Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2017/2018

LiamoSail

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Isco is in the last year of his contract at Madrid I wonder could we do a cash plus Isco deal with Madrid for Coutinho.

Makes a lot of sense for both parties. Real obviously have money to spend given they missed out on Mbappe and the pissing in Barca's cornflakes element of the deal would more than make up for the player not being in Real's usual category of "galatico"

rossie1977

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Isco is in the last year of his contract at Madrid I wonder could we do a cash plus Isco deal with Madrid for Coutinho.

Can't see Madrid letting isco go. He is their most important player going forward for the next 5 years seeing as Ronaldo is 33 in February, Benzema is 30 in December and bale has flattered to deceive

Harry Palmr

There is no way Isco will be let go - RM will make him a massive offer. Like I always say its Kovacic who Liverpool should be looking at - he's the bench warmer who's far too good to be sat there. Mind you if Liverpool are going for Lemar again next summer it's all academic anyway.

Blanco100

LiamoSail wrote: »

Makes a lot of sense for both parties. Real obviously have money to spend given they missed out on Mbappe and the pissing in Barca's cornflakes element of the deal would more than make up for the player not being in Real's usual category of "galatico"

Isco is a more complete player than Coutinho.

Agent Coulson

Ings wasn't named in the CL squad either.

dogbert27

Can was an unused sub tonight and so was Sturridge.

Henderson and Ox came through without injury. Robertson played 90 mins. without injury.

Tomorrow night there is more involved:

Potentially TAA, Gomez and Solanke could all start for the England U21's.

Salah, Mane, Firmino and Coutinho could all start tomorrow night.

Lovren will probably start tomorrow night and that will be two games in 48 hours for him with tomorrow nights game being away in Turkey too.

I don't think Coleman will start Woodburn tomorrow night but he will probably get some minutes.

Milner and Matip retired from International duty. Moreno not good enough for International duty. Clyne injured.

Have I missed anyone?

Harry Palmr

Ings is likely to spend the season playing domestic cups and U23s

klose

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Ings wasn't named in the CL squad either.

Im not sure I share the same optimism for ings than some seem to have, i mean he will have missed 2 seasons worth of football by the time hes fit and available again.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

dogbert27 wrote: »

Can was an unused sub tonight and so was Sturridge.

Henderson and Ox came through without injury. Robertson played 90 mins. without injury.

Tomorrow night there is more involved:

Potentially TAA, Gomez and Solanke could all start for the England U21's.

Salah, Mane, Firmino and Coutinho could all start tomorrow night.

Lovren will probably start tomorrow night and that will be two games in 48 hours for him with tomorrow nights game being away in Turkey too.

I don't think Coleman will start Woodburn tomorrow night but he will probably get some minutes.

Milner and Matip retired from International duty. Moreno not good enough for International duty. Clyne injured.

Have I missed anyone?

Mignolet :pac:

dogbert27

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Mignolet :pac:

Belgium didn't have a game tonight or play tomorrow night.

Karius not picked for Germany or their U-21's.

dogbert27

dogbert27 wrote: »

...

Karius not picked for Germany or their U-21's.

On bench for senior team?

Utopia Parkway

garra wrote: »

I can't enjoy the Ox being brutal for England any more

He was terrible tonight. Klopp will really have to work his magic to make something out of him.

dogbert27

Augeo wrote: »

On bench for senior team?

Nope.

J Mysterio

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Ings wasn't named in the CL squad either.

Oh, that's unfortunate. He's been back to full training for a month or so, no? Perhaps Klopp doesnt rate him.

~Rebel~

J Mysterio wrote: »

Oh, that's unfortunate. He's been back to full training for a month or so, no? Perhaps Klopp doesnt rate him.

As we've seen with Sturridge, full training doesn't mean 'ready for the premiership'.

I think if he was actually fit, and Klopp just didn't rate him, he'd be on loan right now, but that never seemed a possibility. And considering centre forward is further weakened by Origi being on loan, i'd say Klopp does actually rate Ings.

