Refugee Quota Poll

rgossip30

Just vote any comments are old news .zzzzzzz

Edit Again for Mod Note: The poll has been changed at the request of the OP, please be aware that any votes cast before the changes are now applied to whatever the new option is; this is unavoidable. You can probably change them yourselves if you want.

Samaris

Why are we not actually solving the housing crisis rather than using it as an excuse for refugee policies?

rgossip30

...Atari Jaguar

Samaris wrote: »

Why are we not actually solving the housing crisis rather than using it as an excuse for refugee policies?

Migrants who come from the EU do have the money to buy houses so most are renting . There is a shortage of houses to rent as a result .

Samaris

I...do not get your poll options. What happened to the simple various numbers options + Atari Jaguar? We should take...income tax number of refugees?

Also, what do European migrants have to do with accepting refugees who are not generally originally from the EU. X is causing an issue, how much should we punish Y to make up for it?

rgossip30

...Atari Jaguar

Samaris wrote: »

I...do not get your poll options. What happened to the simple various numbers options + Atari Jaguar? We should take...income tax number of refugees?

Also, what do European migrants have to do with accepting refugees who are not generally originally from the EU. X is causing an issue, how much should we punish Y to make up for it?

I need to edit this but no option

dotsman

rgossip30 wrote: »

Migrants who come from the EU do have the money to buy houses so most are renting . There is a shortage of houses to rent as a result .

Migrants from the EU are NOT refugees.

And neither are they the source of the housing crisis. The housing crisis has been going on for decades (before we had an influx of immigrants). It's just that some people (like yourself) have only seem to notice it now, and then blame foreigners - it really says a lot about where this thread will go.

FraR

More than 4,000

Zero. Refugees aim to flee a particular country, not travel through numerous safe countries to get to a European country with generous welfare.

HeidiHeidi

Most confusing (and confused?) question and poll, ever!

OP, maybe outline your thinking on your question and we might get a hint as to what you're actually asking?

FraR

More than 4,000

dotsman wrote: »

Migrants from the EU are NOT refugees.

And neither are they the source of the housing crisis. The housing crisis has been going on for decades (before we had an influx of immigrants). It's just that some people (like yourself) have only seem to notice it now, and then blame foreigners - it really says a lot about where this thread will go.

So the fact that 700k plus foreigners moved to Ireland over a fifteen year period had no affect on the housing crisis?

Good one.

rgossip30

...Atari Jaguar

dotsman wrote: »

Migrants from the EU are NOT refugees.

And neither are they the source of the housing crisis. The housing crisis has been going on for decades (before we had an influx of immigrants). It's just that some people (like yourself) have only seem to notice it now, and then blame foreigners - it really says a lot about where this thread will go.

I never said EU migrants were refugees . I asked a simple question and it seems like I am on the chopping block . You have the solution which is to relax immigration rules and allow more regardless I take it .

rgossip30

...Atari Jaguar

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Most confusing (and confused?) question and poll, ever!

OP, maybe outline your thinking on your question and we might get a hint as to what you're actually asking?

This is the first time I tried to do a poll and cannot edit it !!! I would delete the whole lot but cannot .

Wheeliebin30

dotsman wrote: »

Migrants from the EU are NOT refugees.

And neither are they the source of the housing crisis. The housing crisis has been going on for decades (before we had an influx of immigrants). It's just that some people (like yourself) have only seem to notice it now, and then blame foreigners - it really says a lot about where this thread will go.

Huh?

5 years ago we had too many houses.

There was houses for rent everywhere.

Fast forward the economy back on track with an increase in population and here we are.

Widdershins

rgossip30 wrote: »

This is the first time I tried to do a poll and cannot edit it !!! I would delete the whole lot but cannot .

Could you make a new one and the mods might delete this?

Yamanoto

More than 4,000

D) 1983 Ford Cortina

CeilingFly

FraR wrote: »

So the fact that 700k plus foreigners moved to Ireland over a fifteen year period had no affect on the housing crisis?

Good one.

And 1.3 MILLION Irish born people live in other countries.

tomwaterford

IlikeOP wrote: »

We breed like fcuking rabbits!

Tbf rabbits are cute

rgossip30

...Atari Jaguar

CeilingFly wrote: »

And 1.3 MILLION Irish born people live in other countries.

More Irish born should emigrate to make room .

Autochange

zero

conorhal

Samaris wrote: »

Why are we not actually solving the housing crisis rather than using it as an excuse for refugee policies?

