Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2017/2018

super_furry

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Sakho played 0 games for us last season. Lucas started ahead of Klavan for some reason last season, in reality he's no better than him.

Which is why I said at the start of last season. Lucas is about on the same level of Klavan alright, but he was at least another option. We're a couple of injuries away from having a centre-back pairing of Klavan and Gomez and even our first choice pairing is poor.

The lack of defensive signings is what will see us challenging for third or fourth rather than the league.

billymitchell

Tusky wrote: »

Probably our best side?

Mane

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Firmino

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Salah

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Coutiniho

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Can

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Henderson

Milner--Lovren----Matip---Clyne

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Mignolet

Subs:

Attack: Sturridge, Solanke, Ings

Midfield: Wijnaldum, Ox, Lallana

Defence: Gomez, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Klavan, Moreno, Robertson


Thoughts: Disappointing that we have only made one improvement to the first 11, particularly in defence. We will continue to ship goals as a result. Our bench is significantly stronger though. Lallana, Ox and Wijnaldum can all fill in in a number of positions. Have Can ahead of them all on current form though.

Add vvd and lemar in there and we got a good squad, now we only have a just about good 15, a few injuries away from being average

jbt123

Absolute worldie by Lemar....

#announcelemarnow

rossie1977

super_furry wrote: »

Yep. Liverpool are now in a worse state defensively than they were at the start of last season and the defensive problems of last season arguably cost the club a title challenge.

Liverpool have only conceded in 2 of the last nine league games.

It's arguable that conceding goals cost them the title challenge yes but then again not scoring them against non top six sides did also:

No goal against Southampton home and away
One goal against palace at home
No goal against hull away
No goal against Burnley away

Osmosis Jones

Gomez is being thrown into the mix very early, he only turned 20 at the end of May, but he didn't look out of place at RB against Arsenal and was great for us at LB under Rodgers before his injury. I hope we don't have to rely on him this season but I look forward to seeing his contribution all the same. He could be a big player for us in a few years time.

Edit: He's also just been named the England u21s captain so there's got to be something to him.

Kimbot

Lemar in celebration rips off his jersey to show an lfc jersey :P

ballyargus

2nd in the league. In a relatively easy champion's league group. Recent defensive record (albeit not without moments of panic) is pretty good. A devastating attack, and a more talented squad than we had last year.

There are reasons to be positive guys. Let's leave the jury out until January

ballyargus

rossie1977 wrote: »

Liverpool have only conceded in 2 of the last nine league games.

Did we not draw 3-3 with Watford?

Utopia Parkway

6/10 for this transfer window. Would have been a 5 only for the fact that we signed Keita but he can't help us for another year.

Somehow we've still left ourselves short in certain areas. No excuse for that. We gambled last season and barely got away with it in that we squeezed into 4th. We're gambling again but we may not get away with this time.

Fans are getting rightly ****ed off over FSG over promising and under delivering. Klopp's magic has glossed over their lack of investment in the squad over the past 4 transfer windows now.

Speak Now

ballyargus wrote: »

Did we not draw 3-3 with Watford?

Read it again

ElTel

Harry Palmr wrote: »

This is becoming a big thing now - there is a stream of U23s heading to Germany in particular to get regular football and obviously they'll pick up some good coaching as well. Klopp ready so to speak.

MD1990 wrote: »

Great move for Ryan Kent.
Bundesliga will be interesting with Origi,Kent & Keita all playing there next season.

I'm annoyed they're loaned out. Are they gonna play 50% of games? Hopefully.
Looks like rotation/rest for our first team is not part of the plan.

~Rebel~

ballyargus wrote: »

2nd in the league. In a relatively easy champion's league group. Recent defensive record (albeit not without moments of panic) is pretty good. A devastating attack, and a more talented squad than we had last year.

There are reasons to be positive guys. Let's leave the jury out until January

We might make it to January without an injury at the back leaving us very dodgey looking. Or we might not.

Why take the risk? Plenty of decent CB's moved for decent prices this summer who would have at least been an upgrade over Klavan - and many who were good enough to be starters in place of Lovren.