He's had back to back serious long term injuries though, and clearly last time out they threw him in at the deep end too soon, and it cost him a season. This time it looks like they're taking the cautious approach they should have taken last time. Making sure that not only is the injury healed, but all the other muscle and tissue that will have atrophied while being out, is all fully strengthened and ready, so something else doesn't give way, as happened a year ago.

So I think we'll only see him when he's fully, and totally ready to be physically tested at the highest level again. I also think he's probably the best natural replacement for Firmino at CF, even moreso than Sturridge.

Buford T. Justice XIX

~Rebel~ wrote: »

As we've seen with Sturridge, full training doesn't mean 'ready for the premiership'.

I think if he was actually fit, and Klopp just didn't rate him, he'd be on loan right now, but that never seemed a possibility. And considering centre forward is further weakened by Origi being on loan, i'd say Klopp does actually rate Ings.

He's had back to back serious long term injuries though, and clearly last time out they threw him in at the deep end too soon, and it cost him a season. This time it looks like they're taking the cautious approach they should have taken last time. Making sure that not only is the injury healed, but all the other muscle and tissue that will have atrophied while being out, is all fully strengthened and ready, so something else doesn't give way, as happened a year ago.

So I think we'll only see him when he's fully, and totally ready to be physically tested at the highest level again. I also think he's probably the best natural replacement for Firmino at CF, even moreso than Sturridge.

It's worked to a degree with Sturridge but his body doesn't seem up to him playing full time not to mention at a very high tempo. Pity too as he was such a great player.

Hopefully Ings won't have those long term issues but it must be difficult to get the body to 100% after 2 years out.

~Rebel~

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

It's worked to a degree with Sturridge but his body doesn't seem up to him playing full time not to mention at a very high tempo. Pity too as he was such a great player.

Hopefully Ings won't have those long term issues but it must be difficult to get the body to 100% after 2 years out.

Yeah, the shame with Sturridge is that this approach wasn't taken with him years ago. It seems like the injuries have taken a permanent toll on him, and no matter how fit he gets, he'll never regain the quick-twitch speed he used to have.

Hopefully this level of recuperation will have come in time for Ings. He's still young enough, only just turned 25, that he could come back from it. And while knee injuries can be awful, they're not typically the ones that kill your speed, so fingers crossed. 2 serious knee injuries in each knee at this stage though... he really needs to be handled very carefully for the remainder of his career.

dogbert27

J Mysterio wrote: »

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Ings wasn't named in the CL squad either.

Oh, that's unfortunate. He's been back to full training for a month or so, no? Perhaps Klopp doesnt rate him.

He only completed his first 90 mins. with the U23s pn Aug 25th. It will take him another while to get prepared for a premier league 90 mins. so definitely not ready for a CL squad.

If I'm right the CL squads get updated for the knock out stages. We'll see if he makes that depending on his performances up to January.

BorneTobyWilde

Hi quick brain and quick feet remain, and can still lose his man over 8ft with his movement and his ability to fluster an opponent

Jesus Wept

Off to Berlin tomorrow m8s.


Hopefully somewhere is showing the game v city.

Agent Coulson

Journalist: "How do you see Brazilian football nowadays?"


Fun Bobby: "I have a TV"

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYo2lImFDDA/

rob316

Jesus Wept wrote: »

Off to Berlin tomorrow m8s.


Hopefully somewhere is showing the game v city.[/QUOTE
Enjoy mate that and Budapest are my favorite spots in Europe

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Jesus Wept wrote: »

Off to Berlin tomorrow m8s.


Hopefully somewhere is showing the game v city.

Belushi's on Rosa Luxembourg Strasse shows pretty much everything sport-related. Failing that, any Irish bar - but be warned, the prices are ridiculous (be Berlin standards, and still kinda steep by Irish).

Knex*

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Journalist: "How do you see Brazilian football nowadays?"


