London jogger pushes woman in front of bus

JMNolan

RasTa wrote: »

Same thing, he pushed her out of his way and not in front of a bus.

He literally pushed her in front of a bus.

January

There's no way you can't hear a bus approaching you from behind, he knew the bus was there and pushed her into the path of it.

Tigger

January wrote: »

So why didn't he push the man who passed by him, in the exact same position as the woman, less than 5 seconds before? Oh yeah, because he's not big and brave enough to push a man. ****ing prick.

While he's not righ the man was on the kerb path thing not in the same place

RasTa

JMNolan wrote: »

He literally pushed her in front of a bus.

How was he to know there was a bus there? Also the footage is so bad, he will have to come forward as I can't see many identifying him and the police won't be able to use it if someone identify's him and he denies it.

BBDBB

Buses! The real silent killers! :eek:

JMNolan

RasTa wrote: »

How was he to know there was a bus there? Also the footage is so bad, he will have to come forward as I can't see many identifying him and the police won't be able to use it if someone identify's him and he denies it.

That is irrelevant. He literally pushed her in front of a bus. This is a statement of fact.

kylith

RasTa wrote: »

Same thing, he pushed her out of his way and not in front of a bus.

Out of his way, into the road, in front of a bus.

The_Kew_Tour

maybe it was a Ghost Bus?:pac::pac::pac:

Gringo180

Id gut him like a fish. Happily do a stint to do that kunt in.

one armed dwarf

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Has anyone ever had those weird thoughts like 'what if I punch this person walking in my direction' or 'what would happen if I jumped out in front of this incoming train right now' (but in a non-suicidal context)?

Anyone know what I'm talking about? Before anyone calls me a nutter Edgar Allen Poe calls it the 'Imp of the Perverse': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imp_of_the_Perverse_(short_story)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imp_of_the_Perverse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusive_thought

Basically an obsessive compulsion which makes us feel like doing something awful and destructive simply because we shouldn't. Obviously most people don't actually do something like this but I wonder if this guy had one of those thoughts and actually did it.

Let's hope El Trumpo doesn't get visited by the Imp while he's standing if front of a big red button. Any big red button.

YourSuperior

Even some joggers are out to do you in. Misanthropy levels rising...

January

Tigger wrote: »

While he's not righ the man was on the kerb path thing not in the same place

They were in the same position, the man had to veer to push her, you can clearly see it.

EDIT: The man in front was a bit further left on review, he falls back into the same position as the girl after the man passed, hence my confusion. there was plenty of room for the man and woman to pass each other though, he had no reason to push her. (even if she was in his way, he had plenty of room to move to his left).

AllGunsBlazing

He definitely moves into her as she attempts to move further to the the left of the path. It's actually quite bizarre. We've all bumped into people and usually the reflex action is to jump away slightly and hold your hands up in a defensive/slightly apologetic way. None of that business with yer man.

OhHiMark

RasTa wrote: »

Same thing, he pushed her out of his way and not in front of a bus.

He didn't push her out of his way, he moved his arms against her and then she was in a different place.

jamesbere

He obviously a c**t, he didn't if look behind to see if she was ok. You would say something if he didn't see her.

KKkitty

The bus was going slow enough so he knew it was near enough. Whatever was going through his mind this lady could have been killed by his prickish actions.

mad muffin

I've watch this over and over. I don't think he pushed her at all. It appears to me, that the woman tried to trip the jogger as she walked passed. He raises his leg and she trips instead. I don't think he even realises how close her head was to becoming part of the road.

scopper

Years ago a jogger did this to me, the sort of push, and I fell over, not near a road mind! It was very odd, like he was just in some super aggressive zone where he didn't care.

Hrududu

I love that no matter how clear cut something is, even something with video evidence you'll still get internet oddballs coming online to try and argue against the consensus.

He definitely veered towards her to push her. He pushed her with enough force to get her off the path and onto the road. Either he knew the bus was there or he didn't know what was there and pushed her not caring what happened to her. Also liked that he ran past yer man and picked an easier target.

ceadaoin.

mad muffin wrote: »

I've watch this over and over. I don't think he pushed her at all. It appears to me, that the woman tried to trip the jogger as she walked passed. He raises his leg and she trips instead. I don't think he even realises how close her head was to becoming part of the road.

I don't know what you're watching but he clearly veers towards her and forcefully shoves her. After he pushes her, her leg comes up because she is falling into the path of an oncoming bus. She wasn't trying to trip him. Victim blaming much there? Pretty sure that the police have examined the evidence with considerable expertise and concluded that it was a deliberate act.

He even passed by shortly after while the victim was being tended to and blanked her when she tried to challenge him. He is a psycho

January

mad muffin wrote: »

I've watch this over and over. I don't think he pushed her at all. It appears to me, that the woman tried to trip the jogger as she walked passed. He raises his leg and she trips instead. I don't think he even realises how close her head was to becoming part of the road.

