Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2017/2018

NukaCola

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

I agree that we need a CB now, and I felt the same way about the LB situation last summer, but Klopp did prove people wrong with Milner at LB. Towards the end of the season he definitely ran out of steam (along with the rest of the squad) but Milner at LB worked.

LB isn't as crucial position in our system unlike CB IMO.

ricero

Is paul joyce a spoofer ? where was he going saying last night that the club were to spend 175 million pounds today ?

Its **** like this that brings out the anger in us supporters when we are let down again in a transfer window

NukaCola

~Rebel~ wrote: »

So the only hope really is that Gomez shows a level of quality and consistency at centre back that he hasn't shown before.

And tbh, I dont think we should be putting ourselves willingly into this position.

Osmosis Jones

SlickRic

Ballague says we were never in for Lamar.

NukaCola

SlickRic wrote: »

Ballague says we were never in for Lamar.

So we were definitely in for him.....

Kimbot

ricero wrote: »

Is paul joyce a spoofer ? where was he going saying last night that the club were to spend 175 million pounds today ?

Its **** like this that brings out the anger in us supporters when we are let down again in a transfer window

Why on earth are you taking his word as gospel? If he was our CEO then I would say fair enough. Only those in the club know what we have to spend.

ballyargus

Sky saying VVD is staying at Southampton

Turtyturd

ricero wrote: »

Is paul joyce a spoofer ? where was he going saying last night that the club were to spend 175 million pounds today ?

Its **** like this that brings out the anger in us supporters when we are let down again in a transfer window

Tbf you're the only one to blame for you acting like a spoilt child for the last 3 months, not journalists.

Rekop dog

The whole someone posts Ballague info and then someone else posts "oh must be the opposite then" schtick is tiresome at this stage.

NukaCola

Rekop dog wrote: »

The whole someone posts Ballague info and then someone else posts "oh must be the opposite then" schtick is tiresome at this stage.

Must be not tiresome so.......

Doodoo

Rekop dog wrote: »

The whole someone posts Ballague info and then someone else posts "oh must be the opposite then" schtick is tiresome at this stage.

+£1

NukaCola

Doodoo wrote: »

+£1

-£1

MD1990

We may have to play Can at CB if we get injuries at CB both Matip & Lovren pick up injuries so does Gomez.

Talisman

Dickerty wrote: »

He can't have a medical without agreeing that with Southampton. We already had to apologize for making an illegal approach, what would we have to do for doing a medical without permission?

It wasn't an illegal approach - several clubs including Liverpool were given permission by Southampton to speak to the player.

Southampton were furious because the leaked transfer story was everywhere and they were being railroaded into the transfer 'deal'. Their complaint didn't name him per se but it didn't take a genius to figure out that the former player and current member of the club staff referred to was Gerrard.

Everything was fine until quotes from Steven Gerrard appeared at the beginning of June and became the basis for every media outlet's story regarding the transfer. Details included how Liverpool expected to pay up to £60M for the transfer fee, a £200K a week salary had been agreed, the player had chosen Liverpool over Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd etc. Former players and media personalities were talking about it as though it was a done deal despite the fact that the transfer fee was not agreed - Southampton felt they were being bullied into selling the player and reacted accordingly.

Gerrard should have kept his mouth shut - it's possible that we might learn at a later date that he had assumed that the conversation with the journalist was off the record or that he didn't realise the volume of detail they would include in the story.

The public apology by the club was an effort to smooth things over with Southampton and the Premier League enquiry found that Liverpool had done nothing wrong.

Benimar

ballyargus wrote: »

Sky saying VVD is staying at Southampton

I normally don't get too up or down over who we sign or miss out on, but this has really pissed me off. He is the player we needed this summer and we could have given the league a right rattle with him (and Coutinho staying)

Now it's back to playing for the top 4 trophy

Lovren just simply isn't good enough.

awec

No CB coming in is incredibly daft. We have had all summer to strengthen a very glaring and obvious weakness in the squad.

Benimar

MD1990 wrote: »

We may have to play Can at CB if we get injuries at CB both Matip & Lovren pick up injuries so does Gomez.

Ah now, in fairness, what team has a quality 5th choice CB??

Grayditch

Rekop dog wrote: »

The whole someone posts Ballague info and then someone else posts "oh must be the opposite then" schtick is tiresome at this stage.

+£1

magma69

Can see a stop gap loan happening in January. 

