Taboos in Ireland

Cheerful Spring

Holocust and Mao. We can't talk about, even though was part of human history.

uch

Big stinking room clearing Farts on a Packed train is Fairly Taboo, can't understand why

Ipso

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Holocust and Mao. We can't talk about, even though was part of human history.

There is/was a restaurant in Dublin called Café Mao, tens of millions dead but it probably wasn't as bad as that.

Arghus

Suggesting that someone might have a drinking problem.

kunst nugget

Arghus wrote: »

Suggesting that someone might have a drinking problem.

What?!!??! I only drink socially. I never drink at home so that's why I'm not an alcoholic! The garden's a different story, it's not the house and I only drink when I'm celebrating, or when I'm stressed, or bored, or happy, or sad… You know what you're problem is? You're a dryshíte and you're no craic. I could give up this minute but I wouldn't give you the satisfaction.

jmayo

AllForIt wrote: »

Proclaiming your not interested in GAA especially when your home county is in the final. I'm from Mayo and in the last few years I've had to pretend I'm really disappointed when we loose.

Ok you are now officially disowned.
Get out, GET OUT.

Squeeonline wrote: »

Public nudity.

The idea of going swimming or into a sauna naked is so normal in most countries. Our hangover from catholism being rammed down our throats means that we are generally quite ashamed of our own naked bodies.

And what about the pagan Sasanaigh.

They are a wee bit repressed as well and they are mostly protestants.

Squeeonline wrote: »

Germany, most of Scandinavia, Austria...They wouldnt think twice about sunbathing naked or going into the sauna. Just my experience.

But shure they are fairly durty.
Anyone remember Cineclub on RTE ?

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Holocust and Mao. We can't talk about, even though was part of human history.

Nah that's just around here.

It is also taboo to speak ill of the mods.
Whatever you do don't mention the inbreeding

Spider Web

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Holocust and Mao. We can't talk about, even though was part of human history.

Of course we can talk about them. How could someone in all honesty say it's taboo to talk about the Holocaust and Chairman Mao in Ireland?

Now, saying Mao was good to the Chinese people and casting doubts on aspects of the Holocaust despite the multitude of evidence contradicting all of the above... not so much taboo as flying in the face of facts.

Cheerful Spring

Spider Web wrote: »

Of course we can talk about them. How could someone in all honesty say it's taboo to talk about the Holocaust and Chairman Mao in Ireland?

Now, saying Mao was good to the Chinese people and casting doubts on aspects of the Holocaust despite the multitude of evidence contradicting all of the above... not so much taboo as flying in the face of facts.

Mao was good to his people. And only on board.ie was Mao plan to improve the Chinese economy and Chinese people lives was a bad thing.

Evidence. I researched it overnight and the Holocust story is full of holes.

Facts: here is the first foreign doctor on the scene at Belsen.

Is this not evidence?
A British doctor who said outright it was not the fault of the Germans the Jews died at the camp. The Jews he spoke to all said the German soldiers looked after them right up till around 1945. After this time the conditions at the camp got worse. The reason he said the Jews are undressed are on the ground, is the prisoners removed their clothes. We don't hear this version anymore?

Is this not evidence?
The Red Cross also released a report in 1979, and the claim only 300,000 Jews died at the concentration camps.




This number is just a confirmation of what the Alamac of 1948 said only 300, 000 Jews are missing worldwide after WW2.

Do you know the alleged gas chambers at Auschwitz was scientifically tested for Zyklon B and they could find any traces of the substance inside the alleged Gas chamber, Strange don't you think? And the alleged gas chambers had no roof holes, the curator of Auschwitz admits on the video below, they are not original openings on the roof, they got placed there after the war.

One of the leading Gas experts who personally tested the alleged Gas Chamber at Auchwitz and found nothing to verify gassing of 6 million Jewish people.

For me there is nothing racist or anti-anti-semitic about re-reviewing history. When you advocate racism and the killing of Jews and Blacks, yes this is a problem. I sure i be sanctioned for talking about the subjects again, but that's fine, this is the world we live in.

Ipso

Of for f*** sake!

Anesthetize

Spider Web wrote: »

Just my opinion but I don't think either are taboo anymore - or maybe they are in certain parts of Ireland I've no experience of.