Fun Bobby: "I have a TV"

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYo2lImFDDA/

From a time prior to his teeth starting their daily struggle to block out the sun.

DrumSteve

Apparently United in for Can.

eyerer

Jesus Wept wrote: »

Off to Berlin tomorrow m8s.


Hopefully somewhere is showing the game v city.

Keep us updated on the food and drink

DrumSteve

DrumSteve wrote: »

Apparently United in for Can.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/850084/Liverpool-News-LIVE-updates-Klopp-Coutinho-Barcelona-Can-Juventus-Markovic-latest

In the same speel ..........

"Coutinho to skip Champions League
09:00: Philippe Coutinho is considering refusing to play in the Champions League for Liverpool to ensure his eligibility if he leaves in January.

According to Spanish newspaper Sport, Coutinho could refuse to play for them in an attempt to play for Barcelona in the knockout stages.

The report claims Coutinho's 'disgust' with Liverpool is 'monumental’ and he remains frustrated by the 'arrogant attitude' of the club"

DrumSteve

Augeo wrote: »

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/850084/Liverpool-News-LIVE-updates-Klopp-Coutinho-Barcelona-Can-Juventus-Markovic-latest

In the same speel ..........

"Coutinho to skip Champions League
09:00: Philippe Coutinho is considering refusing to play in the Champions League for Liverpool to ensure his eligibility if he leaves in January.

According to Spanish newspaper Sport, Coutinho could refuse to play for them in an attempt to play for Barcelona in the knockout stages.

The report claims Coutinho's 'disgust' with Liverpool is 'monumental’ and he remains frustrated by the 'arrogant attitude' of the club"

Arrogant attitude of the club...? Oh, the irony.

Isn't Sport a Barca mouthpiece anyway?

punk_one82

Augeo wrote: »

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/850084/Liverpool-News-LIVE-updates-Klopp-Coutinho-Barcelona-Can-Juventus-Markovic-latest

In the same speel ..........

"Coutinho to skip Champions League
09:00: Philippe Coutinho is considering refusing to play in the Champions League for Liverpool to ensure his eligibility if he leaves in January.

According to Spanish newspaper Sport, Coutinho could refuse to play for them in an attempt to play for Barcelona in the knockout stages.

The report claims Coutinho's 'disgust' with Liverpool is 'monumental’ and he remains frustrated by the 'arrogant attitude' of the club"

If that is true he can get ****ed and rot in the reserves for the season.

DrumSteve

DrumSteve wrote: »

Arrogant attitude of the club...? Oh, the irony.

Isn't Sport a Barca mouthpiece anyway?

punk_one82 wrote: »

If that is true he can get ****ed and rot in the reserves for the season.

I'd be surprised if it's true but you never know. If he really did want out that he could well be p1ssed off.

The back injury and the crying on international duty was desperate carry on.

DrumSteve

Augeo wrote: »

I'd be surprised if it's true but you never know. If he really did want out that he could well be p1ssed off.

The back injury and the crying on international duty was desperate carry on.

You would have imagined he would have seen how Suarez reacted to it and followed that example

Grayditch

He's some absolute gimp.

LuckyLloyd

emo72 wrote: »

Doesn't Klopp have a great rep as a manager who can turn around a player that's deemed a failure at other clubs? Wonder why markovic has gone so bad? Not even close to getting a look in. And he looked great.

Where? When?

brevity

DrumSteve wrote: »

Apparently United in for Can.

Tennant's?

LuckyLloyd

Register him for the CL and **** him the reserves. He'll come around.

dogbert27

Augeo wrote: »

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/850084/Liverpool-News-LIVE-updates-Klopp-Coutinho-Barcelona-Can-Juventus-Markovic-latest

In the same speel ..........

"Coutinho to skip Champions League
09:00: Philippe Coutinho is considering refusing to play in the Champions League for Liverpool to ensure his eligibility if he leaves in January.

According to Spanish newspaper Sport, Coutinho could refuse to play for them in an attempt to play for Barcelona in the knockout stages.

