Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2017/2018

brevity

Definitely too soon.

BorneTobyWilde

I dunno what is suppose to happen when Moreno is in the arms of the opposing keeper, is Henderson suppose to notice? Is he suppose to engage his brain and fill that hole, he never does, it's left exposed and it then drags Lovern out of position and leave Matip exposed, it's a domino effect.
I thought Henderson would fill that hole as soon as we lose it, and Wiji would fill Hendersons hole while Can fills Wiji's hole. It never happens though.
Moreno bombs forward and even when it breaks down Moreno, the clown that he is, continues his run forward as if the crowd will applaud the effort. He actually will continue to carry on his run all the way to the opposing keeper even though opposition has won ball back 3 seconds ago. The guy clearly is not mentally right, not a lot up stairs.

BorneTobyWilde

I can imagine Moreno when he knows he's named in side acting like that kid in the An Post Address pal commercial

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Umaro

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

...and Wiji would fill Hendersons hole while Can fills Wiji's hole.

brevity

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I dunno what is suppose to happen when Moreno is in the arms of the opposing keeper, is Henderson suppose to notice? Is he suppose to engage his brain and fill that hole, he never does, it's left exposed and it then drags Lovern out of position and leave Matip exposed, it's a domino effect.
I thought Henderson would fill that hole as soon as we lose it, and Wiji would fill Hendersons hole while Can fills Wiji's hole. It never happens though.
Moreno bombs forward and even when it breaks down Moreno, the clown that he is, continues his run forward as if the crowd will applaud the effort. He actually will continue to carry on his run all the way to the opposing keeper even though opposition has won ball back 3 seconds ago. The guy clearly is not mentally right, not a lot up stairs.

Homoeroticism aside, this is a valid point.

If Moreno has gone forward, then one of Hendo/Can/Winaldjum should help Lovren. They should all move in sync but the players seem to be all over the place.

Its clear what Klopp is trying to do but he's doing it with the wrong players.

PhuckHugh

Has Coutinho gone on strike? If so, let the fcuker rot I say. What a little prcik.

Vicxas

PhuckHugh wrote: »

Has Coutinho gone on strike? If so, let the fcuker rot I say. What a little prcik.

What in gods name are you on about

x43r0

brevity wrote: »

https://twitter.com/lfckyran/status/897137203738030081

Which one of ye is it?

That was hilarious and depressing at the same time

ricero

Vicxas wrote: »

What in gods name are you on about

Reports today hes gone on strike and says he wont play again for lfc

Knex*

ricero wrote: »

Reports today hes gone on strike and says he wont play again for lfc

Following Dembele's footsteps, if true.

Barca, more than a club...

punk_one82

ricero wrote: »

Reports today hes gone on strike and says he wont play again for lfc

In all fairness, a quick google has The Mirror and another **** rag reporting it. Hardly credible sources.

dogbert27

ricero wrote: »

Reports today hes gone on strike and says he wont play again for lfc

Idiot if true.

Ok Phil, go on strike for the next 4 and a half years of your contract. Good luck with getting in to next years world cup squad.

Agent Coulson

Going on strike didn't work for us with VVD.

NukaCola

Knex. wrote: »

Following Dembele's footsteps, if true.

Barca, more than a club...

Barca DNA....

Mr.H

murpho999 wrote:

Picking out isolated incidents with an 18 year old TAA do not compare.

So picking out the person who cost us the goal isn't more beneficial than talking about two players who didn't?

I'm not saying we should slate him by the way. Just saying that you can't talk sh1t about two players and ignore as different player who actually coat us a goal

Tusky

Transfer window closes two weeks from tomorrow and I don't see any bids going in for defensive players. What's going on?

The squad we put out last night was much more Europa League than Champions League. So disappointing that we haven't made progress.

NukaCola

Mr.H wrote: »

So picking out the person who cost us the goal isn't more beneficial than talking about two players who didn't?

I'm not saying we should slate him by the way. Just saying that you can't talk sh1t about two players and ignore as different player who actually coat us a goal

Lovren was a yard deeper than anyone for the goal. If he had pushed up then TAA wouldn't have been in that situation but he was ball watching as usual. TAA/Matip should have done better though I agree.

brevity

I don't really blame Barca in this, sure they have a part but there are other factors at play as well.

Vicxas

ricero wrote: »

Reports today hes gone on strike and says he wont play again for lfc

"Reports in Spain"


Where's that truckload of salt i ordered

In other news we're linked with Lucas Moura too

ricero

Tusky wrote: »

Transfer window closes two weeks from tomorrow and I don't see any bids going in for defensive players. What's going on?

The squad we put out last night was much more Europa League than Champions League. So disappointing that we haven't made progress.