There still seems to be parts of the country where suicide is seen as taboo. Where they are reported as 'sudden deaths' or 'tragic incidents' instead of being direct and honest about it.

Wibbs

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

For me there is nothing racist or anti-anti-semitic about re-reviewing history.

I would actually agree 100% on this score. I personally find it extremely worrying that laws exist in Germany(and elsewhere) that will land someone in legal trouble for any questioning of the accepted historical narrative regarding Nazi Germany and in particular the Holocaust. I abhor censorship of this kind. And that includes the censorship of daft ideas as well as those that may have some merit. When any debate is considered taboo it tends to engender hardliner thinking in both the supporters of the accepted narrative and hardliner thinking in the opponents of the accepted narrative. That's not good. I say shine a light on things. If we don't I fear we're doomed to end up repeating the horrors of the past.

For me do I believe in what has come to be known as the Holocaust, that the German fascist mindset was set on the removal by many and any means necessary of all enemies of the reich? Yes. Without a doubt. There is plenty of hard evidence. Do I also believe that there are major questions even holes in the established narrative? Equally yes. Without a doubt. There is plenty of hard evidence.

Anesthetize wrote:

There still seems to be parts of the country where suicide is seen as taboo. Where they are reported as 'sudden deaths' or 'tragic incidents' instead of being direct and honest about it.

It has receded a little since I was a kid, certainly in the major towns and cities, but yeah, in some areas it's still in play. Hell, it's still in play in major towns and cities at times. Depends on one's local "pull" I've noted. I knew two young guys who took their own lives and both were passed off as "accidents". In fairness this was in the late 80's and mid 90's so maybe I'm out of date there.

eviltwin

Having a child in second class who won't be making communion. The child hasn't even gone back to school yet and already I've had an earful about how mean I'm being.

eviltwin

Being a heterosexual man with no interest in sport.

Cheerful Spring

Wibbs wrote: »

I would actually agree 100% on this score. I personally find it extremely worrying that laws exist in Germany(and elsewhere) that will land someone in legal trouble for any questioning of the accepted historical narrative regarding Nazi Germany and in particular the Holocaust. I abhor censorship of this kind. And that includes the censorship of daft ideas as well as those that may have some merit. When any debate is considered taboo it tends to engender hardliner thinking in both the supporters of the accepted narrative and hardliner thinking in the opponents of the accepted narrative. That's not good. I say shine a light on things. If we don't I fear we're doomed to end up repeating the horrors of the past.

For me do I believe in what has come to be known as the Holocaust, that the German fascist mindset was set on the removal by many and any means necessary of all enemies of the reich? Yes. Without a doubt. There is plenty of hard evidence. Do I also believe that there are major questions even holes in the established narrative? Equally yes. Without a doubt. There is plenty of hard evidence.

I agree with most of your post

My position is always this.

I don't give a crap about governments cracking down on websites like Stormfront, we know sites of this type promote hate and division and even the murder of minorties. Good riddance to these sites.

If the event truly happened as is claimed by the masses (world opinion), there should be no inconsistencies with their version of history, least in my mind!

When i research established (official) history, i try to look at what the other side said happened too, and often you will find, there is an alternative version .

Flat Earth theory ie be a perfect example. The official narrative is the World is a ball ( circular) mass in space. Is there evidence to support the case the Earth is flat? Well i looked over their evidence and never found anything they said compelling or interesting.

I actually am of the believe the Nazis killed hundreds if not hundreds of thousands of Jews at these camps. But i don't believe they gassed them, least in the numbers claimed online. There is no photographs or videos of a building with holes in the roof to pour gas down into, first problem. Second problem, there is no documentation, or leaked memo, that shows the orders to gas million of Jews.

Executions of Jewish prisoners, over working them to death i believe this happened. We know bad and good people exist and there was likely bad Nazis at these camps, who got delight from punishing Jews.

Esel

^ Why is your post in bold?

Cheerful Spring

I just say this about Mao "Great leap forward" it was a disaster at the beginning and millions died because of it. Mao even admitted he made mistakes to the Chinese people. But overall the plan helped China in later years. And Mao goal was not to murder millions of Chinese peasants, this is false history promoted by the American right. He could not have forseen he's plan would not work out as planned and we know the majority of deaths occurred in 1959-1960 when bad weather, drought and floods caused a famine

If you continue to believe Fox news hate speech about Mao, that's fine.