MD1990 wrote: »

We may have to play Can at CB if we get injuries at CB both Matip & Lovren pick up injuries so does Gomez.

Harry Palmr

ricero wrote: »

Is paul joyce a spoofer ? where was he going saying last night that the club were to spend 175 million pounds today ?

Its **** like this that brings out the anger in us supporters when we are let down again in a transfer window

Do you ever read beyond the headline? That is the work of the sub-editor and designed to get as many credulous eyeballs as possible.

If you read the body of the article you'll see caveats.

"Liverpool are prepared to pay more than £70 million pounds for Lemar and a similar sum for Virgil Van Dijk the Southampton centre-back, although both clubs have indicated they do not want to sell"

"interest in Lemar, is complicated by Monaco's reluctance to lose another prize asset leave..."

messinkiapina

MD1990 wrote: »

We may have to play Can at CB if we get injuries at CB both Matip & Lovren pick up injuries so does Gomez.

That will definitely convince him to sign a new contract.

Agent Coulson

If Lovren, Matip & Ragnar all get injured at the same time and we have to rely on Gomez & Can as our 4th and 5th choice CB's that's actually not bad.

martyos121

magma69 wrote: »

Can see a stop gap loan happening in January. 

As long as we don't use this one exclusively as an emergency striker.

NukaCola

ricero wrote: »

Is paul joyce a spoofer ? where was he going saying last night that the club were to spend 175 million pounds today ?

Its **** like this that brings out the anger in us supporters when we are let down again in a transfer window

ricero

Benimar wrote: »

I normally don't get too up or down over who we sign or miss out on, but this has really pissed me off. He is the player we needed this summer and we could have given the league a right rattle with him (and Coutinho staying)

Now it's back to playing for the top 4 trophy

Lovren just simply isn't good enough.

Totally agree. I think at best now its a top four finish. A real pity as i thought with one or two more quality signings, we could of gone far in europe and challange for the league title

ballyargus

Ronaldo's transfer to Real Madrid for stupid money around ten years ago (when Europe and the World were going down the financial toilet) was sickening. I tried (and failed) to stop watching football when it happened.

Huge transfer fees are one of the most irritating things in football. Not spending £175 million on 2 or 3 players should not be seen as a "failure". Not ever.

If there is any "failure", it's a lack of impetus to address the key failings in the team. Number one is a lack of leadership in defence, doesn't matter whether it's the GK or CB - we simply don't have it. This season is the proving ground for players occupying those positions and also for Klopp. If we are served with more of the same and there is no move to urgently address it in January then I will ask questions of Klopp, not until then though.

sword1

Gomez is like a new signing, or at least the nearest we will have this window

NukaCola

On the bright side, apart from CB/GK we are in good shape......I think its a mistake not to have gotten some form of cover at CB but thats down to Klopp I guess, if it goes wrong I'll have no sympathy for him as I said, but I also said that about the LB situation last year so......he deserves our trust, even though I dont like it that much.

I'm in the acceptance stage of grief of lack of CB.....join me.....or as Balague would say "unjoin me".....

~Rebel~

Agent Coulson wrote: »

If Lovren, Matip & Ragnar all get injured at the same time and we have to rely on Gomez & Can as our 4th and 5th choice CB's that's actually not bad.

The problem for me though, is we're in trouble long before all three of those are injured. I'd have next to no faith in Lovren and Klavan keeping clean sheets.

To be fair, Matip and Lovren at least look alright beside each other. And Matip and Klavan in the short term is ok... but Lovren and Klavan is just asking for trouble. Unfortunately, Matip looks like he's the type of player that will always pick up little injuries if he's not occasionally rested.

Vicxas

I miss the monday buzz....

thecretinhop

The way i look at it. Arsenal bid stupid money blocked lfc there. City chelsea know we get vvd if they bid. Plan is id say lash into it till jan then get cb. He who dares etc..

Osmosis Jones

Missing out on a CB is dumb, there's no reason for us not to get one, but it's not as catastrophic as it's made out to be. Our defence isn't very good, it can't really stand up to Spurs', United's or Chelsea's, but with new fullback options brought in we've still improved on our defence from last season, the defence that played a part in getting us into the top 4.

54and56

shamrock55 wrote: »

sakho is gone,surley we have vvd,would be utter madness to let him go and not get in another cb

We haven't lost anyone from the squad as Sakho wasn't in the squad as hasn't been for over a year. Saying that letting him go without having a replacement is "madness" is just silly.