Cant make heads nor tails of it myself. Does the club have to sell coutinho in order to buy ?

Something stinks and it aint my underwear during the game last night

Mr.H

NukaCola wrote:

Lovren was a yard deeper than anyone for the goal. If he had pushed up then TAA wouldn't have been in that situation but he was ball watching as usual. TAA/Matip should have done better though I agree.

TAA would have stopped that goal regardless of Lovren if he tried to clear it instead if waiting for the linesman to do his job.

I believe Trent will improve by the way. I think the kid could actually force his way past clyne if he keeps up his performances.

I just get these cringe moments when I see people talk so badly about Moreno without even thinking that he has been our best left back since JAR. That's a sad thought of course but it's true.

murpho999

Mr.H wrote: »

So picking out the person who cost us the goal isn't more beneficial than talking about two players who didn't?

I'm not saying we should slate him by the way. Just saying that you can't talk sh1t about two players and ignore as different player who actually coat us a goal

You've picked one incident with a young lad who is still learning his craft at this level.

He also scored a goal that helped us win the game.

Compare this to the litany of errors that Lovren and Moreno have made in their LFC careers.

Not just those that have led to goals, of which there are many but those mistimed tackles leading to penalties and free kicks, poor clearances, poor passing that have played our on team into trouble, numerous incidents of Moreno being in the wrong position, lack of communication with the keeper leading to confusion.

There is a pattern of that over 3 seasons that far outweigh TAA's error last night.

I do not see how any Liverpool supporter could be happy to have the two of them as our back four for the whole season and not want them replaced with better players.

jasonb

I'm definitely no expert in tactics and positioning, but there was one play last night where even I was thinking 'what's Moreno doing?'.

It was in the second half and a ball came in from left mid I think, towards our penalty area. Moreno was between his man and the goal, and he looked to see where his man was, and then started running, tracking the ball. He never went for the ball, and he never looked at his man again. It was like he assumed the ball was going out for a goal kick, and he was just going to follow it. So, he kept on running back towards the goal line, never once noticing that his man, who had been behind him, had cut inside and was actually going for the ball! Thankfully the Hoffenheim player miscontrolled it, but it was woeful to watch, like he decided to run a certain direction at a certain speed, no matter what the ball or the player was doing.

Dickerty

jasonb wrote: »

I'm definitely no expert in tactics and positioning, but there was one play last night where even I was thinking 'what's Moreno doing?'.

It was in the second half and a ball came in from left mid I think, towards our penalty area. Moreno was between his man and the goal, and he looked to see where his man was, and then started running, tracking the ball. He never went for the ball, and he never looked at his man again. It was like he assumed the ball was going out for a goal kick, and he was just going to follow it. So, he kept on running back towards the goal line, never once noticing that his man, who had been behind him, had cut inside and was actually going for the ball! Thankfully the Hoffenheim player miscontrolled it, but it was woeful to watch, like he decided to run a certain direction at a certain speed, no matter what the ball or the player was doing.

Moreno run fast. Moreno kick hard. Moreno GOOD!

Buford T. Justice XIX

Mr.H wrote: »

TAA would have stopped that goal regardless of Lovren if he tried to clear it instead if waiting for the linesman to do his job.

I believe Trent will improve by the way. I think the kid could actually force his way past clyne if he keeps up his performances.

I just get these cringe moments when I see people talk so badly about Moreno without even thinking that he has been our best left back since JAR. That's a sad thought of course but it's true.

rob316

Not linked to single player...depressing

Agent Coulson

Vicxas wrote: »

"Reports in Spain"


Where's that truckload of salt i ordered

In other news we're linked with Lucas Moura too

For Moura, Draxler and Cavani I'd give them Coutinho.

Sappy404

Isn't Moura great mates with Neymar?

marklazarcovic

How about,no more attackers get signed untill we sign defensive upgrades,be it at dm ,cb,lb,...gk least urgent of those.

I'm good with that.

dogbert27

The main problem for the goal is at this point. The player has 6 options ahead of him and all the time in the world to pick one out. Mane not closing down the man quickly enough.

Lovren and Moreno both too deep allowing 2 players on side from the long ball.

The entire midfield ball watching.

Harry Palmr

Ojo loan to Fulham official. Ojo sold to Fulham and Sessegnon in 30m move to Liverpool 2018!

Agent Coulson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ojo loan to Fulham official. Ojo sold to Fulham and Sessegnon in 30m move to Liverpool 2018!

Welcome to yesterday.:P

Agent Coulson

Southampton have made an official bid for Lazio CB Wesley Hoedt.

Riesen_Meal

Large truck of salt please :



http://www.liverpool-rumours.co.uk/maccaliverpoolrumours.php

16 Aug 2017 12:44:43

The only info i have is as follows.

