Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2017/2018

corwill

The more replays l see, the worse it gets. Nailed on red, for me.

NukaCola

Pyjamarama wrote: »

Ah I think its a red. Killer and obv he didn't mean to hurt him but it was reckless and dangerous.

corwill wrote: »

The more replays l see, the worse it gets. Nailed on red, for me.

Wouldn't agree entirely......50-50 challenge at the end of the day, is it always a red for a high foot? No malice or weight behind it, no intent. I don't feel robbed or anything, I can understand the red tbh, unlucky IMO.

5starpool

Of course it's a red. No way it'll be rescinded.

That's his rotation sorted anyhow. He would have been rested on Saturday vs Burnley I think, and wouldn't have played in the League Cup anyhow. The main impact is obviously today. Could get ugly now, 3 or 4-0.

Osmosis Jones

If it's not against a goalkeeper there's no chance it's a red.

5starpool

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

If it's not against a goalkeeper there's no chance it's a red.

If it was Fernandinho or Aguero on Mignolet I can guarantee you'd be saying something different.

Osmosis Jones

It's game over already but how the fcuk is our defending so bad, Jesus getting so many headers off, we still have our defence for fcuk sake.

5starpool

I don't want to watch the rest of this game

bur

Matip marking no one for the second, Klavan marking the wrong man. Not one leader at the back.

Benzino

I don't want to be that person, but how we didn't sign a CD is beyond me. This could be a cricket score.

corwill

5starpool wrote: »

I don't want to watch the rest of this game

I incurred a row with Mrs Corwill to get into town to watch this. Should have known no good would come of it.

shamrock55

our defence is the absolute pits

citytillidie

Otamendis yellow was more wreckless

LuckyLloyd

Game doesn't matter now - ref ended it as a contest. Might be 3 or 4 at the end but doesn't matter. On to the next one.

J Mysterio

J Mysterio wrote: »

I think we will batter them!

Fucķ.

NukaCola

Klavan is so below the standard required its infuriating how he gets so many games. Should be no surprise either.

shamrock55

I've said it before and I'll say it again,matip is a pile of dung

jaykay74

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

If it's not against a goalkeeper there's no chance it's a red.

Studs up... into the face? Seriously

klose

Hopefully ederson is OK firstly. I think mane was right to challenge and it was all just an unfortunate accident, no malice intended. I doubt mane was expecting the keeper to come in with a diving header at that height.
No way will we win an appeal on that so it's gonna be a long 3 game suspension but thankfully one is a cup game and he will be grand for the champions league game.
Damage limitations in the game now, shut up shop and hope we don't receive a whopping as can't see us getting back into this.

Osmosis Jones

jaykay74 wrote: »

Studs up... into the face? Seriously

dead serious

ricero

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Game doesn't matter now - ref ended it as a contest. Might be 3 or 4 at the end but doesn't matter. On to the next one.

Exactly my thoughts now

Harry Palmr

Can Mane play in the CL, presumably yes.

Worth mentioning that the ref only gets one look.

NukaCola

Our Midfield was so poor for the first...

jeff bingham

shamrock55 wrote:

I've said it before and I'll say it again,matip is a pile of dung

Jogged back after aguero for the 1st goal. Wouldn't have made it but you have to make the effort on the off chance something happens

citytillidie

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Can Mane play in the CL, presumably yes.

Worth mentioning that the ref only gets one look.

Yes can still play in the champions league he will miss Burley next Saturday and 2 gamesV Leicester

j8wk2feszrnpao

First, I think it was a red. No malice, but you put your boot up that high for a 50/50, you give the ref a choice.

The bigger issue for Liverpool is the defending and not taking chances. Klavan is a disaster waiting to happen in every game. Salah can't finish his dinner most of the time.
Keeper also a problem. Not the biggest issue today, but got it wrong for the offside goal, and should have come when it's swung into that near to him for their second.

This aren't new issues. They've been there a while. Unless they are focused on and corrected, then there'll continue to be weak goals conceded.

5starpool

citytillidie wrote: »

Otamendis yellow was more wreckless

Don't be so daft.

