Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2017/2018

Benzino

Meh, we are in no position to be judge Barca. Our manager met VVD without permission, unsettling him to the point where he isn't even training with his team any more. And for what? We never even put a bid in.

At least Barca didn't get caught red handed and actually made offers to buy the player they wanted.

Grayditch

In the world? There's no CB in the world that could do what VVD does? Ah this smacks of laziness or sheer stubbornness to be honest.

If you have leaky pipes, you'll take the second best plumber.

rossie1977

Drumpot wrote: »

Do you think Coutihno will be able to put his disappointment aside and perform at his peak this season ? Do you feel Liverpool didn't sell to save face or because the player is an integral part of their plans this season ?

He is a professional footballer that only signed a huge deal in January.

Save face from what?

Yes he is integral. He has been best player last two seasons. A guy Barcelona wanted that bad has to be integral to any team. 10 man of the match awards in 28 starts last season..that's the best of anyone in the league, hazard had 9 with more starts.

Its a funny one, because it appears that Liverpool have a player who desperately wanted to leave, so the risk is that you have an underperforming superstar for one year and might even get less for him next season.

Again he signed a deal in January so a few months ago he was happy to commit long term. With the market increasing dramatically season after season and world cup year where the premium of every player sure to increase especially those at the top teams like Brazil, Italy, France, Germany etc. So I can't see him being worth less next August.

In terms of Klopp, I think he's the right coach at the right club. I wanted him as United manager because I prefer his approach in terms of building teams and in terms of football that his teams play. I do wonder if Liverpool would of been better served selling Coutihno because it has the potential to be a hindrance if his form is really erratic and the issue doesn't settle down.

Liverpool are a better team with him than without.

If his form is erratic he will be dropped and sold in January or next summer. I don't see the issue.

Sell him to Madrid for the lols

SuperTortoise

Grayditch wrote: »

In the world? There's no CB in the world that could do what VVD does? Ah this smacks of laziness or sheer stubbornness to be honest.

If you have leaky pipes, you'll take the second best plumber.

And if the leaky pipes spring a leak in 12 months time you'll wonder why you did'nt just wait for the best plumber in the first place!

RobertKK

Turtyturd wrote: »

Hilarious attempt at face saving and trying to unsettle Coutinho further.

Also just realised that him staying really made it a disappointing window for United fans. It was the transfer they'd been looking forward to all summer.

It makes no difference to United fans, we got Lukaku, Matic, Lindelof and our top scorer from last season re-signed, plus looks like Griezmann is joining next summer.
Liverpool didn't win anything with Coutinho so it is not like United when we did lose Ronaldo which was a real reason for opposition to be happy, as he was scoring a lot of goals before he left.
Coutinho last season scored 14 goals and 9 assists in the 36 games he played in, good player but not one to get the opposition worked up over that he is still at Liverpool.
Sadio Mane is more important player for Liverpool than Coutinho.
Coutinho was not the issue for Liverpool, I don't see the defensive issue at Liverpool sorted, Liverpool can score goals, that has not been the issue for the most part, it has been defence and I think that issue remains.
If there had been major investment in defence then maybe one would feel Liverpool are a real threat for the PL.
The offence with or without Coutinho has generally not been an issue for Liverpool.

TitianGerm

RobertKK wrote: »

It makes no difference to United fans, we got Lukaku, Matic, Lindelof and our top scorer from last season re-signed, plus looks like Griezmann is joining next summer.
Liverpool didn't win anything with Coutinho so it is not like United when we did lose Ronaldo which was a real reason for opposition to be happy, as he was scoring a lot of goals before he left.
Coutinho last season scored 14 goals and 9 assists in the 36 games he played in, good player but not one to get the opposition worked up over that he is still at Liverpool.
Sadio Mane is more important player for Liverpool than Coutinho.
Coutinho was not the issue for Liverpool, I don't see the defensive issue at Liverpool sorted, Liverpool can score goals, that has not been the issue for the most part, it has been defence and I think that issue remains.
If there had been major investment in defence then maybe one would feel Liverpool are a real threat for the PL.
The offence with or without Coutinho has generally not been an issue for Liverpool.

We didn't win anything with without Suarez either but opposition fans were glad to see him leave because it weakened Liverpool.

Gmol

Gmol wrote: »

He just wants the right one. There are many centre backs out there but very few better that would improve the team when playing the way we do.

SuperTortoise wrote: »

And if the leaky pipes spring a leak in 12 months time you'll wonder why you did'nt just wait for the best plumber in the first place!

And Virgil will prevent the leaks?

