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Tina Satchwell News updates MOD NOTE POST ONE

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭joey1111


    Just reading here that a large portion of the cctv coverage is deleted due to the lapsed time. Surely this should've been the first thing to gather?

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/newsireland/cctv-setback-for-gardaí-in-search-for-missing-tina/ar-BBJZWy8?ocid=spartanntp


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭RockDesk


    joey1111 wrote: »
    Just reading here that a large portion of the cctv coverage is deleted due to the lapsed time. Surely this should've been the first thing to gather?

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/newsireland/cctv-setback-for-gardaí-in-search-for-missing-tina/ar-BBJZWy8?ocid=spartanntp

    I reckon it's CCTV from around the current search area which they wouldn't have looked for at the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭RockDesk


    Can someone confirm this.

    He said that he himself had disappeared for a year before, that's why he believes Tina has done the same.

    I only found out from this thread recently that he had been in prison in the UK. Are these two the same times? Was he initially pretending he had disappeared and later it was found out that he was actually in prison, or are they 2 different times? Or has he said anything about the prison time himself??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    This was a fear of mine.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-hunt-for-missing-tina-suffers-setback-as-cctv-footage-deleted-36682447.html

    The gardai may have spent so long believing it was a simple missing persons case that crucial cctv evidence has since been wiped.

    The husband encouraged everyone to believe it was a missing persons case and continues to do so. Lets hope the gardai have cctv to examine his movements otherwise he may never be ruled in our out as a suspect.

    Hopefully the gardai haven't made a b*lls of this investigation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 781 ✭✭✭davyboy1975


    RockDesk wrote: »
    Can someone confirm this.

    He said that he himself had disappeared for a year before, that's why he believes Tina has done the same.

    I only found out from this thread recently that he had been in prison in the UK. Are these two the same times? Was he initially pretending he had disappeared and later it was found out that he was actually in prison, or are they 2 different times? Or has he said anything about the prison time himself??

    Would imagine he diesnt want to broadcast he was in prison for a year. He did say he would ring her everyday while he was away so wasnt really missing ir disappeared


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  • Registered Users Posts: 30,596 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    RockDesk wrote: »
    Can someone confirm this.

    He said that he himself had disappeared for a year before, that's why he believes Tina has done the same.

    I only found out from this thread recently that he had been in prison in the UK. Are these two the same times? Was he initially pretending he had disappeared and later it was found out that he was actually in prison, or are they 2 different times? Or has he said anything about the prison time himself??

    I am a little lost with this to. He said he went to jail and another time he said he needed a bit of time out. Can't work it out fully.
    Another thing that hard to get your heard around is when were they in Ireland and the UK. It hard to pinpoint exactly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭RockDesk


    This was a fear of mine.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/newsireland/cctv-setback-for-gardaí-in-search-for-missing-tina/ar-BBJZWy8?ocid=spartanntp

    The gardai may have spent so long believing it was a simple missing persons case that crucial cctv evidence has since been wiped.

    The husband encouraged everyone to believe it was a missing persons case and continues to do so. Lets hope the gardai have cctv to examine his movements otherwise he may never be ruled in our out as a suspect.

    Hopefully the gardai haven't made a b*lls of this investigation.


    It's CCTV from the area being searched. This isn't the fault of the gardaí.


  • Registered Users Posts: 781 ✭✭✭davyboy1975


    RockDesk wrote: »
    Oh did he? Didn't realise he'd said that.

    Yeah he said it this morning that he rang her everyday


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,596 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Am I right in thinking their lives just revolved round each other? He does a lot of 'Tina told me' 'Tina said to me' 'Tina's wishes were' etc etc, doesn't seem to be anyone else knows anything about her.

    Yes, he fell out with his family. They didn't speak for years. He didn't even tell them about Tina being missing.
    I'm sure of the set up with her family they had. He gave the impression at times they weren't overly close but when she went missing he just amused she went to visit them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭RockDesk


    Yeah he said it this morning that he rang her everyday


    I'm saving that interview for when I get home from work! :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 30,596 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Would imagine he diesnt want to broadcast he was in prison for a year. He did say he would ring her everyday while he was away so wasnt really missing ir disappeared

    It's already broadcasted tough.
    At one stage he said he needed time away to clear his head.(Or there abouts) and another time he said he was in prison.
    Then he thought Tina needed time to herself like he did. He wasn't exactly clearing his head in prison now and it wasn't willing time away.
    He should really clear it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,596 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Yes, I can't believe he is leaving the crowd in AH in suspense like this.

