Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2017/2018

murpho999

micks wrote: »

Do you attend their meetings?

No, but I'm expressing an opinion based on past patterns of selling their most valuable players.

murpho999

murpho999 wrote: »

............. past patterns of selling their most valuable players.

Who all were very very very keen to leave iirc.

razorblunt

brevity wrote: »

Im glad Liverpool are standing firm but they would want to start getting wise and fast. Get in a proper football person. Someone to oversee transfers, player management. Succession planning.

How many times has a first team player left the club and not been adequately replaced? There should be a list of players for every position that could be bought should that player leave.

Coutinho wants to go? Grand off you go. Get in 2 or 3 players and keep the train going. Obviously it's not ideal but until Liverpool start winning trophies and start being a force in Europe that's the way it's going to be.

I sure as **** hope Liverpool have back up for Mané as if he keeps up his performances I can see Bayern Munich knocking on the door.

What do you mean by "proper football person", would that be a Harry Redknapp esque character, bread and butter football person, my player is worth 70 billion pound?

Who can be bought on a week's notice knowing a) LFC have the cash and b) the team themselves need to find a replacement for whomever gets sold.

One_Of_Shanks

Was reading somewhere that German teams have traveled 16 times to Anfield in European competition - not one has been able to win there.

That's some stat! (hopefully haven't put the mockers on us saying that)

Vicxas

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Was reading somewhere that German teams have traveled 16 times to Anfield in European competition - not one has been able to win there.

That's some stat! (hopefully haven't put the mockers on us saying that)

Think one of the Interviewers mentioned it to Matip last night that no German team has won at Anfield in 40 years.

PhlegmyMoses

Monchi was available this summer and he seems to be the exact fit for how your board and manager likes to do things from a transfer perspective.

Saw somebody earlier say that you guys should take the money for Coutinho, buy Mahrez and buy Howedes. With the money being offered and the fact that Coutinho is an excellent, albeit inconsistent player, I think that this would be a good deal all round. As long as Barca aren't trying to pay on the never never with a box of chomps and a 6 pack of monster munch.

Chardee MacDennis

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Monchi was available this summer and he seems to be the exact fit for how your board and manager likes to do things from a transfer perspective.

Saw somebody earlier say that you guys should take the money for Coutinho, buy Mahrez and buy Howedes. With the money being offered and the fact that Coutinho is an excellent, albeit inconsistent player, I think that this would be a good deal all round. As long as Barca aren't trying to pay on the never never with a box of chomps and a 6 pack of monster munch.

To say he was available is a bit of a stretch. He had agreed to got to Roma the previous year from what I've seen.

Also Mahrez doesn't have the work ethic for Klopp's system imho.

brevity

razorblunt wrote: »

What do you mean by "proper football person", would that be a Harry Redknapp esque character, bread and butter football person, my player is worth 70 billion pound?

Who can be bought on a week's notice knowing a) LFC have the cash and b) the team themselves need to find a replacement for whomever gets sold.

No I don't mean Harry Redknapp. I mean someone who knows what it takes to keep a football club running smoothly. Someone who is on top of transfers, scouting, player management. Putting a foundation in place so that people aren't running around scrambling when a player like Suarez or Coutinho decides to leave. Juve, Atletico, Porto, BVB are clubs that spring to mind. They are aware that a player will leave so the have succession plans in place.

With this system in place it wouldn't matter who leaves or when. Hell even Klopp could leave but someone would be ear marked as a potential replacement.

Raisins

murpho999 wrote: »

No, but I'm expressing an opinion based on past patterns of selling their most valuable players.

So past patterns are telling you that they won't sell purely because of a fan backlash. My opinion that their decision on coutinho will be based on business and not fan reasons is not valid though because I don't attend fsg business meetings.

5starpool

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

I beg to differ.

See http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73160798&postcount=5 and specifically the section:

"We view the superthreads to be limited to use for general transfer chat [daily rumours etc]/general reserve team chat/general gossip/general pre-season tour chat.

Specific matches, major transfers and major news stories are not the purpose of superthreads. PLEASE keep this discussion to the Match Threads/Matchweek threads or discussion threads that are created. NO MATCH INCIDENT DISCUSSION WILL BE TOLERATED IN SUPERTHREADS."

