ISIS Terrorist Attack in Barcelona

kraitor

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Have concrete bollards been introduced to Grafton Street, Henry Street and other parts of the CC? If not, then why not? Both areas have a huge number of people per sq m at any given time. There shouldn't be a seconds thought given to it. In Ireland we tend to be reactive instead of proaxtive and I would hope our security services are on the ball here.

Here in Oz they have introduced them to pedestrianized areas of Melbourne and Sydney.

with all due respect that is nonsense,

if a terrorist cell hit ireland thay are most likely to hit galway shoppin centres or athlone,

even galwegians are wise to the fact

that is coupled to the fact that there are 1 or 2 suspected cells operating from east Galway city

tomwaterford

kraitor wrote: »

with all due respect that is nonsense,

if a terrorist cell hit ireland thay are most likely to hit galway shoppin centres or athlone,

even galwegians are wise to the fact

that is coupled to the fact that there are 1 or 2 suspected cells operating from east Galway city

But which of Islam are they operating from...I seen hezbollah come out and condemn these attacks


But I think they're like the Catholic version of Islam and isis is the prodestant versin (to put it simply!)

Lucy8080

FraR wrote: »

Nobody with a brain would view an Irish immigrant to China as Chinese. And rightfully so. New Irish is a preposterous term regurgutated by simpletons and cowards.

Call them what they are. Immigrants in Ireland. Just like id be an immigrant in China and not new Chinese.

And if your children were born there? Would you demand that they be called immigrants and be subject to the " them 'uns" language that you are now engaging in?

kraitor

tomwaterford wrote: »

But which of Islam are they operating from...I seen hezbollah come out and condemn these attacks


But I think they're like the Catholic version of Islam and isis is the prodestant versin (to put it simply!)

hey tom relax, ya everybody holds you in the same regard as the barcelona attacker,

actually i reckon you are lower than them, sad

get a life

FraR

Lucy8080 wrote: »

And if your children were born there? Would you demand that they be called immigrants and be subject to the " them 'uns" language that you are now engaging in?

They wouldn't be considered Chinese or entitled to Chinese citizenship. It's only us European fools that make up ridiculous terminology for foreigners and insist they're just as x as the natives.

And for what? What do we get in return? Nothing but problems.

Lucy8080

FraR wrote: »

They wouldn't be considered Chinese or entitled to Chinese citizenship. It's only us European fools that make up ridiculous terminology for foreigners and insist they're just as x as the natives.

And for what? What do we get in return? Nothing but problems.

Yup, you are right, lets pull the Irish/Catholics out of America/Australia/Britain,Europe..where ever..those white N*ggers never added anything ,they where only trouble..every one of them.

Am I doing this right?

kraitor

Lucy8080 wrote: »

Yup, you are right, lets pull the Irish/Catholics out of America/Australia/Britain,Europe..where ever..those white N*ggers never added anything ,they where only trouble..every one of them.

Am I doing this right?

don't be such a hardcore gommunist lucy

Lucy8080

kraitor wrote: »

don't be such a hardcore gommunist lucy

7 posts ,eh? What is a gommunist? I'm not entirely down with the kids,man!

kraitor

Lucy8080 wrote: »

7 posts ,eh? What is a gommunist? I'm not entirely down with the kids,man!

stick it up your hole you gommunist

worded

kraitor wrote: »

don't be such a hardcore gommunist lucy

What's a Lucy ?

FraR

Lucy8080 wrote: »

Yup, you are right, lets pull the Irish/Catholics out of America/Australia/Britain,Europe..where ever..those white N*ggers never added anything ,they where only trouble..every one of them.

Am I doing this right?

Mass immigration has worked out terribly for Native Americans and the Aboriginals. Lessons to be learned there.

Unlike them, we are still in a position to stop it.

kraitor

FraR wrote: »

Mass immigration has worked out terribly for Native Americans and the Aboriginals. Lessons to be learned there.

Unlike them, we are still in a position to stop it.

nein, das geht uberhaubt nicht,

alle grenzen zu, fick europa und fick merkel

wakka12

FraR wrote: »

Mass immigration has worked out terribly for Native Americans and the Aboriginals. Lessons to be learned there.

Unlike them, we are still in a position to stop it.

Its really a silly comparison. The vast vast majority of natives in those regions died out due to transmission of alien diseases which they had no immunity to. The europeans also had far superior weaponry, and arrived in far larger numbers than middle eastern people are arriving to western europe. None of which is comparable to the modern form of mass immigration we are experiencing in the west. This 'us' vs' them' subtle invasion narrative is really quite melodramatic and ridiculous

Lucy8080

FraR wrote: »

Mass immigration has worked out terribly for Native Americans and the Aboriginals. Lessons to be learned there.

