The Totally Football Podcasts

Pidae.m

Every time I here paddy power on the pod a little bit of me dies inside.

Arghus

James did say "you can listen to the exact moment that we sell our soul."

Beersmith

https://twitter.com/jonawils/status/937773147880853505

Didn't peg Jonathan Wilson to be a bad winner

Ol' Donie

Why are they so bitter about it? Why is tgere so much bitterness about them effectively changing jobs? Is that a crime?

Especially since it's not just Jimbo. Producer Ben, McIntosh, Rafa Honegstein, James Horncastle and i think a couple more all moved. It's just odd. If they didn't like these lads, why the bitterness?

riemann

Haven't listened today yet but this Pod takes itself far too seriously.

Not sure how much longer I can continue to listen, especially since they now feature betting adverts.

Re the Wilson tweet, they're clearly not meant to be taken seriously.

Cienciano

I think that's a joke from Jonathan Wilson tbh

Beersmith

Cienciano wrote: »

I think that's a joke from Jonathan Wilson tbh

Is it though? Jonathan isn't on the totally show at all is he?

Utopia Parkway

Beersmith wrote: »

Is it though? Jonathan isn't on the totally show at all is he?

Nobody employed by The Guardian is on it but lads like Honigstein and Horncastle are freelance so can turn up wherever they want.

wnolan1992

I honestly can't tell anymore whether there's genuine ill-feeling there or whether it's all just put on "banter". Paul Mcinnes on Thursday's FW mentioned he was going for lunch with Jimbo, and Barry's faux outrage seemed to be just that, but Max seemed genuinely uneasy and sort of just let it hang there. It's also been alluded to on FW that The Guardian lads felt James and Ben got a bit big for their britches and over-estimated their importance. But again, it's really difficult to tell whether it's just friendly jibes or actual malice.

To be honest I wish both pods would just move on and stop making an issue of it every time it comes up.


Also, Mod: I changed the thread title. We'll use this thread for discussion of all the Totally Football pods (main show, Football League and the upcoming Italian football show and whichever others crop up.

Royale with Cheese

Take James Richardson out of TFS and I'd probably stop listening to it. The balance between good discussion and light entertainment is slightly off now, and I usually listen to it in the car so skipping the Paddy power sections isn't easy. I used to like Honigstein but I dunno, I'm finding him a bit arrogant these days. He's turned into the German Balague. I was watching the goals show on BT when Sevilla pulled one back to make it 3-1 against Liverpool and he just adamantly declared with complete authority that it was just a consolation goal and there was no way back for them. Was delighted when he ended up looking an idiot there. The rest of the pundits are all very knowledgeable but just not a huge amount of fun to listen to.

Max Rushden is no James Richardson but I don't hate him like some out there do. Barry has his moments and while not exactly a football guru I think you kind of miss him on TFS. The fact he does the Italian football update is a bit disingenuous now though, as he'd just moan about that section in previous years.

I think the old FW was a perfect mix of both and better than either of the current offerings.

Cienciano

Did anyone else get a lotto ad at the start of the podcast, or was it just my player or the hosting company or something?

Dots1982

Couldn’t care less about the gambling promos, they are at the end so just stop listening.

Think Totally is better than the guardian FW. Far better contributors and a good focus on certain topics each week, like Belgian footballers recently was a very interesting insight. No fraud like Glendennig involved is also a big relief.

brick tamland

I was listening to both but I've gone off TFS. He seems to get a lot of stick but I like Max Rushden, just seems like a genuinly nice bloke. FW have more lads I enjoy listening too (Wilson, Barney Ronay, Glendenning, Auclair, Sid, that scandavian lad with the irish accent) although it is missing Rafa at times I think.

The only thing Jimbo is missed for is the opening puns in my opinion.

Salvation Tambourine

brick tamland wrote: »

I was listening to both but I've gone off TFS. He seems to get a lot of stick but I like Max Rushden, just seems like a genuinly nice bloke. FW have more lads I enjoy listening too (Wilson, Barney Ronay, Glendenning, Auclair, Sid, that scandavian lad with the irish accent) although it is missing Rafa at times I think.