NukaCola

ballyargus wrote: »

Did we not draw 3-3 with Watford?

Conceded in 2 games, not goals.....made the same mistake

~Rebel~

ElTel wrote: »

I'm annoyed they're loaned out. Are they gonna play 50% of games? Hopefully.
Looks like rotation/rest for our first team is not part of the plan.

Klopp must be very confident of Sturridge and Ings staying fit.

doc_17

If Liverpool can maintain a title challenge until the start of January and RBL exit the CL, I wonder would it be possible to bring forward that transfer by a few months?

It was January and February that killed us last year.

Harry Palmr

ElTel wrote: »

I'm annoyed they're loaned out. Are they gonna play 50% of games? Hopefully.
Looks like rotation/rest for our first team is not part of the plan.

I'd like Kent to play but with Salah and Oxlade-Chamberlain (must put that name in my browsers note page) signed there would only be cup games at most.

Thomas Lemar has scored again.

cj maxx

jonnycivic wrote: »

Lemar in celebration rips off his jersey to show an lfc jersey :P

If carlsberg did football matches ..........

54and56

Tusky wrote: »

Probably our best side?

Mane

---

Firmino

---

Salah

---

Coutiniho

---

Can

---

Henderson

Milner--Lovren----Matip---Clyne

---

Mignolet

Subs:

Attack: Sturridge, Solanke, Ings

Midfield: Wijnaldum, Ox, Lallana

Defence: Gomez, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Klavan, Moreno, Robertson


Thoughts: Disappointing that we have only made one improvement to the first 11, particularly in defence. We will continue to ship goals as a result. Our bench is significantly stronger though. Lallana, Ox and Wijnaldum can all fill in in a number of positions. Have Can ahead of them all on current form though.

I think Klopp is going to convert Milner into a Swiss Army knife midfielder who can use the defensive attributes he developed last season to do a DM type job if needed and will let Moreno and Robertson battle it out for the LB position.

One_Of_Shanks

super_furry wrote: »

Sakho - arguably the best defender at the club is gone. .

Ah now lets not get carried away, unless he has improved a lot in his absence as players bizarrely tend to do in fans eyes.

But no way on earth is he a better defender than Matip.

Mad prices these days and everyone in football knew he was available at a decent price and the biggest club to go after him was Crystal Palace.

Is he as good as Lovren? Maybe, maybe not. But if he was as good as some on here think then he'd get better offers than Palace.

ElTel

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Klopp must be very confident of Sturridge and Ings staying fit.

Hmm...More signings tonight hopefully. :pac:

Osmosis Jones

Origi's far better off on loan than as our 5th choice striker, he'd barely get 6 starts here this season. Can't just hoard players and hinder their development for fear of an injury crisis. We'll be fine up front.

ballyargus

Speak Now wrote: »

Read it again

Love it. And I'm onside with it. It's the epitome of the "glass half full". More of this!

54and56

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Fans are getting rightly ****ed off over FSG over promising and under delivering.

That's so funny as they did neither of the things you are attributing to them.

noodler

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Ah now lets not get carried away, unless he has improved a lot in his absence as players bizarrely tend to do in fans eyes.

But no way on earth is he a better defender than Matip.

Mad prices these days and everyone in football knew he was available at a decent price and the biggest club to go after him was Crystal Palace.

Is he as good as Lovren? Maybe, maybe not. But if he was as good as some on here think then he'd get better offers than Palace.

Definitely a better defender than Matip in my opinion. Certainly once the the honeymoon first few months of his arrival were finished.

Not as good with the ball on the deck though.

NukaCola

Sakho much better than Lovren anyway, whatever about Matip.......you run at Lovren and he falls asunder, I have very little faith in him sad to say, Klopp rates him though so, better get used to seeing him....

Vicxas

Ah well, nothing we can do now.

Hour and a bit left, very much doubt there's going to be any movement.

ElTel

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I'd like Kent to play but with Salah and Oxlade-Chamberlain (must put that name in my browsers note page) signed there would only be cup games at most.

Thomas Lemar has scored again.

