ISIS Terrorist Attack in Barcelona

Gamebred

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Trust me, you don't. The place is already flooded with cops. There are three different police forces active in the city and they can't stop it. Heavily armed cops at any venue even remotely public. Haven't got over how unsettling it is since I moved here.

A lad drove a van. Very little anybody can do

Must be recent I was there this week last year and I thought it was grand the whispers about pick pockets ect I found to be exaggerations but a lot has happened in Europe in the last year I suppose, planning on going the Nou Camp Sunday but this has really put a dampner on the trip to be honest after seeing the video of dead children.

EagererBeaver

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Oh shut up. I'm not anti immigration. Im anti uncontrolled immigration. Theres a big difference so get off the ****ing pedastal.

You have zero evidence that this has anything to do with Angela Merkel or uncontrolled immigration (a myth in itself). Zero. So **** away off yourself.

catrat12

13 dead and rising now

tiger55

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

tiger55 wrote: »

Was Spain involved in Iraq?

Aznar backed it.

So did many countries in the middle east

Samuel T. Cogley

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

The corollary of that is that the KKK is a perfectly valid version of Christianity which unspeakable atrocities have been carried out in the name of.

I'm willing to accept the notion the harm of all religion outweighs it's positives but targeting just one during these times is unhelpful at best.

A tiny minority, look at the others, look over there.

Pretending that islam is just the same as the Rastas is disingenuous to be massively polite. It's a tiny minority of people in Europe yet is responsible for a disproportionate amount of attacks and deaths. Yer one in UK Labour was hounded out for saying the racial motivation of grooming gangs in the UK should be examined.

This bull**** handwaving has to end. People still haven't learned from Trump's election.

pilly

Deleted User wrote:

Perhaps. The whole thing seems strange though. People claiming that there's "Death to all toursits" and "tourists f*ck off" painted on walls across the city. I've not been in Barcelona recently, so can't comment on it being accurate. People that have been there recently - have you seen such a thing?

This has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen on Boards.

Anti tourist people are running down kids? Get a grip.

Gamebred

Gamebred wrote: »

planning on going the Nou Camp Sunday but this has really put a dampner on the trip to be honest after seeing the video of dead children.

Jesus how terrible for u

Danzy

tiger55 wrote: »

Was Spain involved in Iraq?

Countries that opposed the involvement in Iraq have been harder hit than those that did not.

The Islamic State themselves have said that it is not a key motivator for them.

pilly

Gamebred wrote:

Must be recent I was there this week last year and I thought it was grand the whispers about pick pockets ect I found to be exaggerations but a lot has happened in Europe in the last year I suppose, planning on going the Nou Camp Sunday but this has really put a dampner on the trip to be honest after seeing the video of dead children.

Really??

Gravelly

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

The corollary of that is that the KKK is a perfectly valid version of Christianity which unspeakable atrocities have been carried out in the name of.

I'm willing to accept the notion the harm of all religion outweighs it's positives but targeting just one during these times is unhelpful at best.

The KKK isn't a version of Christianity. It's a racist organisation that, in recent years, has about as much power as my local boy scout chapter.

If you can't see how much more dangerous Islam is to Europe than Christianity at the present time, you are deluded.

JPCN1

Richard Hillman wrote: »

There was one country that saved Europe from Islam and it was the Spanish. We don't thank them enough and cannot thank them enough. We would be under sharia law if it were not for them.

Perhaps once but they have kept coming through history and the Poles, Austrians and The Hammer Martel (top name that) turned them back at various points.
Sadly the French and Germans seem to like wars because they are causing one again right now by their actions.

Gamebred

Deleted User wrote: »

Jesus how terrible for u

Yeah it is, and same goes for anybody with a heart, moron.

pilly

pilly wrote: »

This has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen on Boards.

Anti tourist people are running down kids? Get a grip.

You could, I dunno, go to Reddit and complain about it there? Since it's where it was mentioned, which is what I stated.

Danzy wrote: »

Countries that opposed the involvement in Iraq have been harder hit than those that did not.

The Islamic State themselves have said that it is not a key motivator for them.

Wait, really? They're targeting countries that opposed the invasion harder than those activity involved in it?

Noel82

Time to light some candles, Tweet some hashtags and blame Donald Trump

ChikiChiki

Noel82 wrote: »

Time to light some candles, Tweet some hashtags and blame Donald Trump

Don't forget the flagged facebook photo.