We've accepted tens of thousands of asylum seekers from Nigeria and Pakistan which I don't understand, if they were told to go home in the morning you'd solve the crisis in 24 hours by freeing up tens of thousands of houses. You can't keep housing an unending flow of migrants and not expect it to have an impact on the housing market, it's inorganic growth that's a destabilizing factor.

conorhal

CeilingFly wrote: »

And 1.3 MILLION Irish born people live in other countries.

So what's your point? Most of them are in the UK, US, Canada and Oz where they have applied for visas. How that translates to owing half of Nigeria a gaff I'm unsure, perhaps you can explain it to me?

riffmongous

rgossip30 wrote: »

This is the first time I tried to do a poll and cannot edit it !!! I would delete the whole lot but cannot .

Report your post and ask a mod to fix it for you in the message

rgossip30

...Atari Jaguar

riffmongous wrote: »

Report your post and ask a mod to fix it for you in the message

Done

riffmongous

rgossip30 wrote: »

Done

Now we play the waiting game

HeidiHeidi

conorhal wrote: »

We've accepted tens of thousands of asylum seekers from Nigeria and Pakistan which I don't understand, if they were told to go home in the morning you'd solve the crisis in 24 hours by freeing up tens of thousands of houses. You can't keep housing an unending flow of migrants and not expect it to have an impact on the housing market, it's inorganic growth that's a destabilizing factor.

Tens of thousands? Really? Can you provide a source for that? I tried googling it but couldn't find any statistics relating to country of origin, or the numbers which I frankly just don't believe. Maybe I'm wrong though.

How many of those whom we've accepted are now working and contributing to the economy? Could we do without their contributions which will be propping up our public expenditure?

How many of those two particular nationalities you've singled out came in other than through the asylum system do you know?

It's not just about physical houses.

CeilingFly

conorhal wrote: »

So what's your point? Most of them are in the UK, US, Canada and Oz where they have applied for visas. How that translates to owing half of Nigeria a gaff I'm unsure, perhaps you can explain it to me?

Because there's a certain amount of uneducated scum who are inherently racist and stupid.

They don't understand that emigration works two ways.

There are Irish people in almost every country in the world, yet the racist scum that thankfully are in the minority here, have an issue.

Funny the same scum probably have family living in other countries - that's how stupid they are

conorhal

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Tens of thousands? Really? Can you provide a source for that? I tried googling it but couldn't find any statistics relating to country of origin, or the numbers which I frankly just don't believe. Maybe I'm wrong though.

How many of those whom we've accepted are now working and contributing to the economy? Could we do without their contributions which will be propping up our public expenditure?

How many of those two particular nationalities you've singled out came in other than through the asylum system do you know?

It's not just about physical houses.

Google, it's not hard. It tells me that there are over 17,000 Nigerians in Ireland despite handing out visas in the hundreds and they have a 40% unemployment rate. No very productive migrants.

Pure tashte

None

FraR wrote: »

Zero. Refugees aim to flee a particular country, not travel through numerous safe countries to get to a European country with generous welfare.

Do the refugees themselves actually get to decide? I thought it was an EU initiative, they can't keep them all in refugee camps in Greece, so the rest of the EU countries (except Hungary and a few other central European ones) decided to take in a certain amount? I don't think it's a case of migrants from the Middle East and Northern Africa thinking "Let's go to Ireland to get the dole".

As long as they are properly vetted, I think it's a good thing that Ireland is taking in 5000 refugees. A lot of young families with young children have been brought in as is, and it's not as if it's a big enough number to cause huge social or economic problems. There seems to be efforts to integrate them started, like the bus that brought the refugees from Ballaghadereen to the Mayo Roscommon match in Croke Park last weekend.

conorhal

CeilingFly wrote: »

Because there's a certain amount of uneducated scum who are inherently racist and stupid.

They don't understand that emigration works two ways.

There are Irish people in almost every country in the world, yet the racist scum that thankfully are in the minority here, have an issue.

Funny the same scum probably have family living in other countries - that's how stupid they are

The only people that don't seem to understand how immigration works seem to be those that can't quite grasp what a visa application is for.

rgossip30

...Atari Jaguar

riffmongous wrote: »

Now we play the waiting game

I wonder can you block comments and just have a poll only .

Samaris

Seems like people really don't get the difference between "migrants" (as a phrase relating to people moving from one country or politically controlled zone to another) and "refugees" (as in relating to people fleeing from threatening circumstances in their home country), but be that as it may, if people haven't gotten the difference over the past ten years, they probably won't now.


Mod: OP, PM me what options you want, I think I can edit the poll for you. But without direction, my instinct is to change all the options to Atari Jaguar :P

Atoms for Peace

The poll makes no sense......no Atari jaguar option?