Ah yeah. I guess I want these lads starting or on the bench when the main men are given a match off (home to Swansea say before CL)

Osmosis Jones

ElTel wrote: »

Ah yeah. I guess I want these lads starting or on the bench when the main men are given a match off (home to Swansea say before CL)

Those guys wouldn't even be the backup though, they'd be the backup's backup. We're still pretty solid in their positions anyway.

ElTel

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Origi's far better off on loan than as our 5th choice striker, he'd barely get 6 starts here this season. Can't just hoard players and hinder their development for fear of an injury crisis. We'll be fine up front.

He'd get his chance if your "brave" enough to rest each of the first eleven attack once every 9 league games say.

ERG89

Osmosis Jones wrote:

Those guys wouldn't even be the backup though, they'd be the backup's backup. We're still pretty solid in their positions anyway.

If he stays Coutinho is in no way a backup player

NukaCola

No Flanagan, Ings or Markovic....

rob316

Before tonight mbappe and lemar didn't have an international goal between them and they were valued at €260m...madness these prices are

eyerer

Coutinho only makes the bench :P

Harry Palmr

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Those guys wouldn't even be the backup though, they'd be the backup's backup. We're still pretty solid in their positions anyway.

Coutinho deserves some time on the bench

~Rebel~

NukaCola wrote: »

No Flanagan, Ings or Markovic....

If Origi is gone, Ings kinda has to stay I think...

Markovic is a weird one... a tiny part of me would actually kind of like us to keep him and try to actually unlock some of that clear potential. But Klopp clearly doesn't fancy him, so it's probably better to just ship him off to anyone who'll have him. After being quite good on loan last season, I'm a bit surprised there isn't more interest in him.

livinginkorea

We won't have much activity when January comes so I was hoping we could do something today. If memory serves me correctly, Klopp doesn't do January transfers much.

shamrock55

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Coutinho deserves some time on the bench

I'd have wijnaldum, best midfield player we have tbh

SuperTortoise

How do you post that team lineup thingy? I give up!

Coutinho for Lallana

LuckyLloyd

Poor window. Didn't do near enough. We'll look back on this with huge regret in a few month's time.

Osmosis Jones

I didn't make that line up btw, just took it from a reddit post. It's not necessarily how I'd line the team up, it just shows our depth in each position.

Charlie19

Pity about VvD

Looks like a bit of a...


On the signing of what was really needed.

daithijjj

You read windows in how you address frailties and improve further on things you do well. The former has been neglected, in respect of having so much money to spend but not have alternatives in such an important season in the grand scheme. Really? THAT defence and keeper cannot be improved upon for less than 75m?

The Can situation is also irritating and the Keita deal could look like an expensive replacement.

Sappy404

So it's really bad we didn't get a centre half. Stubborn, naive, stupid. Pure Liverpool.

I'm still clinging to the idea that our delegation got a deal and a medical done for Lemar in the last couple of days and it's pending an announcement following the France match. Once reality kicks in though I reckon I'm gonna be fairly f*c king livid.

One_Of_Shanks

If this transfer window has taught us anything its that Klopp really doesn't do Plan-B when it comes to defenders, Ballague knows about as much as the average twitter user, David Thompson hasn't a bean, and Dickerty could buy the house you're living in from 3 years wages.

jbt123

Get your claws out....

I actually wish we would sign Johnny Evans.....

Discuss.

shamrock55

jbt123 wrote: »

Get your claws out....

I actually wish we would sign Johnny Evans.....

Discuss.

Yep I'd take him over Lovren anyway,but I wouldn't be excited by signing him either

Charlie19

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

If this transfer window has taught us anything its that Klopp really doesn't do Plan-B when it comes to defenders, Ballague knows about as much as the average twitter user, David Thompson hasn't a bean, and Dickerty could buy the house you're living in from 3 years wages.

Also throw in there the deal that allows a €180M player (Mbappe) go on loan to PSG to work around the Fifa fair play rule.

Sappy404

jbt123 wrote: »

Get your claws out....

I actually wish we would sign Johnny Evans.....

Discuss.

I'd take Ched Evans at this stage.



No I wouldn't. But you see what I mean.

Turtyturd

F*ck off Johnny.