based on watching the game with my eyes. I know right well the importance of stats and the right kind of stats too in analysing performance and effectiveness but actually watching the individual players/teams informs opinion too, y'know.

NIMAN

Watching Madrid lack cutting edge in the Madrid derby last night, they need to find a new prolific goalscorer to replace the aging Ronnie......Neymar would fit the bill perfectly.

Plus it would rub Barca's noses in it.

irishman86

SM01 wrote: »

Based on watching the game with my eyes. I know right well the importance of stats and the right kind of stats too in analysing performance and effectiveness but actually watching the individual players/teams informs opinion too, y'know.

So you are basing it on your own personal view of football not on anything else
Everything you say i can also say about Benzema and i feel you are wrong and your comment really did nothing to change that view as it was basically ive watched them play and i think Neymar is better with nothing else buddy

irishman86

irishman86 wrote: »

So you are basing it on your own personal view of football not on anything else
Everything you say i can also say about Benzema and i feel you are wrong and your comment really did nothing to change that view as it was basically ive watched them play and i think Neymar is better with nothing else buddy

What about Ballon D'or and Fifa World Player of the Year finishing positions? Neymar is consistently well ahead of Benzema who sometimes isn't even nominated.

I guess you're still correct though...

SM01

irishman86 wrote: »

SM01 wrote: »

Based on watching the game with my eyes. I know right well the importance of stats and the right kind of stats too in analysing performance and effectiveness but actually watching the individual players/teams informs opinion too, y'know.

So you are basing it on your own personal view of football not on anything else
Everything you say i can also say about Benzema and i feel you are wrong and your comment really did nothing to change that view as it was basically ive watched them play and i think Neymar is better with nothing else buddy

Yes. As are you, unless I've missed it earlier in the thread. So deadlock, to a degree... But I don't see many sharing your view either, which in itself is telling.

And 'buddy?' Really, is that necessary?

irishman86

SM01 wrote: »

Yes. As are you, unless I've missed it earlier in the thread. So deadlock, to a degree... But I don't see many sharing your view either, which in itself is telling.

And 'buddy?' Really, is that necessary?

Well many not sharing my view doesnt really mean anything, sheep to the flock and all that, Neymar being the more marketable player will have some basing it purely on that "not that i'm saying this is the case but its a weak argument for your point"
I agree its just my pov, you missed nothing
I use buddy regularly its not meant as anything, apologies if you felt it did

SM01

Neymar is a far more marketable prospect, no argument there. Traditional, new and social media can create a buzz elevates a player beyond their 'on the pitch' value, which I'm guessing you believe is the case with Neymar, while Benzema passes under the radar somewhat.

My personal opinion is that Neymar is the real deal and is trailing only the colossi that are Messi and Ronaldo. But, yes, I'm not offering any stats to back that up.

irishman86

SM01 wrote: »

Neymar is a far more marketable prospect, no argument there. Traditional, new and social media can create a buzz elevates a player beyond their 'on the pitch' value, which I'm guessing you believe is the case with Neymar, while Benzema passes under the radar somewhat.

My personal opinion is that Neymar is the real deal and is trailing only the colossi that are Messi and Ronaldo. But, yes, I'm not offering any stats to back that up.

I respect your opinion and disagree with it
I personally dont have him top five

Trigger

irishman86 wrote: »

I respect your opinion and disagree with it
I personally dont have him top five

Who are your top 5?

irishman86

astradave wrote: »

Who are your top 5?

Hazard, Modric & Ramos
I would have said Suarez a few seasons ago but his form was patchy last season and hasnt took off yet in this one
The thing Neymar has over them is age and marketability
Put it this way i dont think Neymar is as good as any of the previous Brazilian Balon D'or winners but has the potential to be well besides Ronaldo

NIMAN

irishman86 wrote: »

Hazard, Modric & Ramos
I would have said Suarez a few seasons ago but his form was patchy last season and hasnt took off yet in this one
The thing Neymar has over them is age and marketability
Put it this way i dont think Neymar is as good as any of the previous Brazilian Balon D'or winners but has the potential to be well besides Ronaldo

You don't count Suarez as his form is patchy, yet list Hazard, who has been playing way below his own level for a year now?

Hazard on recent form isn't in the Top 10.

irishman86

NIMAN wrote: »

You don't count Suarez as his form is patchy, yet list Hazard, who has been playing way below his own level for a year now?

Hazard on recent form isn't in the Top 10.

i dont discount him at all, it was touch and go for me to say him
Hazard played well last season, you are underselling his form or else weve been watching football from a totally different pov

eagle eye

RoboKlopp wrote:

What about Ballon D'or and Fifa World Player of the Year finishing positions? Neymar is consistently well ahead of Benzema who sometimes isn't even nominated.

Looks like you are being ignored.

irishman86 wrote:

i dont discount him at all, it was touch and go for me to say him Hazard played well last season, you are underselling his form or else weve been watching football from a totally different pov

Yeah you are watching different football to everybody else.
I think most would agree that your opinion and thoughts on football are awful.

irishman86

eagle eye wrote: »

Looks like you are being ignored.


Yeah you are watching different football to everybody else.
I think most would agree that your opinion and thoughts on football are awful.

Atta boy :rolleyes:
I consider you part of a select group of posters who havent a clue buddy, so take that as you may