Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2017/2018

Harry Palmr

Could be something, could be nothing but Renato Sanches was left out of the BM match squad today at his request.

54and56

5starpool wrote: »

What it showed is that he's fully committed this season, whether it is his last or not. Proper order. As said earlier, apart from the fact that we're not getting a transfer fee (bad) I prefer players to do things this way rather than act like spoilt brats when clubs won't let them move in the middle of contracts.

And likewise people shouldn't bitch and moan when a player who gives an honest effort throughout his contract chooses to walk away on a free at the end of his contract and agree terms with a new club as Can may do in January.

Yes?

daithijjj

shamrock55 wrote: »

The way can celebrated his 2 goals the last night he certainly doesn't look like a lad who wants out to me tbh

The old cynic in me would counter that by saying, that it may be possible that CL qualifiers are great places to put in a shift when you have only a handful of days left where a club might lose all value on you.

Contract negotiations have been known to summon extra spirit in a player.

5starpool

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

And likewise people shouldn't bitch and moan when a player who gives an honest effort throughout his contract chooses to walk away on a free at the end of his contract and agree terms with a new club as Can may do in January.

Yes?

That's exactly what I said isn't it?

davyboy1975

Van dijk has changed agents apparently to force a move away according to the independent

sword1

He seems more trouble than he is worth, regularly changing agents is another sign of the diva in vvd

Agent Coulson

Klopp say Origi is going nowhere.

davyboy1975

Dominic King‏Verified account @DominicKing_DM 23s23 seconds ago
Crystal Palace more hopeful they can wrap up deal for Mamadou Sakho this week. He is their main priority, all funds set aside to sign him.

mosstin

Watching Palace vs Swansea. They definitely need a Sakho type player. Dreadful at the back and for both of their goals today another ex Red - Martin Kelly - was culpable.

BorneTobyWilde

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Klopp say Origi is going nowhere.

I think if he plays him more he can go somewhere, maybe not start but can contribute.

Je_suis_Jean

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

And likewise people shouldn't bitch and moan when a player who gives an honest effort throughout his contract chooses to walk away on a free at the end of his contract and agree terms with a new club as Can may do in January.

Yes?

Honest effort throughput the contract is debatable! I like Can and I really hope he stays but he's not been the most consistent player we've had. He's definitely improved a lot in recent times for sure.

Harry Palmr

davyboy1975 wrote: »

Dominic King‏Verified account @DominicKing_DM 23s23 seconds ago
Crystal Palace more hopeful they can wrap up deal for Mamadou Sakho this week. He is their main priority, all funds set aside to sign him.

Good stuff, was thinking about the transfers out watching the Palace highlights just then.

Markovic is still at the club and I've not heard a peep since July and Watford I think it was,
Flanno likewise.
Ojo is on loan at Fulham
Kent might go out

Who else could leave be it for good or loan?

NukaCola

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Good stuff, was thinking about the transfers out watching the Palace highlights just then.

Markovic is still at the club and I've not heard a peep since July and Watford I think it was,
Flanno likewise.
Ojo is on loan at Fulham
Kent might go out

Who else could leave be it for good or loan?

Ward? loan probably.

Turtyturd

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Klopp say Origi is going nowhere.

Reports of Origi being out with a back injury.

Harry Palmr

There are no end of reports - that one about Mig being ill is BS

https://twitter.com/HLNinEngeland/status/901543412100464642

jesus_thats_gre

ricero wrote: »

FSG i reckon would love us to become the new arsenal. Get top 4 and champions league every season but never invest too much thus we will never challenge for major honors

Don't underestimate this view imo.

ERG89

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

Don't underestimate this view imo.

I wouldn't anyway. We're not challenging for nothing this year bar domestic trophies & top 4.
When you stumble over the line like we did last year & only buy Salah to improve the first team going into the CL it doesn't overwhelm me with ambition.
I don't buy into Klopp not wanting alternative targets as much as I do Coutinho's back injury as most of our signings have had to been that anyway.
I would probably take 4th again in a heartbeat now given the extra games we have but I feel it'll be ourselves & Arsenal will miss out.