She didn't try to trip him at all, you're seeing something that's clearly not happening.

begbysback

Definite yellow card, not sure it's a red

The_Kew_Tour

I have stopped and started this video a few times and the first time the ladies leg comes out straight is when she is just about hit the ground. In no way did she put out a leading leg and its so clear its laughable to think otherwise.

OhHiMark

mad muffin wrote: »

I've watch this over and over. I don't think he pushed her at all. It appears to me, that the woman tried to trip the jogger as she walked passed. He raises his leg and she trips instead. I don't think he even realises how close her head was to becoming part of the road.

How exactly was she supposed to trip him with her right leg when her left leg was extended in front of her?

mad muffin

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I don't know what you're watching but he clearly veers towards her and forcefully shoves her. After he pushes her, her leg comes up because she is falling into the path of an oncoming bus. She wasn't trying to trip him. Victim blaming much there? Pretty sure that the police have examined the evidence with considerable expertise and concluded that it was a deliberate act.

He even passed by shortly after while the victim was being tended to and blanked her when she tried to challenge him. He is a psycho

Maybe she said something and he came closer to hear better. That's when she took her chance to try and trip him. I don't see any contact with his arms only his right leg.

ceadaoin.

mad muffin wrote: »

Maybe she said something and he came closer to hear better. That's when she took her chance to try and trip him. I don't see any contact with his arms only his right leg.

Oh ffs, really? Good theory. Yes, she was taunting him in order to lure him closer just so she could trip him. I bet that's definitely what happened. Bloody evil women

Ficheall

The walking man was walking in the light patch, the running man was in the dark patch. The walking woman was in the dark patch, the running man was in the dark patch, both started moving to the light patch to avoid the other, but this was unsurprisingly unsuccessful, and the running man pushed the walking woman out of his way, either because he's a c*nt, or he couldn't stop in time, and then didn't stop afterwards because he's a c*nt. She's very lucky to be alive.

There are already idiots on twitter citing this as a reason to hate men. Sigh.

mad muffin

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Oh ffs, really? Good theory. Yes, she was taunting him in order to lure him closer just so she could trip him. I bet that's definitely what happened. Bloody evil women

You never know. Londoners are mental. She could have told him this is a walk way… WALK WAY NOT RUN WAY *try's to trip*. And he was like THIS IS SPARTA! *trip*

GLaDOS

I'd really like to see what the people claiming to see an attempted trip see. Cause I just see a man barrelling into a women for no reason.

LionelNashe

theteal wrote: »

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I have issues with city joggers - it doesn't make sense to me, there are plenty of parks around with cleaner air to be breathing. I don't care if his excuse is she was in his way, she was using the path appropriately, he was the one jogging, he should the one making the effort to get out of other pedestrians way.

I live in Dublin 1. It's hard enough to get motivated to exercise without having to make a trip to say, Fairview Park or the Phoenix Park, and then back again afterwards. There's plenty of room for both walkers & joggers on footpaths.

RasTa

I couldn't imagine running in a city. I'd end up doing the same as this guy. I get pissed walking around town

Mint Sauce

just seen this on the BBC News, assault/ABH at the very very least. BBC News posted a photo shoot taken from the doors of the passing bus, am sure there would be further shoots from other buses of him, and face on shoots when he ran the other way on the bridge (assuming he ran on the same side). Plus other cameras at junctions at either end of the bridge, and on the approach roads to Putney Bridge UnderGround.

If he is a regular user of the bridge at that time, someone will definitely recognise him, and be able to identify him.

robinph

ceadaoin. wrote: »

mad muffin wrote: »

I've watch this over and over. I don't think he pushed her at all. It appears to me, that the woman tried to trip the jogger as she walked passed. He raises his leg and she trips instead. I don't think he even realises how close her head was to becoming part of the road.

I don't know what you're watching but he clearly veers towards her and forcefully shoves her. After he pushes her, her leg comes up because she is falling into the path of an oncoming bus. She wasn't trying to trip him. Victim blaming much there? Pretty sure that the police have examined the evidence with considerable expertise and concluded that it was a deliberate act.

He even passed by shortly after while the victim was being tended to and blanked her when she tried to challenge him. He is a psycho

He veers towards her alright, but you can't see if there is a shove or not, or if it is just a shoulder barge. It's definitely not the kind of move you'd make when trying to avoid someone at the last moment so there is definite intent.

Can't tell what that intent was from that view though.

LionelNashe

If that's the only picture they have of the guy, I don't think they'll find him unless he hands himself in. My money is on him having run out of his anti-psychotic meds in the days running up to that incident, or he was trying to snatch the bag from her right shoulder and she lost her balance, aided by him nudging into her.

I recently heard about CCTV cameras that take every Xth frame in high definition, so that the operators can get really sharp pictures, and zoom in if necessary, without adding too much to the data storage overheads. It will be good when that's more widespread.

inforfun

If she had her head buried in a phone and been swerving all over the path because of that and she had been number 15 doign that on the jogger's path during his run, i can somewhat understand a reaction.