Danzy

Deleted User wrote: »

A tiny minority, look at the others, look over there.

Pretending that islam is just the same as the Rastas is disingenuous to be massively polite. It's a tiny minority of people in Europe yet is responsible for a disproportionate amount of attacks and deaths. Yer one in UK Labour was hounded out for saying the racial motivation of grooming gangs in the UK should be examined.

This bull**** handwaving has to end. People still haven't learned from Trump's election.

The Samuel T. Colgey types look at the perps of this and see brown people and presume that others are angry at this because they are brown, they only can think in terms of pigmentation. I look at them and see a mindset and ideology.

Afterall, but for Islam's conquests in the 7th Century, these people would be the centre of the Christian World.

That differeing ideology is the key.

EagererBeaver

Gamebred wrote: »

Must be recent I was there this week last year and I thought it was grand the whispers about pick pockets ect I found to be exaggerations but a lot has happened in Europe in the last year I suppose, planning on going the Nou Camp Sunday but this has really put a dampner on the trip to be honest after seeing the video of dead children.

Go. Enjoy yourself. Want any advice or recommendations, give me a shout.

flaneur

I'm starting to feel like I just don't know what to say when these things happen anymore. It's just more of a feeling of frustrated numbness.

They're not even a normal terrorist organisation with demands you could begin to negotiate with. I mean, with 'normal' terrorists there is at least some kind of set of reasonably rational political demands. You might not agree with them, but they're still something you could actually negotiate on.

With these attacks it's more just like a lashing out at the 'western world' and inflicting misery on random people minding their own business.

My thoughts are with the victims and it certainly won't ever make me stop visiting Barcelona.

blinding

Where are the Politicians that let these nutters into Europe.....

Safe and well Protected.........Fookers.....

EndaHonesty

Gamebred wrote: »

Yeah it is, and same goes for anybody with a heart, moron.

#prayforgamebred

ceadaoin.

pilly wrote: »

This has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen on Boards.

Anti tourist people are running down kids? Get a grip.

To be expected from that poster. He comes on every one of these threads denouncing people for speculating and then posts some ridiculously unrealistic speculative nonsense. Maybe he'll get it right one day

Guy Sajer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You could, I dunno, go to Reddit and complain about it there? Since it's where it was mentioned, which is what I stated.



Wait, really? They're targeting countries that opposed the invasion harder than those activity involved in it?

Where did anybody say that??

tiger55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTDxFGUWQC4

Pkiernan

We need more uncontrolled unchecked immigration from the Middle East. And no-one should dare do background checks either.

What in earth could go wrong.

More of Merkels dead....

Gamebred

tiger55 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkRsJ0sqArA

Disgusting video ffs zero need to post dead people :rolleyes:

yerwanthere123

Wow, 13 people have died.

CaptainR

A few months ago I was wondering how or why Spain hadn't been hit since these attacks began in 2015, I found a video of an interview with a Spanish detective who basically said how their experience with ETA had prepared them much better than the French or Belgian authorities.

Their intelligence network is one of the best in Europe apparently.

Today's attack just shows how simple these types of attacks are to carry out without detection.

A Little Pony

I'm not sure the foreign policy excuse can be used on this but no doubt some will try.

EndaHonesty

Gamebred wrote: »

Disgusting video ffs zero need to post dead people :rolleyes:

So disgusting you quoted it to draw more attention to it... :rolleyes:

Negotiations still on-going with two in the restaurant. Driver is still missing. Since there's two vans supposedly involved now, perhaps the driver that is missing was the one that ploughed into the crowd? And the two were in the other van?

Or did people hear reports of the three in one van?

If there are two vans and the hostage takers were in the second, it seems odder still that they might have pulled over and just ran into the restaurant to take hostages.

JP Liz V1

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Wow, 13 people have died.

Think more, RIP

blinding

Pkiernan wrote: »

We need more uncontrolled unchecked immigration from the Middle East. And no-one should dare do background checks either.

What in earth could go wrong.

More of Merkels dead....

And let some of them go around masked up so that nobody knows who they are........like there is no security risk.

Fook our politicians .

Resist ZOG

flaneur wrote: »

I'm starting to feel like I just don't know what to say when these things happen anymore. It's just more of a feeling of frustrated numbness.