The report claims Coutinho's 'disgust' with Liverpool is 'monumental’ and he remains frustrated by the 'arrogant attitude' of the club"

If he does pull this nonsense then I expect the club to start fining him wages and I would want the club to continue with their arrogant attitude and hold him to the remainder of his 5 year contract!!

DrumSteve

brevity wrote: »

Tennant's?

Newton and Ridleys.

dogbert27

dogbert27 wrote: »

If he does pull this nonsense then I expect the club to start fining him wages and I would want the club to continue with their arrogant attitude and hold him to the remainder of his 5 year contract!!

All games really ............. if he does want out and kicks off this rubbish the fans will get p1ssed off with him, Klopp too of course ....... come Jan FSG might well leave him off to Barca ........ who might not be offering so much cash then.

dogbert27

Augeo wrote: »

All games really ............. if he does want out and kicks off this rubbish the fans will get p1ssed off with him, Klopp too of course ....... come Jan FSG might well leave him off to Barca ........ who might not be offering so much cash then.

Why Barca? If it goes to that put him on the open market but do what Southampton did to Liverpool and refuse to deal with Barcelona.

I'd say Neymar would happily request PSG buy him!

dogbert27

dogbert27 wrote: »

Why Barca? If it goes to that put him on the open market but do what Southampton did to Liverpool and refuse to deal with Barcelona.

I'd say Neymar would happily request PSG buy him!

Indeed, good point.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

dogbert27 wrote: »

Augeo wrote: »

All games really ............. if he does want out and kicks off this rubbish the fans will get p1ssed off with him, Klopp too of course ....... come Jan FSG might well leave him off to Barca ........ who might not be offering so much cash then.

Why Barca? If it goes to that put him on the open market but do what Southampton did to Liverpool and refuse to deal with Barcelona.

I'd say Neymar would happily request PSG buy him!

sly word with Real Madrid. Everyone wins...

corwill

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Where? When?

He had a somewhat competent half an hour or so against Basel before getting red carded. And... em... you know... Hull...

Never mind, sorry to bother you.

Tusky

Augeo wrote: »

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/850084/Liverpool-News-LIVE-updates-Klopp-Coutinho-Barcelona-Can-Juventus-Markovic-latest

In the same speel ..........

"Coutinho to skip Champions League
09:00: Philippe Coutinho is considering refusing to play in the Champions League for Liverpool to ensure his eligibility if he leaves in January.

According to Spanish newspaper Sport, Coutinho could refuse to play for them in an attempt to play for Barcelona in the knockout stages.

The report claims Coutinho's 'disgust' with Liverpool is 'monumental’ and he remains frustrated by the 'arrogant attitude' of the club"

The Express should not be posted here.

J Mysterio

DrumSteve wrote: »

Apparently United in for Can.

:pac::pac::pac:

dogbert27

corwill wrote: »

He had a somewhat competent half an hour or so against Basel before getting red carded. And... em... you know... Hull...

Never mind, sorry to bother you.

He had a good half an hour against Sunderland a few years ago!

Tusky

Tusky wrote: »

The Express should not be posted here.

Why?
apologies if it's offensice like The *** would be

Dickerty

Salah and Rudiger are the only major transfers this summer that were undervalued, according to research...

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41158426

http://www.football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/mr/mr27/en/

5starpool

J Mysterio wrote: »

:pac::pac::pac:

Sadly, nothing we can do about it if they are. If he does leave, like I expect him to at this stage, hopefully it will be abroad, whether to Juve or someone else.

The express are total rumour aggregators though, no substance.

5starpool

Augeo wrote: »

Why?
apologies if it's offensice like The *** would be

Just because it's beyond muck I'd say.

tok9

Dickerty wrote: »

Salah and Rudiger are the only major transfers this summer that were undervalued, according to research...

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41158426

http://www.football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/mr/mr27/en/

Sahko's estimated value at €5m seems very strange to me. Kinda curious how they came to that figure.