But she wasnt holding a phone, only marginally more to the middle of the path as the guy he didnt push.

Get him locked up for attempted murder for all i care.

Tigger

Ficheall wrote: »

The walking man was walking in the light patch, the running man was in the dark patch. The walking woman was in the dark patch, the running man was in the dark patch, both started moving to the light patch to avoid the other, but this was unsurprisingly unsuccessful, and the running man pushed the walking woman out of his way, either because he's a c*nt, or he couldn't stop in time, and then didn't stop afterwards because he's a c*nt. She's very lucky to be alive.

There are already idiots on twitter citing this as a reason to hate men. Sigh.

Well said Smitchell

ceadaoin.

robinph wrote: »

He veers towards her alright, but you can't see if there is a shove or not, or if it is just a shoulder barge. It's definitely not the kind of move you'd make when trying to avoid someone at the last moment so there is definite intent.

Can't tell what that intent was from that view though.

I think that you can clearly see that he does push her with his right arm, it looks to be fully extended by the time she is on the ground. There is a slowed down version on this article where you can see it better

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jogger-woman-push-woman-london-bus-video-putney-bridge-metropolitan-police-footage-a7881996.html

Also, the police spokesman said

Sgt Knowles said: “This is a deliberate act on his behalf. His hands come across and push her.

SCOOP 64

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I think that you can clearly see that he does push her with his right arm, it looks to be fully extended by the time she is on the ground. There is a slowed down version on this article where you can see it better

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jogger-woman-push-woman-london-bus-video-putney-bridge-metropolitan-police-footage-a7881996.html

Wow, first time i seen it , he clearly moves over to push her ,what is his motive?

Hannibal_Smith

That's mad! It looks a bit like she may have been in his path and started moving out of his way. But there was plenty of path if that was his issue. Why not move to the other side instead of running towards her and barrelling right through her and then not even stopping to see if she was ok? Very odd.

B.A._Baracus

Let's take bets on what he says when he gets caught.

- I didn't mean to do that.
- I was having a bad day and thought she wouldn't fall to the ground.
- She came out of no where.
- I suffer from x, y or z. I'm a nice guy.

Sam Kade

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Let's take bets on what he says when he gets caught.

- I didn't mean to do that.
- I was having a bad day and thought she wouldn't fall to the ground.
- She came out of no where.
- I suffer from x, y or z. I'm a nice bloke.

FYP Brits use their native slang words unlike here where plenty think it's America :rolleyes:

B.A._Baracus

Sam Kade wrote: »

FYP Brits use their native slang words unlike here where plenty think it's America :rolleyes:

You ok dude?














:pac:

Dial Hard

mad muffin wrote:

Maybe she said something and he came closer to hear better. That's when she took her chance to try and trip him. I don't see any contact with his arms only his right leg.

We've just reached peak After Hours.

AllGunsBlazing

Sam Kade wrote: »

FYP Brits use their native slang words unlike here where plenty think it's America :rolleyes:

that was random....

Spanish Eyes

Pedestrians are scum it seems.

Interfering with runners, joggers and god forbid cyclists.

There is no place in the world for walkers in a city anymore. They haven't got the power. How did that happen?

RubyGlee

Quite obvious what's happened.
The jogger is a hired hitman possibly Russian. He's been watching his mark for a while now, got her routine down. Noted she walks this way to work every morning always at the same time.
got himself the bus timetable and assumed the identity of an unknown jogger waiting. As this has to look like an accident he made a cunning plan. He hadn't accounted for the quick reaction from the bus driver because the usual slow older driver was off sick.plot foiled

RasTa

They don't pay car tax either so shouldn't be allowed cross any streets.

BBDBB

Not to be outdone

The only answer is for us to select every 10th jogger and execute them until they give up the identity of the perpetrator

Carry

RubyGlee wrote: »

Quite obvious what's happened.
The jogger is a hired hitman possibly Russian. He's been watching his mark for a while now, got her routine down. Noted she walks this way to work every morning always at the same time.
got himself the bus timetable and assumed the identity of an unknown jogger waiting. As this has to look like an accident he made a cunning plan. He hadn't accounted for the quick reaction from the bus driver because the usual slow older driver was off sick.plot foiled

Or, swerving (sorry) from spy novel to domestic noir, he is in cahoots with the big man who he seems to avoid and who is a disgruntled ex who wants the woman killed. He agrees with the runner to wink at him to signal that it's exactly that woman and that a bus is approaching. Promptly the runner kicks out, but fails to kill her.

The disgruntled ex now is really angry and plots, sitting lonely and brooding in a pub, how to kill them both ....


What the runner did is despicable but we can speculate about his motives until the cows come home. We don't know until he is caught. And sometimes there is no motive at all. It's just because.

Junkyard Tom

There are two sides to every story. Two wrongs don't make a right.