ISIS Terrorist Attack in Barcelona

Rumpy Pumpy

Spanish security services are denying the claim that there was shooting.

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

There's a bit of a difference between spraying some graffiti on a wall telling Chinese tourists to fûck off, and running over kids on one of the busiest streets in Europe.

Hopefully you're right.

mfceiling

Strong Life in Dublin wrote: »

It's just part of living in a big city

Is it? I've lived in a few big cities in my life and I never expected some fcukwit to drive down a street mowing down pedestrians.

Knex*

Just a heads up, as there's a few videos on reddit of the incident that are apparently absolutely harrowing to watch. Involves small kids motionless on the ground after the van incident.

Reading a lot of shocked comments after people watched the video without being fully prepared/aware, so keep it in mind when searching for more info.

Danzy

We have to remember that the people who do these things have no idea why they do it but Middle Class Activists who were at home when it happened know that it had nothing to do with whatever the men who did it thought.

EagererBeaver

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Perhaps. The whole thing seems strange though. People claiming that there's "Death to all toursits" and "tourists f*ck off" painted on walls across the city. I've not been in Barcelona recently, so can't comment on it being accurate. People that have been there recently - have you seen such a thing?

The people claiming that are correct.

tupenny

Reports they've taken people hostage in restaurant

dublinman1990

dublinman1990 wrote: »

Reports from TVE24 are saying that 1 person is dead & 20 injured.

BBC now confirming that Spanish Police are not putting out figures now as they are not clear as of yet.

Against my better judgement I saw a clip of the aftermath. I could be a dick but all I'll say is there's more than one dead.

Danzy

Pussyhands wrote: »

Islam needs to be stopped.

I'd rather offend 1m people and save 1 life than pussyfoot around the issue and see people lay dead on the streets.

Any place of Worship where murder of or repression of others based on their religion or sexuality or gender is advocated needs to be closed down.

It is a basic enough and I think reasonable demand but it would end up with the Army on the Streets of many cities in Britain, France, Belgium etc etc

The_Kew_Tour

Its not even surprising anymore and its not going stop.

But yet again its children who are taking the hot and you know what its going happen here soon. And worst thing about it is that when it does it will be a shock to some.

Samuel T. Cogley

Pussyhands wrote: »

Islam needs to be stopped.

I'd rather offend 1m people and save 1 life than pussyfoot around the issue and see people lay dead on the streets.

These people are no more representative of Islam than the KKK are of Christians. If they we're doing it in the name of Allah they'd be doing it in someone else's so I really don't get why people always have to start going on about the religion of the people involved. If you want to label them give them an accurate one: Cùnts.

EagererBeaver

jacksie66 wrote: »

I was due to be in Barcelona 2 weeks today..

And?

Knex.

Knex. wrote: »

Just a heads up, as there's a few videos on reddit of the incident that are apparently absolutely harrowing to watch. Involves small kids motionless on the ground after the van incident.

Reading a lot of shocked comments after people watched the video without being fully prepared/aware, so keep it in mind when searching for more info.

I didn't see kids in the one I watched but there were 4 people motionless on the ground, one woman had lost a huge amount of blood from her head, another, for want of a better term, was bent out of shape.

screamer

murpho999 wrote: »

What is the solution?

The issue is certainly not ignored by society, media or politicians.

It's a major problem.

A radicalised minority of people with serious issues are conducting lone wolf attacks using Islam as the excuse.


No need for people to come on here and slate the entire religion. People seem to forget that the exact same things were said about Irish people by the British not too long ago after IRA atrocities.

Your claim that no one cares is ridiculous and you seem to be implying that more radical solutions should be done such as expelling all immigrants etc.

I imply nothing I brought no religion into it you did, so get down off your high horse. Irish people faced internment but maybe you don't remember that....
Anyway I could not disagree with you more. Publicising this stuff is glorifying it for it's horrific results and this is exactly what those who carry out these attacks want even crave. S media blackout is needed no glorification or advertising or footage to help with recruitment. Give them nada.

Samuel T. Cogley

EagererBeaver wrote: »

And?

So far the range is 9 years ago to two weeks in the future, to be fair that person was the only one there in the present, but wasn't.

JCX BXC

jacksie66 wrote: »

I was due to be in Barcelona 2 weeks today..

Jaysus you just missed it so!

Not.

Danzy

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

These people are no more representative of Islam than the KKK are of Christians. If they we're doing it in the name of Allah they'd be doing it in someone else's so I really don't get why people always have to start going on about the religion of the people involved. If you want to label them give them an accurate one: Cùnts.

Their version of Islam is as valid as any others.

It is a faith whose founder killed and raped his way across Arabia.

When you have some people who take it seriously it is only naturally going to end in violence.

That religiously mandated violence was the thing that developed Islam from a small cult in Arabia to having conquered from Western India to Southern France within a life time of Mohamed's death.

Two vans involved now. They are looking for the second.