Agent Coulson

Grayditch wrote: »

In the world? There's no CB in the world that could do what VVD does? Ah this smacks of laziness or sheer stubbornness to be honest.

If you have leaky pipes, you'll take the second best plumber.

SuperTortoise wrote: »

And if the leaky pipes spring a leak in 12 months time you'll wonder why you did'nt just wait for the best plumber in the first place!

You build dyke's Dijk's to stop leaks :pac:

BorneTobyWilde

Coutinho will have to perform. He should be told that he can leave in 9 months if he performs, if not the the clubs stance will continue and he can stay another season.
Perform for club paying your salary and leave with the fans cheering you on, or fake injury and we will do the same merry dance next summer and keep you.

Osmosis Jones

It actually makes sense to integrate Coutinho back into the team in for City game. It's at the Etihad so the atmosphere won't feel out of place when nobody cheers for him anyway.

One_Of_Shanks

Grayditch wrote: »

In the world? There's no CB in the world that could do what VVD does? Ah this smacks of laziness or sheer stubbornness to be honest.

If you have leaky pipes, you'll take the second best plumber.

I'd say he's confident about getting him in January though fella. So he's thinking it's better to wait 4 months and get the player he wants rather than buy a player he doesn't rate as much as VVD right now.

Maybe it's a tad stuborn though as you said and God only knows the stuff that will get said on here if Matip gets a bad injury soon and we're left up ****e creek

TitianGerm

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

It actually makes sense to integrate Coutinho back into the team in for City game. It's at the Etihad so the atmosphere won't feel out of place when nobody cheers for him anyway.

Because it'll be half empty :pac:

shaunr68

Agent Coulson wrote: »

You build dyke's Dijk's to stop leaks :pac:

I was wondering whether anybody would use the analogy of the Dutch boy sticking his finger in the dyke

Grayditch

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

I'd say he's confident about getting him in January though fella. So he's thinking it's better to wait 4 months and get the player he wants rather than buy a player he doesn't rate as much as VVD right now.

Maybe it's a tad stuborn though as you said and God only knows the stuff that will get said on here if Matip gets a bad injury soon and we're left up ****e creek

If he comes in Jan and we're not in bits at the back by then, it'll have worked out. Chances are it will mean that VVD won't go anywhere else if he sees Liverpool waiting on him.

Pretty fantastic show of dedication on Klopp's part as far as VanD will be concerned.

It's just mad risky to go half a season without.

One_Of_Shanks

Grayditch wrote: »

If he comes in Jan and we're not in bits at the back by then, it'll have worked out. Chances are it will mean that VVD won't go anywhere else if he sees Liverpool waiting on him.

Pretty fantastic show of dedication on Klopp's part as far as VanD will be concerned.

It's just mad risky to go half a season without.

Yep it's a big gamble alright. He gambled big time on not buying a LB last Summer too I thought and he got away with it so fingers crossed he'll get away with this wee gamble too.

citytillidie

Liverpool have denied what Barca have said about demanding €200m

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41134630

Agent Coulson

Mane, Salah, Ox, Moreno & Markovic that's a nice bit of pace to have this season.

Buford T. Justice XIX

A few free agents coming up next year...

https://www.transfermarkt.com/statistik/endendevertraege

Can will hopefully sign a new contract and a few more there will as well I'd imagine but there is a few interesting players there like Max Meyer.

Gbear

Someone made an interesting point on the Anfield Wrap over the last few days.

When Klopp was talking about how Coutinho was out of his hands after Watford, it sounded an awful lot like Coutinho was about to be sold from under him.

With what's gone on since what it actually looks like is that Klopp wanted to give him the boot because he doesn't indulge players in these matters and FSG were the ones telling him absolutely not.

~Rebel~

Gbear wrote: »

Someone made an interesting point on the Anfield Wrap over the last few days.

When Klopp was talking about how Coutinho was out of his hands after Watford, it sounded an awful lot like Coutinho was about to be sold from under him.

With what's gone on since what it actually looks like is that Klopp wanted to give him the boot because he doesn't indulge players in these matters and FSG were the ones telling him absolutely not.

Honestly, I really don't think Klopp is using post-match pressers to give secret hints towards his feelings on Coutinho.

I think the most likely reason for his words was "please stop asking me this same ****ing question every single press conference - there's a definitive statement right up there on the website from the owners, it's clear as day, leave me alone."

At a push, there could be some element of "hey phil, our relationship is the same as it was, I wasn't standing in your way".

sword1

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

A few free agents coming up next year...

https://www.transfermarkt.com/statistik/endendevertraege

Can will hopefully sign a new contract and a few more there will as well I'd imagine but there is a few interesting players there like Max Meyer.