The only thing Jimbo is missed for is the opening puns in my opinion.

Those are some good lads you mentioned but I don't think I've disliked a contributor more than i disliked Daniel Harris the other week. And looking "below the line" and from Jonathan Wilson's comment this week I don't think I'm alone.

I prefer Totally still, I'd put it on before Football Weekly but after Second Captains on a Monday.

Arghus

Nokotan wrote: »

Those are some good lads you mentioned but I don't think I've disliked a contributor more than i disliked Daniel Harris the other week. And looking "below the line" and from Jonathan Wilson's comment this week I don't think I'm alone.

I prefer Totally still, I'd put it on before Football Weekly but after Second Captains on a Monday.

"Below the line"?

Salvation Tambourine

Arghus wrote: »

"Below the line"?

The comments section on the Guardian page is called that by the panel.

brick tamland

Nokotan wrote: »

Those are some good lads you mentioned but I don't think I've disliked a contributor more than i disliked Daniel Harris the other week. And looking "below the line" and from Jonathan Wilson's comment this week I don't think I'm alone.

I prefer Totally still, I'd put it on before Football Weekly but after Second Captains on a Monday.

I know him from Twitter as a fellow utd supporter. Missed last week's one but he's turned up the odd time before and I've never liked him.

Salvation Tambourine

brick tamland wrote: »

I know him from Twitter as a fellow utd supporter. Missed last week's one but he's turned up the odd time before and I've never liked him.

He said he doesn't like footballers wearing gloves because he wants them to suffer. He was disappointed United were playing Moscow in October instead of December because he wants them to be freezing and again, suffer.

He sounded like an absolute kill-joy.

Arghus

Nokotan wrote: »

He said he doesn't like footballers wearing gloves because he wants them to suffer. He was disappointed United were playing Moscow in October instead of December because he wants them to be freezing and again, suffer.

He sounded like an absolute kill-joy.

To me that reads like very dry humour. I laughed anyway.

dfx-

Much prefer Rushden as a presenter than Richardson. Having given both some time now, TFS is a lot harder to stick through. There's definitely an element of the same old tired voices on repeat, Auclair, Honigstein, Horncastle, Richardson.

Like Priya Ramesh, Elis James on FW, some refreshing stuff from them.

Think I might drop TFS and give their football league one a go.

Dante

I find Richardson painfully awkward at times which can be difficult to listen to. Also agree with the poster above in that its getting a bit tiresome hearing the same voices every pod. Still tune in regularly but have found myself listening more to FW recently.

Real Psycrow

Nokotan wrote: »

Those are some good lads you mentioned but I don't think I've disliked a contributor more than i disliked Daniel Harris the other week. And looking "below the line" and from Jonathan Wilson's comment this week I don't think I'm alone.

I prefer Totally still, I'd put it on before Football Weekly but after Second Captains on a Monday.

Sorry, I must have missed that. What did JW say?

Salvation Tambourine

Real Psycrow wrote: »

Sorry, I must have missed that. What did JW say?

I can't remember what he said but it I'm pretty sure he referenced a Man United fan on a different podcast he's on.

wnolan1992

What are people's opinions on the new Golazzo podcast?

Have to say I'm rather disappointed in it. I thought it'd be more focused on the current league. They sort of billed it as something for people who "didn't tune out during their Italian round ups" on the main pod, but that's not what it is.

I'm not going to say it's a bad show, it's just not for me I don't think. I've no memories of Italian football so a nostalgia show really only has so much appeal to me.

Ol' Donie

wnolan1992 wrote: »

What are people's opinions on the new Golazzo podcast?

Have to say I'm rather disappointed in it. I thought it'd be more focused on the current league. They sort of billed it as something for people who "didn't tune out during their Italian round ups" on the main pod, but that's not what it is.

I'm not going to say it's a bad show, it's just not for me I don't think. I've no memories of Italian football so a nostalgia show really only has so much appeal to me.

Love it.