They're not even a normal terrorist organisation with demands you could begin to negotiate with. I mean, with 'normal' terrorists there is at least some kind of set of reasonably rational political demands. You might not agree with them, but they're still something you could actually negotiate on.

With these attacks it's more just like a lashing out at the 'western world' and inflicting misery on random people minding their own business.

My thoughts are with the victims and it certainly won't ever make me stop visiting Barcelona.

I know what I feel and what to say: anger and hate. I want to kill those who hate me, my country, may family. I want every slimy, pathetic, miserable Islamist to be tortured to death and then burn in hell.

Guy Sajer

Guy Sajer wrote: »

Where did anybody say that??

Say which, exactly? I was commenting on two separate posts, so not sure which you're addressing.

Mahony0509

I still find it incredibly unusual that they've ran into a bar. People after the van hit, in videos, were walking around incredibly calmly, which indicates they didn't attack after the van hit.

Danzy

Pkiernan wrote: »

We need more uncontrolled unchecked immigration from the Middle East. And no-one should dare do background checks either.

What in earth could go wrong.

More of Merkels dead....

Merkeled.

blinding

tiger55 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTDxFGUWQC4

We have to look at this .

We have to look at what our politicians are doing to us .

Guy Sajer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Say which, exactly? I was commenting on two separate posts, so not sure which you're addressing.

That they are targeting countries not involved in conflict in middle east/Asia over countries involved.

Second van found 40km away.

Danzy

blinding wrote: »

We have to look at this .

We have to look at what our politicians are doing to us .

It should be on the 9 o'Clock News.

AudreyHepburn

Absolutely horrific.....when will it end? How many more attacks will it take before those in power realise the softly softly approach is not working?

castletownman

Two family members had a picture on FB of being in Barcelona together, with what looked like Las Ramblas in the background, five hours ago.

Naturally nervous as hell now waiting to know if they are okay.

screamer

blinding wrote: »

We have to look at this .

We have to look at what our politicians are doing to us .

No no that's the price of freedom....nothing to do with our politicians....(sarcastic face)

Guy Sajer

Guy Sajer wrote: »

That they are targeting countries not involved in conflict in middle east/Asia over countries involved.

Second van found 40km away.

Danzy did. It appears in the quoted text. I might have misunderstood, hence my questioning.

pearcider

blinding wrote: »

We have to look at this .

We have to look at what our politicians are doing to us .

Agree 100%. Its the media playing down the threat that is Hard for me to stomach. Stopping the madness of Islamic immigration into Europe is the obvious policy choice here. Images like this undermine the neo liberal pro immigration agenda and make it more difficult for the merkels of this world to ram their rubbish down our throats. Of course I expect the usual whitewash and peace vigils.

Kermit.de.frog

These people with their phones videoing everything right after these incidents... One of the more distasteful side effects of mobile technology.

Could at least try to help.

castletownman

castletownman wrote: »

Two family members had a picture on FB of being in Barcelona together, with what looked like Las Ramblas in the background, five hours ago.

Naturally nervous as hell now waiting to know if they are okay.

Fingers crossed for ya man.

Resist ZOG

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

These people with their phones videoing everything right after these incidents... One of the more distasteful side effects of mobile technology.

Could at least try to help.

I think it's better that we see what Islam does to Europe. The media will never show you the reality. Very hard to watch but necessary.

Spanish Eyes

Shocking once again.

What I do find very distressing is the fact that dead bodies are lying there in the street, and people are walking up and down (obviously in shock), but no one from a bar or restaurant or an apartment had a tablecloth or blanket to cover them for their dignity. Or even a t shirt, oh I don't know. Although I realise it had just happened, but still.

Nettle Soup

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

These people with their phones videoing everything right after these incidents... One of the more distasteful side effects of mobile technology.

Could at least try to help.

Yeah it's insane.

There are also ghouls on these threads that get more excited as the body count rises.

Gravelly

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

These people and their phones videoing everything right after these incidents... One of the more distasteful side effects of mobile technology.

Distasteful yes, but I wonder if they are keeping our media some bit honest. Given the media attempts to deflect, minimise, and disperse blame for these attacks, I fear that without witness collaboration, we would be hearing media stories about a spate of unexplained vehicle accidents, mentally ill lone wolf shooters, or better still, right wing attacks.