I know what the charter says, but it's out of date with reality. It was widely discussed in the recent forum feedback thread and the general gist was to discuss away if ye want, but don't get too precious if opposition fans join in. That's what has been the case more and more over the last year anyhow.

machiavellianme

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

To say he was available is a bit of a stretch. He had agreed to got to Roma the previous year from what I've seen.

Also Mahrez doesn't have the work ethic for Klopp's system imho.

Exactly, it was blatantly obvious in the Asia trophy match that he gives about 50 or so percent unless the humour takes him. You'd think he'd have been trying to play out of his skin when in the shop window to try and find a suitor?

Plus, he's even more inconsistent than Phil.

J Mysterio

Knex. wrote: »

Naples fans are also a lot more... unforgiving, we'll say, than Liverpool fans.

Speak for yourself. I hold a grudge as good as anybody!

rossie1977

I wouldn't read too much into stats. Liverpool had only ever won twice in something like last 18 visits to Germany prior to last week

x43r0

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

I don't think I've ever made a match thread before!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057778793

rgace

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Saw somebody earlier say that you guys should take the money for Coutinho, buy Mahrez and buy Howedes. With the money being offered and the fact that Coutinho is an excellent, albeit inconsistent player, I think that this would be a good deal all round.

Something like that will probably happen next Summer, however at the moment it makes more sense for Liverpool to buy Howdes and keep Coutinho.

marklazarcovic

If we get knocked out tonight I can see it happening tbh,Phil going

Dickerty

marklazarcovic wrote: »

If we get knocked out tonight I can see it happening tbh,Phil going

That makes no sense - we'd find it even harder to attract a quality replacement, and he already wants to leave when CL looks likely!

Blackhorse Slim

Any chance we get drawn in Barca's group in the CL, if we make it?

Agent Coulson

Nailed on to be drawn in Barca's group if we qualify.

5starpool

Blackhorse Slim wrote: »

Any chance we get drawn in Barca's group in the CL, if we make it?

Probably about a one in 5 shot.

One_Of_Shanks

Blackhorse Slim wrote: »

Any chance we get drawn in Barca's group in the CL, if we make it?

Yep, or our pals from Red Bull! Good breakdown in the link below of which teams are in which pot (with a few permutations still to be sorted tonight obviously).

If we qualify, we could potentially end up with Barcelona, Juventus and Celtic, that'd be some craic.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/22/who-can-manchester-united-chelsea-tottenham-and-man-city-draw-in-the-champions-league-group-stages-6871090/

Benimar

Blackhorse Slim wrote: »

Any chance we get drawn in Barca's group in the CL, if we make it?

Officially a 1 in 6 chance (we can't get Man City or Man Utd), but realistically it's 1/100!

Ste-

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Yep, or our pals from Red Bull!

Or both!

Osmosis Jones

I don't even know why Barca want Coutinho his free kicks are shíte and he can't even play left back, they should get Milner.

citytillidie

Pot 1
Real Madrid (ESP)
Bayern München (GER)
Juventus (ITA)
Benfica (POR)
Chelsea (ENG)
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)
Monaco (FRA)
Spartak Moskva (RUS)

Pot 2
Barcelona (ESP)
Atlético Madrid (ESP)
Paris Saint-Germain (FRA)
Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Sevilla (ESP)
Manchester City (ENG)
Porto (POR)
Manchester United (ENG)

Pot 3
Napoli (ITA)
Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)
Basel (SUI)
Olympiacos (GRE)
Anderlecht (BEL)
Liverpool FC (ENG)
Roma (ITA)
Beşiktaş (TUR)

Pot 4
Celtic (SCO)
Feyenoord (NED)
Maribor (SVN)
RB Leipzig (GER)
Qarabağ (AZE)
APOEL (CYP)
CSKA Moskva (RUS)
FCSB (ROU)

Going by 1st leg results this is how the pots could finish

So Liverpool could end up with
Juventus (ITA)
Barcelona (ESP)
Liverpool FC (ENG)
RB Leipzig (GER)

But you have to remember that teams will be paired up in each country for tv and this will also effect the draw so say Liverpool are paired with Man Utd they will be on different sides of the group counts so they do not play on the same night same with Real and Barca so there is a bigger chance one of them will be drawn together.