We do however need cover at CB as a minimum of VVD doesn't arrive.

Harry Palmr

Johnny Evans anyone? Robert Huth?

Tusky

~Rebel~ wrote: »

The problem for me though, is we're in trouble long before all three of those are injured. I'd have next to no faith in Lovren and Klavan keeping clean sheets.

To be fair, Matip and Lovren at least look alright beside each other. And Matip and Klavan in the short term is ok... but Lovren and Klavan is just asking for trouble. Unfortunately, Matip looks like he's the type of player that will always pick up little injuries if he's not occasionally rested.

Matip and Lovren don't look particularly solid together. Lovren will cost us plenty of goals this season. And him and Moreno starting together are an accident waiting to happen.

Agent Coulson

You would nearly feel sorry for Flanagan even League 1 sides aren't looking for him to buy or bring on loan a total forgotten man.

No major incomings to Liverpool this evening, no hope of Virgil Van Dijk arriving before 11pm. Only out-goings now, waiting on Markovic

https://twitter.com/DominicKing_DM/status/903333734346305536

One_Of_Shanks

Benimar wrote: »

I normally don't get too up or down over who we sign or miss out on, but this has really pissed me off. He is the player we needed this summer and we could have given the league a right rattle with him (and Coutinho staying)

Now it's back to playing for the top 4 trophy

Lovren just simply isn't good enough.

TBH, I pretty much agree with this. If we had signed VVD (and keep Coutinho) then I'd have quietly fancied us for a title shot.

I'm aware some people on here don't rate VVD that highly but I'm a huge fan and I genuinely think he would have made a massive difference.

But we made a pigs ear of it early Summer and when Klopp spoke about getting our business done early, I think he had VVD in mind.

Don't know who the genius was who decided that it was a smart move to leak it to the media that he chose us over other clubs but it was the biggest o.g. of the Summer.
FSG aren't to blame, they gave the funds. But someone within the club make a cock-up by leaking it and it was a huge error.

I actually like Klopp's attitude of staying patient rather than panic buying a CB that he doesn't want.

Stay patient, go back for VVD in Jan or next Summer. Add Keita too and it all knits together.
We just have to stay patient.

Osmosis Jones

van Dijk isn't the difference between us finishing 4th and winning the title. He'd help, but our defensive issues go deeper than personnel.

Harry Palmr

No major incomings

Maybe someone then!

martyos121

Agent Coulson wrote: »

You would nearly feel sorry for Flanagan even League 1 sides aren't looking for him to buy or bring on loan a total forgotten man.



https://twitter.com/DominicKing_DM/status/903333734346305536

If we sell Coutinho on top of all that, we're sending you back to the club's London office with a very different purpose Coulson...

Osmosis Jones

I just wish this wasn't during an international break so we could get back to football.

Je_suis_Jean

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

We haven't lost anyone from the squad as Sakho wasn't in the squad as hasn't been for over a year. Saying that letting him go without having a replacement is "madness" is just silly.

We do however need cover at CB as a minimum of VVD doesn't arrive.

Lucas played at CB a bit last season.... doubt ox or milner will

Grayditch

It's that time of year again when a load of 12 year olds got 1k extra followers for taking pictures of vans and paid journalists throw as much muck onto the wall as they can and hope some sticks.

Osmosis Jones

I'd assume if we get into a state like last season where we needed Lucas at CB we'll use Gomez.

One_Of_Shanks

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

van Dijk isn't the difference between us finishing 4th and winning the title. He'd help, but our defensive issues go deeper than personnel.

To be fair, he said the difference between giving the title a right rattle and top 4.

So that could mean 2nd/3rd/4th as opposed to first.

That seems fair enough, margins are fine. A top class CB in place of Lovren could make such a difference, potentially.

It also means Lovren is cover, not Klavan....

asteroids over berlin

Vvd is on

Osmosis Jones

asteroids over berlin wrote: »

Vvd is on

Probably the most unfunny thing I've ever seen

Speak Now

asteroids over berlin wrote: »

Vvd is on

A(steroids)

Fromvert

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Johnny Evans anyone? Robert Huth?

I know you're tongue in cheek here but the overall sentiment of buy a CB, any CB will do is of no use to Klopp.

Having some lump that defends balls into box is of no use to Klopp. He needs to be quick and good at one on ones as that's what he'll have to do a lot. Lovren being quick for a CB is probably why Klopp can deal with him, it's his lapse of concentration that lets him down.