ChikiChiki

FFS again. That Merkel wench should be firmly booted out of office for what she has brought to Europe through uncontrolled immigration. I don't expect this to get better anytime soon.

Resist ZOG

Danzy wrote: »

Their version of Islam is as valid as any others.

It is a faith whose founder killed and raped his way across Arabia.

When you have some people who take it seriously it is only naturally going to end in violence.

That religiously mandated violence was the thing that developed Islam from a small cult in Arabia to having conquered from Western India to Southern France within a life time of Mohamed's death.

Praise be to our ancestors who drove Islam out of Europe.

dublinman1990

Deleted User wrote: »

Against my better judgement I saw a clip of the aftermath. I could be a dick but all I'll say is there's more than one dead.

I did see a video of the aftermath of this on Twitter. It was quite upsetting to see it though. I could not put a figure on this attack myself. I will say that the perpetrators who carried out this attack today are complete heartless scumbags and should rot in hell.

An another update to say that Spanish police are to be holding a press conference at 6pm on the incident.

Jim Bob Scratcher

13 killed

Reddit Live thread, if you want to stay updated to the minute https://www.reddit.com/live/zgbfbqqsl4h4/

harr

At least 13 dead now...

Gamebred

One of the busiest streets in Europe where that happened, truly sickening footage going around social media of dead kids on the floor absolute animals, Spain was due an attack I was more expecting a beach resort tbh, Heading to Barcelona tomorrow I hope the police have flooded the place.

Jim Bob Scratcher

Knex. wrote: »

Just a heads up, as there's a few videos on reddit of the incident that are apparently absolutely harrowing to watch. Involves small kids motionless on the ground after the van incident.

Reading a lot of shocked comments after people watched the video without being fully prepared/aware, so keep it in mind when searching for more info.

Just saw one of those videos a few minutes ago. Really wish I hadn't watched it now

EagererBeaver

ChikiChiki wrote: »

FFS again. That Merkel wench should be firmly booted out of office for what she has brought to Europe through uncontrolled immigration. I don't expect this to get better anytime soon.

As you walk down the Rambla, on your right hand side is an area of town called El Raval. It has been a centre of immigration from North Africa, the Middle East, India and Pakistan for years and years. For all anyone knows, this lad or group of lads could be a Spaniard who grew up a hundred yards away.

Away and ****e with your anti immigrant nonsense.

Kermit.de.frog

I, for one, am going to wait for President Trump's considered, sensitive and thoughtful twitter response before engaging in idle speculation.

hmmm

It's about time we got a few bollards at the end of Grafton Street & Henry street in Dublin. There are deliveries in the morning, but it shouldn't be hard to install something that is time dependent. Grafton street in particular is very vulnerable to something coming from the Trinity side at speed - and I don't have much faith in our security forces and their "low risk" assurances, these isolated ****ers aren't too choosy about who they kill.

andekwarhola

Seriously doubt this is the anti tourism activists. They sound like platitudinous crusty types, not terrorist MO like this.

BillyBobBS

At least 13 dead and many kids. I feel heartbroken.

Strong Life in Dublin

jacksie66 wrote: »

I was due to be in Barcelona 2 weeks today..

No one care, millions of people are due to be there in 2 weeks

Samuel T. Cogley

Danzy wrote: »

Their version of Islam is as valid as any others.

It is a faith whose founder killed and raped his way across Arabia.

When you have some people who take it seriously it is only naturally going to end in violence.

That religiously mandated violence was the thing that developed Islam from a small cult in Arabia to having conquered from Western India to Southern France within a life time of Mohamed's death.

The corollary of that is that the KKK is a perfectly valid version of Christianity which unspeakable atrocities have been carried out in the name of.

I'm willing to accept the notion the harm of all religion outweighs it's positives but targeting just one during these times is unhelpful at best.

Mahony0509

Apparently the police are currently negotiating. If it is ISIS, they usually don't negotiate so I'm still quite confused as to who is doing this.

Police are negotiating right now with the people. They're in a Turkish restaurant.

Resist ZOG

EagererBeaver wrote: »

As you walk down the Rambla, on your right hand side is an area of town called El Raval. It has been a centre of immigration from North Africa, the Middle East, India and Pakistan for years and years. For all anyone knows, this lad or group of lads could be a Spaniard emo grew up a hundred yards away.

Away and ****e with your anti immigrant nonsense.

+1 for bringing some humour to a dreadful story.

tastyt

Pussyhands wrote: »

Islam needs to be stopped.

I'd rather offend 1m people and save 1 life than pussyfoot around the issue and see people lay dead on the streets.

Unfortunately, this is just the beginning. With all the refugees brought into Europe, we're going to have more generations of muslims in years to come. More radicalisation and more deaths.

This times 100. I dont want to be a " wont somebody please think of the children " merchant but its scary to think what Europe will be like for our children in 20/30 years. Mass immigration of people with incompatible beliefs and lunatics just waiting to radicalise them.