    If he sat down with somebody in the media and did a good interview and just verified everything he has said so far. Lot's of things are patchy and confusing and it's the reason he's getting so much hassle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,273 ✭✭✭jh79


    He was om Ireland AM this morning, on the couch with his dog!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    jh79 wrote: »
    He was om Ireland AM this morning, on the couch with his dog!

    So why are RTE & TV3 doing all these interviews and reports still? I'd have thought there was so little new to report after the initial interviews way back, they'd have moved on from it by now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,596 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Comhra wrote: »
    So why are RTE & TV3 doing all these interviews and reports still? I'd have thought there was so little new to report after the initial interviews way back, they'd have moved on from it by now?

    I suppose the recent dig and the fact it's coming up to the first Anniversary of her going missing are the reasons it's in the news again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    valoren wrote: »
    If she had problems with depression according to him then it just doesn't stack up that he would wait 4 days to report her missing, to either the Guards or her family. If you are with someone and you know they have such issues then you'd realisitically be raising the alarm bells pretty quickly particularly considering the apparent abrupt nature she supposedly left. To explain that lapse he is, as mentioned, retrofitting imagined discussions they've had about taking time away from each other to deflect from the bizarre decision to wait 4 days.

    Sure, he might not get along with her family but he would have at a minimum contacted them as soon as was reasonable to inform them she'd gone walkabout and to find out if they knew where she was as he was worried about her considering her (supposed) depression problems.

    He promised her that she'd never have to take antidepressants so couldn't let it be known that she might have depression at the time,laughable explanation by him..


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 FatBallerina


    Just watched his interview on TV3 this interview this morning. He said there was no cctv where they lived, but isn't there a credit union right across the road?! They usually have several cameras.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    Just watched his interview on TV3 this interview this morning. He said there was no cctv where they lived, but isn't there a credit union right across the road?! They usually have several cameras.

    I'd say youghal is insignificant at this stage......


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 FatBallerina


    fepper wrote: »
    I'd say youghal is insignificant at this stage......

    I agree, but a cctv across the road would surely have shown her either leaving the house or not coming back at all. Is footage wiped that quickly?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭valoren


    Just watched his interview on TV3 this interview this morning. He said there was no cctv where they lived, but isn't there a credit union right across the road?! They usually have several cameras.

    The house is marked X and the credit union camera is on the right. Mind you this is from 2011 and not sure if still there in the same set up. If so then given it's orientation it might have seen Tina leaving the house.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 41 quizzical


    Anyone have a link for this mornings interview??


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 FatBallerina


    quizzical wrote: »
    Anyone have a link for this mornings interview??

    Can't post a link but it's on the TV3 Player


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,596 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I haven't seen Ireland AM either but it's in the video somewhere below!

    https://www.tv3.ie/3player/byday/tv3/08-03-2018/


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 FatBallerina


    quizzical wrote: »
    Anyone have a link for this mornings interview??

    https://www.tv3.ie/3player/show/809/140215/0/Richard-Satchwell

    There it is, not sure why it wouldn't show up before.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Richard Satchwell has said that he no longer believes he is a suspect in the investigation into his wife Tina's disappearance.
    Tina (45) vanished without a trace from her home in Youghal on March 20 last year and her husband has said that, while he initially thought gardai suspected he was involved in her disappearance, he doesn't think that now and is helping them with every aspect of their investigation.
    Speaking on TV3's Ireland AM this morning, Richard said he believes he is not a suspect in the case of his missing wife.

    "They've not voiced it [that I am a suspect] but their actions are different," Richard said.

    Interesting conclusion to draw.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/i-dont-believe-i-am-a-suspect-in-my-wife-tinas-disappearance-richard-satchwell-36682756.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Personally not a Facebook/ social media fan but does anyone know if Tina used social media? I havn't seen any reports that she did or if any evidence was gathered from these?

    Nowadays many cases are broken with the help of evidence from pcs / laptops and social media accounts. There is always the chance that these may have been deleted. Good IT forensics though can generally recover at least some relevant information.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,596 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    gozunda wrote: »
    Personally not a Facebook/ social media fan but does anyone know if Tina used social media? I havn't seen any reports that she did or if any evidence was gathered from these?

    Nowadays many cases are broken with the help of evidence from pcs / laptops and social media accounts. There is always the chance that these may have been deleted. Good IT forensics though can generally recover at least some relevant information.

    He did say she wasn't big into her phone and that they only really had each other. That's all I can answer to this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,398 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Just to clarify a minor detail.

    Tina would be 47 not 45 as is persistently reported.

    If anyone doubts that statement, go back through the years reporting and interviews and do the math on when they met and how long they are together etc.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭RockDesk


    Richard is on 3 news' 12.30 bulletin. Just saw a tweet about it there.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,398 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    This mornings interview for those that missed it.