Deadly mix of nostalgia and news (although a little light on news yesterday).

Much better listening than any amount of b*llocking on about VAR or the increasingly common just-bitch-about-everything style of contributor that's becoming more and more common.

Cienciano

Golazzo is great, I like listening to the 90's stuff. I'm finding myself deleting the normal Totally Football show though, it's lacking something. Gone back to the guardian, but even that I delete sometimes. If only they could combine the 2 :pac:

Salvation Tambourine

Cienciano wrote: »

Golazzo is great, I like listening to the 90's stuff. I'm finding myself deleting the normal Totally Football show though, it's lacking something. Gone back to the guardian, but even that I delete sometimes. If only they could combine the 2 :pac:

The two are incredibly similar really in format, they talk about the same issues and matches but just different contributors.

I'm not a massive fan of The Game, it's a last resort but they have a weekly debate where they sometimes discuss something not particularly relevant to the weekend's action. Again, I can give or take the Football Ramble but they've got their little quiz in it.

I usually listen to both but if I missed one I wouldn't be too fussed about it.

I do like when David Preece is on Totally, he tends to have some different insights to issues, obviously particularly around goalkeeping.

Cienciano

The problem about too many football podcasts is you're listening to too many podcasts talking about the same games. I already listen to second captains, ideally I'd like just one more. Golazzo is different, I followed serie a for years, back in jimbos day so that suits me nicely.

wnolan1992

The Totally Football League show is more my cup of tea than Golazzo. I'm finding myself preferring TFLS to the regular show these days. I'd agree with some of what's said above, I find TFS lacking... something. I don't really know what, I think it might just be the selection of contributors. I still enjoy it, but more and more I'm preferring Football Weekly.

Football Weekly have, IMO, brought in some new contributors this season who have really freshened it up. The guy from Norway with the Irish accent, Priah Ramesh and a few others are fun to listen to.

Ol' Donie

wnolan1992 wrote: »

The guy from Norway with the Irish accent, Priah Ramesh and a few others are fun to listen to.

Yeah, those two are very good. And the funny Welsh fella.

Aidric

I initially though the loss of James Richardson would be a hammer blow to Football Weekly but after an indifferent start I've quite warmed to Rushden. He threads the line between on topic and off topic with just enough measurement, sometimes swaying either side but not consistently enough to be annoying.

They have also rotated their guests well allowing fresh voices on a regular basis. Even Glendenning doesn't grate as much as he used to. He knows his place and works well as a counterweight to the more technical analysts.

By contrast the totally football show is drowning in its own backslapping rotation of the same tired contributors. James Horncastle seems a decent bloke but Cox and in particular Laurens I can't bear. Add in the cringe worthy sponsorship slot from PP and I've found recently that more often than not I don't bother downloading it.

sheroman01

I was in the camp of "the more football podcasts, the better". I still am. However, it's interesting that I also share the same views as you guys in that I'm preferring FW instead of TFS lately. Mainly because it's funnier! They go off topic and discuss random things that they shouldn't, but it makes for funny listening I must say. Agree also with the guests on FW getting better, really like Norwegian/Irish guy (Lars). I'm even really liking Max now too! Two things that do really annoy me though - one being Glendenning, of course. I didn't realize I hated him. But once that realization hits you, every word he mutters gets on your nerves. The second being their overly repetitive ongoing jokes - i.e. asking Lars what he had for breakfast every.single.episode, and this "snodgrass vortex". But overall, really enjoying it!

TFS is still good too. Jimbo is there so always worth listening for him. If Laurens was English, he'd be the most obnoxious person ever. But, because of his French accent, his rants and 'banter' are kinda funny. I wasn't a huge fan of Pat Nevin, having listened to him on Newstalk, but he was great on the show last week. One of the best episodes I thought - any maybe that's because they started having a bit of craic for most of the show!