Spider Web

Wibbs wrote: »

I would actually agree 100% on this score. I personally find it extremely worrying that laws exist in Germany(and elsewhere) that will land someone in legal trouble for any questioning of the accepted historical narrative regarding Nazi Germany and in particular the Holocaust. I abhor censorship of this kind. And that includes the censorship of daft ideas as well as those that may have some merit. When any debate is considered taboo it tends to engender hardliner thinking in both the supporters of the accepted narrative and hardliner thinking in the opponents of the accepted narrative. That's not good. I say shine a light on things. If we don't I fear we're doomed to end up repeating the horrors of the past.

For me do I believe in what has come to be known as the Holocaust, that the German fascist mindset was set on the removal by many and any means necessary of all enemies of the reich? Yes. Without a doubt. There is plenty of hard evidence. Do I also believe that there are major questions even holes in the established narrative? Equally yes. Without a doubt. There is plenty of hard evidence.

I agree all views should be allowed airing - silencing people will just make them more entrenched in their views. But those views need to be backed up and if they're easily contradicted with evidence (including by people who were there) it's not censorship or "propaganda" or "hate speech".

Cheerful Spring

Esel wrote: »

^ Why is your post in bold?

If you talking to me? My English is not the best, may be easier to read?

Esel

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

If you talking to me? My English is not the best, may be easier to read?

No, it's annoying - to me anyway. There is no need for it.

Cheerful Spring

Esel wrote: »

No, it's annoying - to me anyway. There is no need for it.

Ok i change it!

DeanAustin

KungPao wrote: »

Saying that Jack Charlton wasted a golden generation of players who could have done a lot more if they didn't just hoof the ball up into the air and keep passing it back to the keeper, and ultimately 88, 90, and 94 were failures.

That's coz it's a f**king stupid thing to say. Up there with "we could have won in 2002 if Roy Keane had played".

Sue Pa Key Pa

Saying that The Mammy is a lousy cook

Tilikum

Veganism.

jmayo

eviltwin wrote: »

Being a heterosexual man with no interest in sport.

All sports ???

Are you into cars, bikes, etc ?

I would say that is not just a taboo in Ireland, try Spain or Italy and see the reaction to not being into the likes of soccer.

ratmouse

Mentioning social media influencers/beauty bloggers in any way other than praising them to the moon and back.

mrsdewinter

Admitting to voluntarily watching the Late Late Show for one's own unironic entertainment.

It's a few years since a friend of mine noticed that when people mention they caught some Z-lister sleb or other on the Late Late, it's usually followed by the explanation 'it was just on on the telly there...'

Omackeral

ratmouse wrote: »

Mentioning social media influencers/beauty bloggers in any way other than praising them to the moon and back.

Me boll*x! They're one group you can easily have a pop off!

Vote 4 Pedro

Reading this thread I'm Fecked,

I don't drink tea, Coffee or Alcohol,
I don't like Gaa or Football,
I don't have any interest in the so called celebrities,
I drive an "automatic" car - which really means that I'm not a "proper driver"
I have plenty of other interests but not the standard GAA, football etc.
The looks I get when I don't want the cuppa tea are priceless,

No thanks, No really I don't, No thanks you're alright, No I just don't drink tea, yes I know it's odd,
what never, why? well what will I give you ?
Will you have a glass of water then, I can't believe it - no tea.

team_actimel

Speaking out against hunting while living in a rural area.

You're made feel like an oddball if you're against hunting and hate GAA.

jamesbere

Vote 4 Pedro wrote: »

Reading this thread I'm Fecked,

I don't drink tea, Coffee or Alcohol,
I don't like Gaa or Football,
I don't have any interest in the so called celebrities,
I drive an "automatic" car - which really means that I'm not a "proper driver"
I have plenty of other interests but not the standard GAA, football etc.
The looks I get when I don't want the cuppa tea are priceless,

No thanks, No really I don't, No thanks you're alright, No I just don't drink tea, yes I know it's odd,
what never, why? well what will I give you ?
Will you have a glass of water then, I can't believe it - no tea.