    Thursday 8 March 2018

    I don't believe I am a suspect in my wife Tina's disappearance - Richard Satchwell
    Richard Satchwell no longer believes he is a suspect in the investigation into his missing wife Tina
    Husband of missing woman says he believes Tina (45) is still alive
    Speaks as searches are ongoing in Mitchel's Woods in Castlemartyr, east Cork
    Gardaí using specialist equipment to search area following 'credible tip-off'

    Richard Satchwell pictured at his home holding a photo of wife Tina

    Richard Satchwell has said that he no longer believes he is a suspect in the investigation into his wife Tina's disappearance.
    Tina (45) vanished without a trace from her home in Youghal on March 20 last year and her husband has said that, while he initially thought gardai suspected he was involved in her disappearance, he doesn't think that now and is helping them with every aspect of their investigation.
    Speaking on TV3's Ireland AM this morning, Richard said he believes he is not a suspect in the case of his missing wife.
    "They've not voiced it [that I am a suspect] but their actions are different," Richard said.


    "I went into the guards of my own accord, I made a statement and I'm not ashamed to say I was an emotional mess, I did more crying than talking.
    "No, I did originally [think they believed I was a suspect] but then originally everything was all raw with her being gone, the house was searched, I was confused and now I feel that I am not.

    "Anything that the guards ask for I am providing.
    "Our [phone] network has gone into liquidation so I've already swapped the number on her phone because I believe that's the one she would call and the guards have that and I'll be handing the new phone to the guards tomorrow."
    Read More: Garda hunt for missing Tina suffers setback as CCTV footage deleted
    Richard said that while things were good between the couple, he claimed other family issues had taken a toll on Tina and he believes she may have left Cork to clear her head.
    He explained: "There's a lot of stuff that I don't want to have out there because I know Tina wouldn't want it out there.


    "As a couple we weren't going through a hard time, we celebrated our 25th anniversary just before Christmas and everything was good.

    "She got up Christmas morning and said let's make this our best Christmas we have ever had, for the first time we took photos of Christmas Day.
    "There were things going on, I've had people who knew her say you could see the upset in her eyes in those Christmas photos but when you live so close to her you don't see everything that is going on.
    "One of Tina's fears was ending up on anti depressants, she made me promise she would never have to, she said that from day one."

    'Someone had to give a helping hand [to Tina] somewhere, you can't just up and leave without help from anybody' - Richard Satchwell
    He continued to say: "I think she needed to get out, I did it myself in 2002, the difference was we sat down and discussed it.
    "We spoke every night on the phone but I left for a year to sort myself out, I went to England and got a job, I sent money back to help her out...
    "From time to time she said that if she ever got up and went and if I went after her she would go to the guards, and then 20 minutes later she would say that she had never said that.
    "That was the way she was, one minute she could be sitting down laughing and the next she was crying."
    Read More: 'Tina would not go near those woods... she wouldn't even go near strange woods with me' - Richard Satchwell
    He said the day his wife Tina went missing "started like any other".

    DISAPPEARANCE: Tina Satchwell has been missing from her home in Youghal, Co Cork, since March 20
    But then, he left their home for two hours to run errands and when he returned Tina was gone, her keys were on the floor and her beloved dog Ruby was left alone, which he said was "unusual".
    Richard said the reason her did not report her missing for four days was because he thought she might have gone to stay with friends or family in Fermoy.
    "I gave her the space she said she would want, I had to to go to the doctors on the Friday and before that I went to her sister and brothers and when I found out she wasn't with them but it was like the floor fell away from me," he said.
    "I just went to them on the Friday, I had been 100pc positive she was gone to Fermoy, I didn't have any reason to believe anything else because that's where she's from, where her friends are and where she would have accommodation."
    Following a phone tip-off from a "credible witness", a team of 60 personnel began searching Mitchel's Wood near Castlemartyr on Monday.
    CCTV security camera footage from various premises in the east Cork village has been examined as part of that search.
    Unfortunately, a quantity of CCTV footage was deleted because of the significant time lapse involve
    Richard said he is "not mentally strong enough" to consider the possibility that his wife is no longer alive and he thinks someone must have helped her to leave Youghal.
    He said: "I just want her to get in touch with somebody, anybody, just so we know she's all right.
    "I know there's someone out there who helped her to get out of Youghal and I think that person should be ashamed of themselves for leaving the stress they've left behind, not only with me but with her family.
    "I can't see any other way she would have got away from Youghal, the guards have gone through the CCTV of the buses and there's no CCTV footage where we are living but if she was on public transport she would have been caught on CCTV."

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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