Anyway, I'll certainly continue listening to both of these podcasts, alongside Second Captains and The GAA Hour. I'm grateful for all of them in their own ways, as it makes the commute to work a lot more bearable

wnolan1992

sheroman01 wrote: »

I was in the camp of "the more football podcasts, the better". I still am. However, it's interesting that I also share the same views as you guys in that I'm preferring FW instead of TFS lately. Mainly because it's funnier! They go off topic and discuss random things that they shouldn't, but it makes for funny listening I must say. Agree also with the guests on FW getting better, really like Norwegian/Irish guy (Lars). I'm even really liking Max now too! Two things that do really annoy me though - one being Glendenning, of course. I didn't realize I hated him. But once that realization hits you, every word he mutters gets on your nerves. The second being their overly repetitive ongoing jokes - i.e. asking Lars what he had for breakfast every.single.episode, and this "snodgrass vortex". But overall, really enjoying it!

TFS is still good too. Jimbo is there so always worth listening for him. If Laurens was English, he'd be the most obnoxious person ever. But, because of his French accent, his rants and 'banter' are kinda funny. I wasn't a huge fan of Pat Nevin, having listened to him on Newstalk, but he was great on the show last week. One of the best episodes I thought - any maybe that's because they started having a bit of craic for most of the show!

Anyway, I'll certainly continue listening to both of these podcasts, alongside Second Captains and The GAA Hour. I'm grateful for all of them in their own ways, as it makes the commute to work a lot more bearable

For me, TFS seems to have forgotten that, IMO, a large part of what made FW successful under Richardson was that it married football analysis with (and I hate to use this word but it's a neat summation) "banter".

I'd agree with you that FW's running jokes are irritating, but the fact that you can still be guaranteed to have the analysis broken up by a few laughs or random anecdotes makes it a more attractive show, IMO.

I'm still enjoying TFS, but it's definitely in second place for me now behind FW, and that's not something I expected to happen.

And as said before, Totally Football League Show is great, probably my favourite of the three.

Arghus

David Preece, one of the contributors to TTFS, has recently started his own separate podcast, The No.1 Podcast. He's a former goalkeeper and the pod focuses on goalkeeping in particular. So far there's only been three episodes but I'm finding them very interesting.

We all have a certain amount interest in goalkeeping - usually after something calamitous has befallen our team - but it's arguably the least properly analysed or understood position on the football field, so it's very refreshing to hear about the weekends goals from a goalkeeping perspective.

sheroman01

Arghus wrote: »

David Preece, one of the contributors to TTFS, has recently started his own separate podcast, The No.1 Podcast. He's a former goalkeeper and the pod focuses on goalkeeping in particular. So far there's only been three episodes but I'm finding them very interesting.

We all have a certain amount interest in goalkeeping - usually after something calamitous has befallen our team - but it's arguably the least properly analysed or understood position on the football field, so it's very refreshing to hear about the weekends goals from a goalkeeping perspective.

Nice, I'll listen to this for sure. Very appealing to me as a keeper. What I have found with Preece is that he's extremely kind to keepers. I know "keepers union" and all that, but I just feel he gives the benefit of the doubt too often. Still, always good to have an actual keeper commenting, rather than outfielders providing critical analysis (yes I'm looking at you Gary Neville).

sheroman01

Anyone go to the live show last night in Vicar Street? Jimbo, Horncastle, Julien and Pat Nevin the guests. Thought it was a really good show, very funny! They gave Pat Nevin an awful lot of air time but he was hilarious in fairness to him.

Dots1982

Matt Scott talking about Englands World Cup prospects on the show today...he is cray cray

riemann

sheroman01 wrote: »

Anyone go to the live show last night in Vicar Street?

It was a great show, some fantastic stories.

sheroman01

Dots1982 wrote: »

Matt Scott talking about Englands World Cup prospects on the show today...he is cray cray

I was going mad listening to him. Jesus. Some of his comments below, with no hint of irony or sarcasm:

Englands best squad in 30 years
Englands defensive options are not that bad
Loves Harry Maguire
Henderson and Dier are good DM options

Arghus

sheroman01 wrote: »

I was going mad listening to him. Jesus. Some of his comments below, with no hint of irony or sarcasm:

Englands best squad in 30 years
Englands defensive options are not that bad
Loves Harry Maguire
Henderson and Dier are good DM options

The hype train has to start somewhere I guess.

kmfrob

Anybody else find Pat Nevin a little irritating?