The Keita info is 100 percent correct, i know for a fact that he is looking for a property in the north west, a representative from the club has been in touch, why would that be the case if a deal wasnt close, this was last week and not before.

The general concensus within is VVD will still happen, again i believe it will.

The noise from within the club is that Coutinho will stay, but who knows what will happen if we sign the other 2?

The other player that also has a chance is the Ox, but wait and see.

It wouldnt suprise me if the club are wating to see if we qualify first before spending the money, very cynical of me but would not suprise me one bit.

We are very very short of quality within the squad and i would be amazed if things dont change before the end of August.

This is all the info i have, trust me i hope it happens, because we need it.

I am not ITK or on twitter or trying gain any form of notoriety, i just happen to know people, people who know .

And i get many things wrong, but i just pass on what i am told and i get told from top top people, trust me but the football world can change very very quickly .

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Macca.

Knex*

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Southampton have made an official bid for Lazio CB Wesley Hoedt.

If Southampton are being knobs about not selling VVD to us, we should genuinely just sign Hoedt.

1. He's actually fairly decent.
2. Annoys Southampton more.

Turtyturd

Decent decent or decent playing in Italy decent?

Sappy404

Knex. wrote: »

If Southampton are being knobs about not selling VVD to us, we should genuinely just sign Hoedt.

1. He's actually fairly decent.
2. Annoys Southampton more.

We should put in a bid and leak it to the press. Just to see what happens.

Sappy404

Fieldog wrote: »

Large truck of salt please :



http://www.liverpool-rumours.co.uk/maccaliverpoolrumours.php

16 Aug 2017 12:44:43

The only info i have is as follows.

The Keita info is 100 percent correct, i know for a fact that he is looking for a property in the north west, a representative from the club has been in touch, why would that be the case if a deal wasnt close, this was last week and not before.

The general concensus within is VVD will still happen, again i believe it will.

The noise from within the club is that Coutinho will stay, but who knows what will happen if we sign the other 2?

The other player that also has a chance is the Ox, but wait and see.

It wouldnt suprise me if the club are wating to see if we qualify first before spending the money, very cynical of me but would not suprise me one bit.

We are very very short of quality within the squad and i would be amazed if things dont change before the end of August.

This is all the info i have, trust me i hope it happens, because we need it.

I am not ITK or on twitter or trying gain any form of notoriety, i just happen to know people, people who know .

And i get many things wrong, but i just pass on what i am told and i get told from top top people, trust me but the football world can change very very quickly .

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Macca.

Hubris got us into the VvD mess. If anyone is still this confident at the club that he will sign, I'd be surprised. And worried, frankly, as at this stage we should just put in a bid and draw a line if we get rebuffed.

dogbert27

Sappy404 wrote: »

We should put in a bid and leak it to the press. Just to see what happens.

Yeah 15 million plus 1 pound :pac:

Knex*

Turtyturd wrote: »

Decent decent or decent playing in Italy decent?

Probably Italy decent, tbh... He's not actually a guaranteed starter for Lazio, but he's relatively young yet. They just signed Wallace in the summer which is why they're likely to allow him to leave.

If we were really going for a Lazio defender you'd likely want it to be De Vrij, although his injury history is a worry. You could argue that De Vrij has shown more ability than VVD, tbh.

Knex*

Spurs signing Aurier from PSG. He'll fit nicely into that defence, although possibly a bit harsh on Trippier if he loses his spot (albeit injured at the moment). Kyle Walker-Peters was excellent at the weekend, too.

I'd actually kill for their defence, and the depth they have. Night and day to our own.

Sappy404

Southampton chairman saying VvD is not for sale this window. I hope the club takes him at his word and we move on - soon.

Knex*

https://twitter.com/SimonPeach/status/897839255229259776

Harry Palmr

Keita dead, VVD dead, everyone is dead.

ricero

Time to move on like we should have weeks ago. Laporte would be who i would go for or bring sakho back

Vicxas

Liverpool fans. We never have it easy do we

martyos121

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Keita dead, VVD dead, everyone is dead.

Moreno did it.

ERG89

Sappy404 wrote:

Southampton chairman saying VvD is not for sale this window. I hope the club takes him at his word and we move on - soon.

Despite us being nailed on to sign him the way sky were talking we never even bid for Van Dijk.
Club will probably sign nobody tbh.

Agent Coulson

Back in for him in January and maybe by then he will have some games under his belt and proved his fitness after being out for 8 months.

£60m on a lad who hasn't play through injury since January was always crazy.

ERG89

ERG89 wrote: »

..............
Club will probably sign nobody tbh.

:eek:

We'll sign someone surely.
Klavan/Gomez 3rd choice CB with Matip & Lovren our starters heading into CL and PL campaigns, frightening.