Unlike them, we are still in a position to stop it.

What lessons have you learned, about Europeans?

kraitor

wakka12 wrote: »

Its really a silly comparison. The vast vast majority of natives in those regions died out due to transmission of alien diseases which they had no immunity to. The europeans also had far superior weaponry, and arrived in far larger numbers than middle eastern people are arriving to western europe. None of which is comparable to the modern form of mass immigration we are experiencing in the west. This 'us' vs' them' subtle invasion narrative is really quite melodramatic and ridiculous

listen comrade when your daughter;s throat is geting slashed who do you want to see coming over the hill ,

your eternal enemy the white christain strait male, with a crossbow

or a gang of your imported refugees

ChikiChiki

kraitor wrote: »

with all due respect that is nonsense,

if a terrorist cell hit ireland thay are most likely to hit galway shoppin centres or athlone,

even galwegians are wise to the fact

that is coupled to the fact that there are 1 or 2 suspected cells operating from east Galway city

Whats nonsense and what do you base your analysis on?

I don't care if its Galway or Dublin, just get the bollards up wherever required to ensure peoples safety.

This type of threat, we have never seen before recent history.

kraitor

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Whats nonsense and what do you base your analysis on?

I don't care if its Galway or Dublin, just get the bollards up wherever required to ensure peoples safety.

This type of threat, we have never seen before recent history.

go to bed !!!

kraitor

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Whats nonsense and what do you base your analysis on?

I don't care if its Galway or Dublin, just get the bollards up wherever required to ensure peoples safety.

This type of threat, we have never seen before recent history.

look to be honest there is information about galway, not exactly in the public domain but any dog in the street in galway can tell ya the story,

to be fair if you want exact adressees and locations pm me,

and as u said urself i don't care if it;s galway or dublin, i agree with that

ChikiChiki

kraitor wrote: »

go to bed !!!

Its 14.28 where I am. I'm not the one that should be in bed. Hopefully you passed your information onto the Gardai. I assume you have.

tritriagain

end of the road wrote: »

not in my opinion, but in fact. he was spanish




it doesn't matter. what he identifies himself as is irrelevant, he was spanish.

It clearly mattered quite a lot to him. And I'm sure if you could ask the people he killed it would matter to them as well.

timthumbni

[QUOTE=end of the road;104421328


none of those born in northern ireland are british, they are irish.[/QUOTE]

Well, the most recent census shows that few that actually live in Northern Ireland agree with you on that one.

From memory only 27 odd percent actually consider themselves Irish within Northern Ireland. The biggest percentage (40 plus percent consider themselves British and a rising percentage (20 plus percent) consider themselves as being Northern Irish...

(And btw I'm from NI. I don't consider myself as Irish.) eotr proved to be talking ****e again.

Breaston Plants

kraitor wrote: »

with all due respect that is nonsense,

if a terrorist cell hit ireland thay are most likely to hit galway shoppin centres or athlone,

even galwegians are wise to the fact

that is coupled to the fact that there are 1 or 2 suspected cells operating from east Galway city

1 or 2 suspected cells operating from east Galway city? Where in the name of Jesus did you get this from? Have you notified the authorities? You are talking through your hole.

Yamanoto

tomwaterford wrote: »

But which of Islam are they operating from...I seen hezbollah come out and condemn these attacks


But I think they're like the Catholic version of Islam and isis is the prodestant versin (to put it simply!)

Eh...say what now?

timthumbni

Yamanoto wrote: »

Eh...say what now?

Tom certainly doesn't like the old prods (maybe that's why he spells protestant with a d)).... and him from Waterford too....

Will I Am Not

timthumbni wrote: »

Tom certainly doesn't like the old prods (maybe that's why he spells protestant with a d)).... and him from Waterford too....

*Waderford

SafeSurfer

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Ted Plain wrote: »

LOL

La Falange?

I immediately thought you were using a pisstake name for a knobjockey politician. like Ruairi Quinn being Ho Chi Quin or Eamon Gilmore being Eamon Gimmemore.

I thought you were on about the bauld Nige. Nigel, garage, garrajsch, Farridge. Farrajsch.

Nigel la Flange.

No

I am not taking the piss.

The 'protesters' were La Falange. They pursue an ultranationalist fascist ideology called Falangism.

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Here's how many times each county has won the lottery jackpot
http://jrnl.ie/2584594

This is almost tiresome now.

How many times have any of the above counties been victims of ISIS terrorism?

Again I say, you are far more likely to win the national lottery than to be a victim of ISIS.

I take it you have never studied statistics. Winning the lotto is self selecting. Only those who opt to play can win. Being killed by ISIS is a random event.
I don't play the lotto but I do attend concerts, restaurants, walk down pedestrian streets etc. Ergo.....

fash

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Nettle Soup wrote: »

Stupid post. Are you saying he was not Spanish?