He masks himself as being informed but the other day his analysis boiled down to nothing more than “he’s not running enough”...

He’s as much a ‘proper football man’ as Rosenior is and I subscribe to tfs precisely to avoid these types of pundits

Arghus

kmfrob wrote: »

Anybody else find Pat Nevin a little irritating?

He masks himself as being informed but the other day his analysis boiled down to nothing more than “he’s not running enough”...

He’s as much a ‘proper football man’ as Rosenior is and I subscribe to tfs precisely to avoid these types of pundits

I can take or leave him. He does come up with the odd nugget of good stuff but he has this awful whiff of faux humbleness about him and all that stuff about him being really into indie music just screams of a try-hard.

He's a so-so analyst: I wouldn't turn something off because he's on it, but I wouldn't be dying to hear what he has to say either.

Ol' Donie

Pat Nevin is a weird one.

He seems like a thoroughly nice fella, and I think he really knows his stuff. But - and this is an odd thing to say about a contributor to a podcast - i kinda just wish he'd shut up a bit more.

sheroman01

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Pat Nevin is a weird one.

He seems like a thoroughly nice fella, and I think he really knows his stuff. But - and this is an odd thing to say about a contributor to a podcast - i kinda just wish he'd shut up a bit more.

Ha, I'm the exact same. Still torn as to whether I like him or not, as a contributor that is, not as a person. He sure does love to talk, especially at the live show He's like a character in a sketch show, where he's the lovable nice guy who just talks and talks and talks. Like that scene from Father Ted where yer man asks Ted what his favorite noise is and just continues to talk to himself in the room alone.

Just listened to the Roma special one there, was really good must say.

Royale with Cheese

That Barney Ronay rant today on football weekly was actually painful to listen to. Might even turn me back on to TFS.

Salvation Tambourine

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

That Barney Ronay rant today on football weekly was actually painful to listen to. Might even turn me back on to TFS.

I reckon he was probably so dismissive and condescending because it was Barry he was talking to. I think Barry had some decent points. Barney just sounded like a child.

Cienciano

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

That Barney Ronay rant today on football weekly was actually painful to listen to. Might even turn me back on to TFS.

I hate Barney Ronay so looking forward to listening to this

Royale with Cheese

Nokotan wrote: »

I reckon he was probably so dismissive and condescending because it was Barry he was talking to. I think Barry had some decent points. Barney just sounded like a child.

Definitely, he got a snipe in about talksport and even did a Ray Parlour voice.

However I think he was completely wrong. He was right initially about the X number of semi finals in a row being irrelevant to the current spurs team as most of those were a long time ago, but he then used that as a straw man to prop up his entire argument and beat Barry over the head with. Just shouting witches curse over and over, I don't for one second think he didn't know exactly what he was doing there. Then there was the jibe where he insinuated an ex player like Dean Ashton referring to the mental side of the game should be disregarded. I'm sure a journalist such as himself would have a better insight there, I mean that is the ONE are of the game you can learn nothing from just by watching and writing about what you see. I'm amazed he wasn't called out on any of that, it was almost like they're afraid of him.

I thought Barry actually handled himself ok, I liked his comment on checking with the accountants to see who'll win the final. Picked apart Ronay's nonsense argument perfectly with just one sentence. To say spurs are void of all criticism because they don't have as much money as United is rubbish. Yes Pogba and and Sanchez cost a lot more so it's more difficult for teams likes spurs to compete over the long run... but on the day spurs had Kane and Eriksen on the pitch and I don't think anyone would pick the two united players over them on recent form. They were poor again in a big game, they won't win anything again. They're fair game for criticism, other teams have had it over the years.

riemann

Monday was one of the worst podcasts I've suffered through.

Arghus

riemann wrote: »

Monday was one of the worst podcasts I've suffered through.

It wasn't great. Whenever James Richardson isn't manning the ship things flounder badly.