McGregor fanboys taking that defeat badly.


Anyway, big game today. I reckon another goalfest.

klose

RoboKlopp wrote: »

McGregor fanboys taking that defeat badly.


Anyway, big game today. I reckon another goalfest.

I've a passing interest in both sports at best but it seems plainly obvious that this was just a massive cash grab for both parties and fooled their audiences into thinking it was a serious event?

Benimar

Belgian journalist Kristof Terreur reporting that Mignolet isn't in the squad, but he isn't injured or ill. Karius will start.

klose

klose wrote: »

I've a passing interest in both sports at best but it seems plainly obvious that this was just a massive cash grab for both parties and fooled their audiences into thinking it was a serious event?

Yeah, that's it really.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Benimar wrote: »

Belgian journalist Kristof Terreur reporting that Mignolet isn't in the squad, but he isn't injured or ill. Karius will start.

Hopefully Barca offered 100mil for him...

Turtyturd

klose wrote: »

I've a passing interest in both sports at best but it seems plainly obvious that this was just a massive cash grab for both parties and fooled their audiences into thinking it was a serious event?

Not saying you're doing it but it's actually funny that a lot of the Mc Gregor fanboys are of that opinion now that he has lost, while up until yesterday they were fully convinced of the validity of the fight and that Mc Gregor would win.

Harry Palmr

So then why would you rest Mig for this game. Does Klopp think Arsenal are unlikely to offer much thread from set-pieces and he is worst with them? Maybe.

Turtyturd

I doubt it. They're very similar to a United these days in that they try Plan B for 70 minutes and then if it's not successful revert to plan A of long balls into Fellaini/Giroud.

I'd expect our keeper to have to deal with a bit of that.

corwill

Benimar wrote: »

Belgian journalist Kristof Terreur reporting that Mignolet isn't in the squad, but he isn't injured or ill. Karius will start.

I wonder who's signing him?

Kerrigooney

Mig has been doing grand lately. karius has looked terrible any time I've seen him. This is a very big worry.

ERG89

Benimar wrote:

Belgian journalist Kristof Terreur reporting that Mignolet isn't in the squad, but he isn't injured or ill. Karius will start.

Damn if that is true wtf is going on. A player on strike, another 1 or 2 in excile & now this.

mosstin

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Mig has been doing grand lately. karius has looked terrible any time I've seen him. This is a very big worry.

It just seems utterly unnecessary. Poor as he is, Mignolet has been solid lately. Add to this the fact that it's a huge match against a Top 6 rival, introducing Karius, who's far from competent just doesn't make any sense.

Milkers

Slightly off topic but can someone with knowledge of the TV deals explain to me why Sky are showing West Brom v Stoke at 1:30 today instead of the Chelsea Everton game, cheers.

mosstin

The transfer window can't shut soon enough. Reports yesterday that VVD had sacked his agent in order to push through a transfer to Liverpool. Dominic King tweeted this morning that VVD's with the same agent as before, that nothing has changed.
Regardless of who we sign/don't sign, a summer full of endless speculation, baseless rumours etc is almost at an end. Thank Christ.

mosstin

Milkers wrote: »

Slightly off topic but can someone with knowledge of the TV deals explain to me why Sky are showing West Brom v Stoke at 1:30 today instead of the Chelsea Everton game, cheers.

As part of the TV deal, I'd imagine that all PL clubs have to be featured a certain number of times. This is probably Sky getting two pretty unwatchable teams out of the way early doors before matches take on greater significance.

SuperTortoise

Milkers wrote: »

Slightly off topic but can someone with knowledge of the TV deals explain to me why Sky are showing West Brom v Stoke at 1:30 today instead of the Chelsea Everton game, cheers.