It's best to accept the facts and assess them rather than act the ostrich. We are dealing with a 17 year old Spaniard who was somehow radicalised enough to murder 14 innocent people by driving at speed through a crowd. This is the kind if lunacy we are dealing with. It's a difficult enemy to engage or defeat.

You do realise that these scum consider themselves Muslim first and probably Moroccan before Spanish!

When asked by social media site Kiwi.com what he would do if absolute ruler of the world for a day, he responded "Kill the unbelievers and leave only Muslims who follow their religion".
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/18/barcelona-terror-attack-police-hunt-18-year-old-moussa-oukabir

This is a much bigger and deeper social problem than people realise. Settling Europe with a population which contains a significant number of religious supremacists will have consequences for centuries to come (see Northern Ireland). This is not just a problem for us, it is one for our children's children's children's....[add 10 more children's] children.

whiskeyman

Any update on that missing 7 year old?
Are there 'unknown' bodies or victims still in hospital?
This seems very odd.

timthumbni

whiskeyman wrote: »

Any update on that missing 7 year old?
Are there 'unknown' bodies or victims still in hospital?
This seems very odd.

What missing 7 year old? I can't see anything on the BBC site.

munsterlegend

whiskeyman wrote: »

Any update on that missing 7 year old?
Are there 'unknown' bodies or victims still in hospital?
This seems very odd.

I think Spanish authorities waiting for father to arrive from Australia. Unfortunately from what I have read online the child is not missing and is a victim of this attack.

whiskeyman

munsterlegend wrote: »

I think Spanish authorities waiting for father to arrive from Australia. Unfortunately from what I have read online the child is not missing and is a victim of this attack.

Ah ok.
Most media I saw have 'reported missing'
https://www.google.ie/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/17/victims-las-ramblas-terror-attack/amp/

I guess it's probably waiting to ensure body is ID'd.

munsterlegend

whiskeyman wrote: »

Ah ok.
Most media I saw have 'reported missing'
https://www.google.ie/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/17/victims-las-ramblas-terror-attack/amp/

I guess it's probably waiting to ensure body is ID'd.

His mother was injured in the attack so no one to identify the poor lad I suppose. It was the same in London where a Spanish person was reported missing for 3 days and then confirmed as a victim.

pjohnson

kraitor wrote: »

look to be honest there is information about galway, not exactly in the public domain but any dog in the street in galway can tell ya the story,

to be fair if you want exact adressees and locations pm me,

and as u said urself i don't care if it;s galway or dublin, i agree with that

I'm guessin ya didn't pull in Carbon so was a bit cranky at 5.30am. I hope the JC went well for ya.

wakka12

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/russia-stabbings-siberia-surgut-injured-knife-terror-latest-a7901646.html
8 people stabbed in Russia city of Surgut this morning, 2 in critical condition.
May be the 4th terrorist attack in europe in 48 hours after Barcelona, Cambrils and Turku.

branie2

Who could be next?

Snake Plisken

According to the Indo there are over 70 on the Jihadi sympathisers watchlist, it was only thought to be 30 or 40 before but the list has grown! These are scum who are communicating and providing logistical support with suspected terror activists in Europe.

timthumbni

Snake Plisken wrote: »

According to the Indo there are over 70 on the Jihadi sympathisers watchlist, it was only thought to be 30 or 40 before but the list has grown! These are scum who are communicating and providing logistical support with suspected terror activists in Europe.

I think you could probably double that and still be underestimating tbh.

We have become soft and naive in Western Europe. Let's hope we wake up before it's too late...

Barry Badrinath

branie2 wrote: »

Who could be next?

Dun Dun Duuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnn!

Stay tuned to find out!

Samaris

Poor kid. Yeah, it will remain officially "missing" status until the body is identified as a matter of course. Prevents declaring someone dead and then realising that the body is someone else.

conorhal

Snake Plisken wrote: »

According to the Indo there are over 70 on the Jihadi sympathisers watchlist, it was only thought to be 30 or 40 before but the list has grown! These are scum who are communicating and providing logistical support with suspected terror activists in Europe.

I'm baffled as to why that list isn't reduced to zero by tomorrow, none of these people were here 20yrs ago, I doubt many of them are 'home grown' so we have a golden opportunity that the likes of France and the UK missed a generation ago to say, 'see ya! and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!' as they get deported en mass.

FrancieBrady

conorhal wrote: »

I'm baffled

I'm baffled that people believe a word the Indo writes.

conorhal

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I'm baffled that people believe a word the Indo writes.