5starpool

Real Madrid, PSG, Liverpool, Leipzig.

Fromvert

You're a pack of jinxs predicting possible groups

5starpool

Fromvert wrote: »

You're a pack of jinxs predicting possible groups

Real Madrid, PSG, Napoli, Hoffenheim

That better?

TitianGerm

Pot 1 isn't to bad. You'd fancy us to do well against Benfica, Shakhtar or Spartak.

Pot 2 isn't great and you'd hope for Porto or Seville.

marklazarcovic

Dickerty wrote: »

That makes no sense - we'd find it even harder to attract a quality replacement, and he already wants to leave when CL looks likely!

ya but we wont get champions league dosh either

Pepp1989

Please please please stop discussing what group we will get before we have even qualified. It's too close!!

Knex*

Anyone up for a Europa League group discussion?

Dickerty

Knex. wrote: »

Anyone up for a Europa League group discussion?

I'd take FC Tuk Tuk, Butenaspor and Barcelona (from Uzbek)

Gbear

SlickRic wrote: »

for those who think Liverpool fans shouldn't be annoyed with Coutinho in all of this; take a look at how Lorenzo Insigne handled rumours about him going to Barcelona.



That is how you do it.

It is if you're from the town your club's based in.

Naples are his boyhood club.

It's a totally different situation and it doesn't really work as a means to have a dig at Coutinho.

citytillidie

Knex. wrote: »

Anyone up for a Europa League group discussion?

Someone else can go hunting for what the pots could look like lol no were as near settled yet

D'Agger

5starpool wrote: »

Probably about a one in 5 shot.

Coutihnos goals to shots rate #Illuminati

smileyj1987

Turtyturd wrote: »

Definitely intentional, I'm guessing the reason he isn't playing is that Liverpool fear a pitch invasion from President Pique' to put a Barcelona jersey on him.

Id stick him on for a minute tonight to let the world know he aint going anywhere

marklazarcovic

Maybe instead of rejecting barcas nxt offer instantly we wait,we say nothing,leak that we are maybe,just maybe,.. floundering,afraid to reject this mega offer from the mega club. The press will go mad and do the work for us.

Then,on the last day,at 9pm.. statement.

"Oh sorry!! We thought we made it clear weeks ago,he's not for sale this summer,didn't think we needed to respond again soz Barca"

Agent Coulson

Sakho has long agreed personal terms with Palace according to Melissa Reddy.


Just down to the club now agreeing terms.

Knex*

marklazarcovic wrote: »

Maybe instead of rejecting barcas nxt offer instantly we wait,we say nothing,leak that we are maybe,just maybe,.. floundering,afraid to reject this mega offer from the mega club. The press will go mad and do the work for us.

Then,on the last day,at 9pm.. statement.

"Oh sorry!! We thought we made it clear weeks ago,he's not for sale this summer,didn't think we needed to respond again soz Barca"

Or we keep telling them we want Neymar as part of the deal. That'll surely **** with them.

Knex*

Some lad on reddit did a post analysing all corner goals we've conceded since last season

https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/6vjmlw/so_i_decided_to_analyze_every_single_corner_goal/

LuckyLloyd

This latest offer would allow Liverpool a net profit (including wages paid to date) on Coutinho that is in excess of 10% of the net value of the club.

I'll understand if FSG pull the trigger.

Umaro

https://twitter.com/skykaveh/status/900373937934266369

mosstin

Umaro wrote: »

https://twitter.com/skykaveh/status/900373937934266369

Cue Arsenal's £150,000,001 bid.

mosstin

Moreno starts again. :mad:

paulie21

Same team as first leg

ricero

An early liverpool goal would settle the nerves big time

Vicxas

Bloody Moreno again....

Harry Palmr

Origi better look out, already down to forth choice as the sharp end. Though third in truth as Firmino is quite different in his role to the rest.

Gbear

We'll just bloody win, irrespective of how many Moreno's we have to endure.

It'll be fine.

Really.