I fear theres a long and bloody war starting, the likes we havent seen before and yes, whatever bull**** you might want to believe, Islam is the main driver of this evil.

tiger55

Maybe people will say its Spain and their foreign policy to blame?

JPCN1

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

These people are no more representative of Islam than the KKK are of Christians. If they we're doing it in the name of Allah they'd be doing it in someone else's so I really don't get why people always have to start going on about the religion of the people involved. If you want to label them give them an accurate one: Cùnts.

Because they do this in the name of their religion... And you want us to ignore that??? FFS.

tiger55

Was Spain involved in Iraq?

Richard Hillman

Pussyhands wrote: »

Islam needs to be stopped.

I'd rather offend 1m people and save 1 life than pussyfoot around the issue and see people lay dead on the streets.

Unfortunately, this is just the beginning. With all the refugees brought into Europe, we're going to have more generations of muslims in years to come. More radicalisation and more deaths.

There was one country that saved Europe from Islam and it was the Spanish. We don't thank them enough and cannot thank them enough. We would be under sharia law if it were not for them.

Resist ZOG

tastyt wrote: »

This times 100. I dont want to be a " wont somebody please think of the children " merchant but its scary to think what Europe will be like for our children in 20/30 years. Mass immigration of people with incompatible beliefs and lunatics just waiting to radicalise them.

I fear theres a long and bloody war starting, the likes we havent seen before and yes, whatever bull**** you might want to believe, Islam is the main driver of this evil.

Europe won't go go down without a fight. Even the Swedes are rebelling.

EagererBeaver

Gamebred wrote: »

One of the busiest streets in Europe where that happened, truly sickening footage going around social media of dead kids on the floor absolute animals, Spain was due an attack I was more expecting a beach resort tbh, Heading to Barcelona tomorrow I hope the police have flooded the place.

Trust me, you don't. The place is already flooded with cops. There are three different police forces active in the city and they can't stop it. Heavily armed cops at any venue even remotely public. Haven't got over how unsettling it is since I moved here.

A lad drove a van. Very little anybody can do

ChikiChiki

EagererBeaver wrote: »

As you walk down the Rambla, on your right hand side is an area of town called El Raval. It has been a centre of immigration from North Africa, the Middle East, India and Pakistan for years and years. For all anyone knows, this lad or group of lads could be a Spaniard who grew up a hundred yards away.

Away and ****e with your anti immigrant nonsense.

Oh shut up. I'm not anti immigration. Im anti uncontrolled immigration. Theres a big difference so get off the ****ing pedastal.

Samuel T. Cogley

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

The corollary of that is that the KKK is a perfectly valid version of Christianity which unspeakable atrocities have been carried out in the name of.

I'm willing to accept the notion the harm of all religion outweighs it's positives but targeting just one during these times is unhelpful at best.

How many terrorist attacks have they carried out on major european cities this past ten years?

Didn't think so.

Ulysses Gaze

tiger55 wrote: »

Was Spain involved in Iraq?

Aznar backed it.

Gravelly

murpho999 wrote: »

What is the solution?

The issue is certainly not ignored by society, media or politicians.

It's a major problem.

A radicalised minority of people with serious issues are conducting lone wolf attacks using Islam as the excuse.


No need for people to come on here and slate the entire religion. People seem to forget that the exact same things were said about Irish people by the British not too long ago after IRA atrocities.

Your claim that no one cares is ridiculous and you seem to be implying that more radical solutions should be done such as expelling all immigrants etc.

It's astonishing that people still come out with this guff. You wonder is there any volume or type of atrocity that will ever open their eyes. Of course it could be just like-begging virtue-signalling.

pilly

Samuel T. Cogley wrote:

So far the range is 9 years ago to two weeks in the future, to be fair that person was the only one there in the present, but wasn't.

What?

tiger55

ChikiChiki wrote: »

FFS again. That Merkel wench should be firmly booted out of office for what she has brought to Europe through uncontrolled immigration. I don't expect this to get better anytime soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKy2mG5b7yM

Danzy

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

The corollary of that is that the KKK is a perfectly valid version of Christianity which unspeakable atrocities have been carried out in the name of.

I'm willing to accept the notion the harm of all religion outweighs it's positives but targeting just one during these times is unhelpful at best.

If it was mainstream teaching in Christianity about the sanctity of battle, how Jesus killed hundreds here, took slaves there and he was to be followed, then there would be a corollary.

It is a faith founded by a mass murdering rapist not some hippy dropout walking the streets of Nazareth.

Of course, there is going to be a difference of outcome when it comes to violence.

Just imagine how brutal the West's history would have been if Chris had ordered people burnt, beheaded, raped, stoned, mass executions, battles etc etc.

Beliefs acted upon is important as well.

Resist ZOG

Richard Hillman wrote: »

There was one country that saved Europe from Islam and it was the Spanish. We don't thank them enough and cannot thank them enough. We would be under sharia law if it were not for them.

We can also be grateful to the Christian armies of Central and Eastern Europe. Never forget that Islam was on the doorstep of Vienna.