Resigned to Can leaving, juventus stories are very strong. I hope I am wrong

OwaynOTT

So that's why we sold sakho. He was a painter and not a plumber.

Agent Coulson

A few on that list look decent.

I'd be all over talking to Isco if he hasn't signed a contract by January.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Agent Coulson wrote: »

A few on that list look decent.

I'd be all over talking to Isco if he hasn't signed a contract by January.

Considering the average age of the squad is something like 24.7 years old, one or two Toure/McAllister type players might not go amiss to keep a bit of maturity in the background of the squad.

We have the youngest squad of the top 6, iirc.

martyos121

Shaw, Wilshere and Moutinho are the three realistic ones I'd take from that list. The first two because Klopp is a specialist in turning around promising careers that have taken a turn for the worse, and Moutinho because of the experience he provides.

Osmosis Jones

Gimenez on a free would be very nice.

Ulysses Gaze

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Gimenez on a free would be very nice.

So would Neven Subotic.

Klopp has worked with him before.
And got the best out of him.

Turtyturd

martyos121 wrote: »

Shaw, Wilshere and Moutinho are the three realistic ones I'd take from that list.

Good setup...

The first two because Klopp is a specialist in turning around promising careers that have taken a turn for the worse, and Moutinho because of the experience he provides.

Not the punchline I expected.

Osmosis Jones

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

So would Neven Subotic.

Klopp has worked with him before.
And got the best out of him.

Could've sworn Subotic was in his mid 30s, at 28 he'd be another decent option.

paulie21

Woodburn cracker

SlickRic

Woodburn just scored a peach for Wales.

Charlie19

Woody:)

Osmosis Jones

Cracker. He's not even just "young" he's only fcuking 17 years old.

Agent Coulson

£1 Trillion buyout clause.

~Rebel~

Luan could be another interesting one... been linked with him since forever.

Harry Palmr

FFS, Barca will trying to unsettle the lad. Expect cryptic messages referencing Paella with leeks from May.

https://imgtc.com/w/HoRU8Vw

S4C comms are going wild - "Big Ben"

martyos121

10 year contract for Woodburn now please, forget about Can.

Agent Coulson

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Considering the average age of the squad is something like 24.7 years old, one or two Toure/McAllister type players might not go amiss to keep a bit of maturity in the background of the squad.

We have the youngest squad of the top 6, iirc.

Iniesta :eek:

eyerer

martyos121 wrote: »

10 year contract for Woodburn now please, forget about Can.

Forget about Coutinho :P
Cracking finish

Harry Palmr

So Woody has scored debut senior goals for Liverpool and Wales in the combined space of about 5 and a half minutes after coming on.

#supersub

#newdavidfairclough

mosstin

martyos121 wrote: »

Shaw, Wilshere and Moutinho are the three realistic ones I'd take from that list. The first two because Klopp is a specialist in turning around promising careers that have taken a turn for the worse, and Moutinho because of the experience he provides.

Wilshere? Jack Wilshere?

You are ****ing having me on.

I won't sleep tonight.

Harry Palmr

Wilshire is the Anti-Klopp, prone to weight issues (!), a ball dawdler, and non-presser.

Agent Coulson

Max Meyer is on the list I wouldn't surprised one bit if he is targeted.

We were also linked to Ghoulam I think as well.

Harry Palmr

I take it everyone is assuming Coutinho is off then? If so it's Kovacic I'd be after, he seems to be the odd man out in Real's midfield so many talents do they have.

Shaw carries too much baggage

Agent Coulson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I take it everyone is assuming Coutinho is off then? If so it's Kovacic I'd be after, he seems to be the odd man out in Real's midfield so many talents do they have.

I'd love to tell him we won't sell him and he can leave on a free when is contract is up.

54and56

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I'd love to tell him we won't sell him and he can leave on a free when is contract is up.

Given the sting Barca must be feeling by not getting Coutinho this time round it wouldn't surprise me if they decide not to stick their necks out again at Xmas or next Summer. Imagine if they were unsuccessful twice in a row for the same player? It would take a serious amount of gloss off their (perceived) reputation.

Osmosis Jones

I'd assume if our interest in Lemar was legitimate then we'll be back in for him next summer.

sword1

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

I'd assume if our interest in Lemar was legitimate then we'll be back in for him next summer.

Of course the interest in lemar was legitimate. Can't believe anyone falls for the only pretend trying to buy crap. That doesn't mean that we will be back in for him though. Situations change, his and the club's.