ERG89

Glad im missing the game, nothing positive about it from the look of it.

tayto lover

Definitely a RED card --

Fifa's laws of the game for the 2017-18 season contains the following entry...
"Serious foul play - a tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play."

ricero

ERG89 wrote: »

Glad im missing the game, nothing positive about it from the look of it.

Game was done once Mane was sent off

Gbear

It doesn't matter how many times it happens, people keep deluding themselves in thinking we have enough quality in attack.

City did not look good and we should be currently sitting on a 3 or 4 goal lead in terms of how effective our game plan was against theirs, but we don't have the quality up front to execute it consistently enough.

We didn't make any bigger mistakes in defence than City did. They just have players who are top quality in the box and when given chances take them.

We need to keep hammering away until one goes in by accident or we engineer a chance so easy even we can't miss.
Our mediocre conversion rate is one thing, but more than that, it's the killer instinct around the box in general. We consistently fail to take the right option or fail to properly deliver the killer ball.
We're capable of it but not consistent enough when compared to teams with top class attack players.

The away games against the top 6 are a free shot in my book, and I probably wouldn't even change our lineup if we had a top quality CF because of how effective the busy work and pace in behind has been, but over the course of the season we're going to miss chances our system, or energy and our pressing are effectively putting on a plate for us and it'll continue to cost us points.

It's frustrating after looking forward to it but that's just the way these games go sometimes. Lots more points to play for.

I'm not sure about what the exact rules are, but I think generally the game takes high boot offences far too casually. That should be a red all day long in my book. Can't go around threatening to kick people in the face.

Gbear

klose wrote: »

Hopefully ederson is OK firstly. I think mane was right to challenge and it was all just an unfortunate accident, no malice intended. I doubt mane was expecting the keeper to come in with a diving header at that height.
No way will we win an appeal on that so it's gonna be a long 3 game suspension but thankfully one is a cup game and he will be grand for the champions league game.
Damage limitations in the game now, shut up shop and hope we don't receive a whopping as can't see us getting back into this.

Serious foul play (and I'd imagine that's what the offence was) doesn't necessarily lead to a 3 game ban.

It will probably only be one game.

Osmosis Jones

Why the fcuk would we take Salah off of all people?

shamrock55

bring on the ox,he will save the day😂

NukaCola

Back 3 with Can......last time we done that Stoke scored 6?

One_Of_Shanks

I think it was a red, can't really argue. It was accidental but very dangerous so he had to go.

We were all over the shop at the back anyway so I didn't fancy us to get anything even with 11 on the park to be honest.
You just can't defend like we do and expect the attack to always bail you out

NukaCola

Henderson has been so so poor

shamrock55

Millner infront of a back 3 and bring on studge

5starpool

Gbear wrote: »

Serious foul play (and I'd imagine that's what the offence was) doesn't necessarily lead to a 3 game ban.

It will probably only be one game.

I'll be surprised if it's not 3.

NukaCola

Klavan......awful

NukaCola

5starpool wrote: »

I'll be surprised if it's not 3.

Were you kicked in the face by Mané?

shamrock55

NukaCola wrote: »

Henderson has been so so poor

He can join the cue then can't he

j8wk2feszrnpao

NukaCola wrote: »

Klavan......awful

And not a surprise.
Should play the League Cup games, the odd FA Cup matches, and on the bench for PL games.
But we don't have that 3rd CDF option (I've start Gomez ahead of him) in Klopps opinion.

NukaCola

Did I just see 4 LFC players buzzing around trying to close down and Ox just stroll back?

Gbear

I'm a bit puzzled by the generally negative view of the performance.

We know we're a bit flaky in the final third and in his short career Salah has shown he bottles chances sometimes but in the main we were playing well almost from front to back.

I think people's disappointment is clouding their judgement.

Up until we were caught napping, or even until the sending off, we were comfortably the better and more dangerous side.

Osmosis Jones

Very close to turning this off

klose

Oh **** off henderson, Gerrard wannabe.

Tipsy McSwagger

This is what happens when you don't have any decent defenders

bur

Wonderful ball by Henderson. Then loses his marker to 'make amends'. Such a low footballing IQ.

Fowler87

Henderson disgraceful again there

Harry Palmr

Keita cannot arrive quick enough, Henderson has the captaining gravitas of a feather in a hurricane.