You seem to be baffled by the fact that the guards had 70 people on a watch list as possible islamist terrorists? Despite a couple of those on that list being arrested for terror related offenses, and one participating in a terrorist attack in London this year?
I'm also baffled by the reflexive response of some, to having genuine terrorists in their midst, be a glib ' but the Indo eh? amirite?'

Samaris

conorhal wrote: »

I'm baffled as to why that list isn't reduced to zero by tomorrow, none of these people were here 20yrs ago, I doubt many of them are 'home grown' so we have a golden opportunity that the likes of France and the UK missed a generation ago to say, 'see ya! and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!' as they get deported en mass.

I wouldn't doubt too much regarding home-grown. A lot of them are, so that does make things awkward. There may also be small fry being tracked to get at bigger fish for many of the likely suspects. Whack-a-mole is one option, but without cutting the head off the cells, it's like weeding dandelions by pulling off the flowers rather than getting at the roots. Sure, it'll make them less visible (and may well take out a few who would actually commit an attack), but it leaves the roots free to keep infesting.

branie2

Security at Spanish tourist sites is going to be reinforced

AlekSmart

end of the road wrote: »

not in my opinion, but in fact. he was spanish


It doesn't matter. what he identifies himself as is irrelevant, he was Spanish.

Au contraire.

In the context of the current Islamic campaign against Western values and people,it matters VERY much what he (and his fellow savages) identify themselves as.

These attacks have a purpose enshrined deep within the perpetrators Islamic beliefs,which view the largely Catholic/Christian Spanish population as kuffir,Infidel,unbeliever...whatever of the multiple derisory Koranic classifications you feel most comfortable using.

To suggest that these peoples self-identies are irrelevant,is denying the very obvious reality that their Radical Muslim identity is the ONLY justification they can use to explain,what to most other observers,is murderous psychopathic abberance. :mad:

Widdershins

I've just seen a photo of a friend tagged on Facebook having drinks at Las Ramblas. It just seems weird to be drinking and socialising right after what happened there. I actually think people should stop doing these solidarity things and carrying on like it is ok People need to show the governments it is not ok, only then will they to do something.

McCrack

Widdershins wrote: »

I've just seen a photo of a friend tagged on Facebook having drinks at Las Ramblas. It just seems weird to be drinking and socialising right after what happened there. I actually think people should stop doing these solidarity things and carrying on like it is ok People need to show the governments it is not ok, only then will they to do something.

Your friend is doing the right thing.

Terrorists will not succed so long as people continue normal day to day life.

The moment that stops the ***** have won

Widdershins

McCrack wrote: »

Your friend is doing the right thing.

Terrorists will not succed so long as people continue normal day to day life.

The moment that stops the ***** have won

Every person they slaughter is a success in their mind. That's their idea of success. To kill as many as they can. They don't take peoples caution as a score. And pretending everything ok is nonsense. It's unnatural. Also I find it disrespectful to be socialising at the site of recent mass slaughter.

deaddonkey15

Widdershins wrote: »

I've just seen a photo of a friend tagged on Facebook having drinks at Las Ramblas. It just seems weird to be drinking and socialising right after what happened there. I actually think people should stop doing these solidarity things and carrying on like it is ok People need to show the governments it is not ok, only then will they to do something.

Indeed. Apparently people were flooding Twitter with cat photos so images of the Barcelona attack wouldn't be seen and enjoyed by the attackers. Too many people think they are making a difference and that we are somehow "winning" by carrying on as normal, tweeting "thoughts and prayers", using clever hashtags (#nothingtodowithislam, #thingsthatleavelondonreeling #refugeeswelcome #lovetrumpshate), getting a temporary filtered FB profile pic etc. whilst real people continue to be killed and maimed with alarming regularity. The people who are intent on bringing death and destruction to Europe must be laughing at how pathetic it all is and how easy it is for them to attack again as a result.

AlekSmart

Widdershins wrote: »

I've just seen a photo of a friend tagged on Facebook having drinks at Las Ramblas. It just seems weird to be drinking and socialising right after what happened there. I actually think people should stop doing these solidarity things and carrying on like it is ok People need to show the governments it is not ok, only then will they to do something.

But,the vast majority of people are NOT doing "solidarity things".

People,including presumably,your friend,are simply carrying on with their lives as best they can.
We can do this perfectly well,whilst coincidentally lobbying Governments to increase our protection levels,something which we cannot do if we retreat into a bunker far from the real World.

To suggest that the interpretation of the Koran instilled in some wild eyed 17 year old Spanish Muslim,by a devious manipulative,probably on-line,bearded Imam should be allowed to alter our Western normality,cuts to the chase about what level of acceptance we give to Radicalization from whatever belief structure it comes.

Eat,drink and be merry,for Tomorrow we Die,may well turn out to be accurate for some,but for the majority of US,it's business as usual and,up yours ISIS