Could be to do with the tv crowd only allowed to show one team a set number of times in a season, maybe the feel they'll hold on to those credits for a bigger chelsea game?

Edit: Or what mosstin said ^

NukaCola

Mig must be tired from all the standing around he had to do vs Hoffenheim.......I have no trust in Karius.....in fact, a backline that includes him Lovren and Moreno might just ruin my day.....

Agent Coulson

Mignolet came back as a solid keeper after being dropped the last time.


Maybe Klopp thinks dropping this time he will return as a world class keeper.


Odd decision to drop him as he as been one of our best players this season so far.

Kerrigooney

Looks like I'm gonna miss today's game. Balls.

NukaCola

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Mignolet came back as a solid keeper after being dropped the last time.


Maybe Klopp thinks dropping this time he will return as a world class keeper.


Odd decision to drop him as he as been one of our best players this season so far.

Think he's getting sloppy again IMO, 7 goals conceded in 4 games, not all his fault but could have done better in a few of those situations.....lots of the old stuff coming back into his game too, poor distribution, handling errors, switching off.....I wouldn't class him as being one of our best players this season, but still wouldn't drop him...

mosstin

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Looks like I'm gonna miss today's game. Balls.

Simon?

Turtyturd

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Looks like I'm gonna miss today's game. Balls.

Off to Barcelona?

Vicxas

Im so confused as to why Mignolet has been dropped.

brevity

Could be a personal issue? Might not be anything to read into.

NukaCola

He's on strike until Phil gets his dream move.......Even if he was rested he'd be on the bench, seems very weird to me that he's not in the squad (as reported) unless he's been given an undeserved break.

ERG89

NukaCola wrote:

lI have no trust in Karius.....in fact, a backline that includes him Lovren and Moreno might just ruin my day.....

Play Danny Ward ta fu*k

NukaCola

Turtyturd wrote: »

Hopefully this isn't a repeat of 'The Rodgers' starting Brad 'I'll just dive the wrong way' Jones against United.

That kind of man management pushed him on to be a league winner...

NukaCola

ERG89 wrote: »

Play Danny Ward ta fu*k

I would, absolutely.....he deserves a shot at number 1, certainly over Karius.

bennyineire

Lads will ye calm down, wait until team is announced. People here seem to take it as gospel that he is dropped due to 1 dodge source

5starpool

Karius is absolute guaranteed calamity. Weird if true.

Harry Palmr

bennyineire wrote: »

Lads will ye calm down, wait until team is announced. People here seem to take it as gospel that he is dropped due to 1 dodge source

Belgian website story here says Mig is demanding a meeting with Klopp about this.

http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/voetbal/buitenland/Engeland/1.3055522#

with terrible translation

Simon Mignolet is not at the heart of Liverpool for the top player against Arsenal. However, the Belgian goalkeeper is not injured, but he must take Jürgen Klopp off duty. Mignolet's entourage wants more explanation from the trainer. A transfer is not at all for the time being.
At the last training session for the match yesterday, Mignolet noted that he was not in the basics, where our national goalkeeper asked Klopp to explain.

The German trainer told him that he had a rest for a day and had to stay home. Mignolet was very surprised and found that he did not need any rest after almost two weeks. All the more because there is now an interlandbreak where he usually does not have to play. And because the team and himself are in a good flow.

Klopp kept his foot in hand: he immediately chose for his compatriot Loris Karius. However, the goalkeeper's entourage does not include this and wants to explain Klopp and the board. What's high is that there are not 4 to 5 players left to a lesser opponent, but it's only about Mignolet going against a direct competitor.

brevity

A guy on Reddit has said this might be the reason:

Karius is waaaaaaay more confident playing a sweeper keeper than migs. My best guess is we are going to play a very high line to try and box them in and reduce the space in the midfield to allow us to win the ball back quicker.

Turtyturd

If that's the case surely he'd be on the bench.