I'm delighted when someone says they don't drink either, means I don't have to make them a cup

farmchoice

team_actimel wrote: »

Speaking out against hunting while living in a rural area.

You're made feel like an oddball if you're against hunting and hate GAA.

whatever about hating the gaa (hate seems a strong word, why would you hate a sport, no interest perhaps but hate?) but i i live in rural ireland and id say a sizeable minority if not a majority oppose hunting, farmers included.

lots of farmers and land owners around our way have no hunting signs up and hunting is fairly rare, it would be very much a minority interest, in mayo anyway.

robbiezero

LirW wrote: »

Not having the classic Irish hotel wedding with 250 guests.

Having a non-traditional wedding and NOT telling everyone that your guests said it was the best wedding they had ever been to and so chilled.

6541

The biggest taboo in Ireland is not buying your round !

sbsquarepants

eviltwin wrote: »

Being a heterosexual man with no interest in sport.

Heterosexual you say?:rolleyes:

Bet you're mad for the auld cock fighting!:D

I'm 43 and up until somewhere around the age of 30 or so I had zero interest in football, then my tastes just changed - I love it now. But back when I wasn't bothered and didn't have a clue what was going on, people would genuinely look at you like you'd 2 heads.
"so who do you think will win tomorrow?"
"win what?"
"the match of course!"
"what match?"
""

May as well have been speaking Greek!

team_actimel

Speaking out about obesity. In particular, child obesity.

It's a taboo to voice concern to someone about their obese child.

jmayo

6541 wrote: »

The biggest taboo in Ireland is not buying your round !

And rightly so.

Even if you don't want a drink yourself you should buy a drink for the people that bought you a drink previously.
It's a thing called decency.

Otherwise do not get into rounds in the first place. :mad:

I have come across this with some foreigners, who of course have the excuse of ignorance, and mean native fookers who wouldn't give you the steam off their pee.

Spider Web

Omackeral wrote: »

Me boll*x! They're one group you can easily have a pop off!

Aye, it might be taboo among their fans (imagine viewing someone who writes a blog as a celebrity...!) but anyone else just sees it for how bizarre and ludicrous it is.

Not saying, by the way, that there is anything wrong with blogging (it's actually a positive thing overall) - moreso the borderline worship some bloggers enjoy... because of the clothing they wear or make-up they buy. It's nuts!

Richard Hillman

Had the leaders of the 1916 Rising not been executed, they would have introduced communism.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Not liking GAA is a poor example. The GAA has little presence in many areas of the country and in many areas where it's strong, there are lots of people who have no interest in the sports. Perhaps it's a taboo in certain places but not in Ireland as a whole.

nihicib2

Being from a rural area...

Not going to Mass and being vocal about not believing in a Sky fairy
Being female and not wanting marriage or children
Leading on from this, going out drinking with the lads (scarlet woman alert, lock up your husbands)
And the most terrible of all taboos, not drinking coffee, tea, or MILK!!, sure what can we give you????

Vodka is usually what I answer, they think Im joking!

_Roz_

I'm sure its been said, but mental health in a day-to-day context. You do get famous people speaking out more about their experiences, but by virtue of who they are people feel an attachment and sympathy. If I turned around in my workplace, or any previous workplace I've had (and I'm only 30, so we're talking the last 12 years here) and said, 'I suffer from social anxiety, generalized anxiety, have depressive tendencies etc', people wouldn't know how to react. There's definitely progress in this area - great progress, and particularly in urban areas with large younger populations. But rural areas, and in all older populations, there's still an inability or reluctance to recognise or acknowledge mental health issues, in my humble opinion.

Omackeral

I'm gonna go against the grain and say it's never been more acceptable to speak about mental health in this country. It's ok not to be ok. Anyone who gives abuse to people over mental health is seen as a good for nothing bully and rightly so. Maybe that's just in my own circles though.

ToddyDoody

Porn is taboo, possibly not just in Ireland but the Europeans seem more liberal about it.

Anesthetize

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Porn is taboo, possibly not just in Ireland but the Europeans seem more liberal about it.

I remember going into a gift shop in some small tourist town in Spain when I was about 14, and seeing sex toys and porn videos openly displayed on shelves. At least I'm sure it was a gift shop.