Dublin One Religious Colonisation

gizmo81

What has happened the area from North Earl Street across O'Connell Street down Henry street?

Street Preaching should be restricted like any other 'Street Performer'.

The Irish for the most part rejected organised religion in the last 20 years and I find it sad to see these new religions take a hold here.

I don't want 'Jesus will save you' shouted at people walking down the street.

I hate organised religion, I agree that religious people have freedoms under the constitution but organisations/businesses should not.

And Religious Organisations like Iona should not be tax exempt.

To clarify, there were numerous groups yesterday including some sort of JOHN:27 Choir/Samba Troupe outside Arnotts with amplification.

gizmo81

gizmo81 wrote: »

What has happened the area from North Earl Street across O'Connell Street down Henry street?

Today it was impossible to get down Henry Street the amount of different religious people vying for your attention.

A group of South American Singers shouting about John 6.74 or whatever.

Jehovah Witnesses at the GPO everyday and some preacher outside Kylemore.

This irritates me no end, we fought hard in this country to be free from Religion that we don't need to import it. The fact they choose the site of one of the biggest battle for Irish freedom is particularly galling.

I am sick of it and would like to see some restrictions on street preaching.

Upper Talbot street has some sort of Muslim prayer room at the top of it. Been very busy there some days for years now.

LionelNashe

Did we fight hard to be free from religion? Or did we just pretend we were going to mass, while in reality walking around the neighbourhood or standing at the back of the church, and then stop going completely as soon as we moved out of home?

me_irl

Just let people believe in their own version of an imaginary friend in the sky who sees everything you do if it makes them happy.

I'd say avoid the street / area and don't let it get to you. If they don't have an audience, they don't have any power.

Also... Dublin Forum?

sjb25

gizmo81 wrote: »

What has happened the area from North Earl Street across O'Connell Street down Henry street?

Today it was impossible to get down Henry Street the amount of different religious people vying for your attention.

A group of South American Singers shouting about John 6.74 or whatever.

Jehovah Witnesses at the GPO everyday and some preacher outside Kylemore.

This irritates me no end, we fought hard in this country to be free from Religion that we don't need to import it. The fact they choose the site of one of the biggest battle for Irish freedom is particularly galling.

I am sick of it and would like to see some restrictions on street preaching.

Well

gizmo81

I find it interesting that it's concentrated in this area.

Would it be tolerated on Grafton Street?

Why should I avoid the streets of the city I was born in?

I don't believe a city should have a no go area every weekend because people are preaching on the street.

gizmo81

Also, as a gay man I have to listen to a berating once a year for the pride celebration and commemoration but the Holy Mary's can take over town any day they want.

suicide_circus

gizmo81 wrote: »

A group of South American Singers shouting about John 6.74 or whatever.

"And he left them and went out of the city, into Bethany, and he lodged there?"

Are Am Eye

I hear Bethany can lovely this time of year.

me_irl

suicide_circus wrote: »

"And he left them and went out of the city, into Bethany, and he lodged there?"

That Bethany... Up to her whoring antics again!

somesoldiers

Beats fighting your way through junkies I suppose, least the zealots aren't going to tap you up for money for a hostel, smokes, gear etc

What with religious fundamentalists preaching to me as I walk down the street and capitalist fundamentalists preaching to me via incessant adverts/promotions on radios/papers/tvs, I wish they'd all just fúck off and give my head peace.

I long for a day when I can travel on a bus, wait in a doctor's or dentist's waiting room, or hospital waiting room or airport or train station or indeed anywhere without having radio and tv noise imposed upon my peace and personal space. All these parasitic cúnts trying to get a piece of me with their bullshít buy, buy, buy messages. There should be a law protecting us from this.

gizmo81

suicide_circus wrote: »

"And he left them and went out of the city, into Bethany, and he lodged there?"

I think it was a 27

Jim Bob Scratcher

As long as they are not physically attacking people then they're doing no harm, live and let live and all that...

sjb25

suicide_circus wrote: »

", into Bethany, and he lodged there?"

.

gizmo81

somesoldiers wrote: »

Beats fighting your way through junkies I suppose, least the zealots aren't going to tap you up for money for a hostel, smokes, gear etc

They will tap you for money for anti-abortion/anti-gay rights campaigns.

amcalester

gizmo81 wrote: »

Also, as a gay man I have to listen to a berating once a year for the pride celebration and commemoration but the Holy Mary's can take over town any day they want.

Nothing stopping you setting up a counter-protest to whatever is going on.

It'd be better than posting on here about it.

And it's hardly a no go area, maybe you just need to stay in your safe place.

B.A._Baracus

Or... just perhaps live and let live?

Prickly Pete

gizmo81 wrote: »

Also, as a gay man I have to listen to a berating once a year for the pride celebration and commemoration but the Holy Mary's can take over town any day they want.

Have streets been shut down and traffic closed for all these preachers like it is for the gay pride parade?

There are some there every day on top of all the buskers I imagine it's busier at the weekend as they're not in work at the weekend just ignore them and move on.

Are Am Eye

It was probably John 3:1 - 21.

That's an old favorite. Has aged well, still a classic.

sabat

gizmo81 wrote: »

This irritates me no end, we fought hard in this country to be free from Religion that we don't need to import it. The fact they choose the site of one of the biggest battle for Irish freedom is particularly galling.

The 1916 lads were a pretty devout bunch, no?

gizmo81

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

As long as they are not physically attacking people then they're doing no harm, live and let live and all that...

Religion = Harm

pjohnson

Stay inside in your safe zone. Best way to avoid dissenting opinion.

Prickly Pete

gizmo81 wrote: »

Religion = Harm

Not really, most religious people tend to be fairly harmless.

sjb25

sabat wrote: »

The 1916 lads were a pretty devout bunch, no?

I may be wrong but I believe a priest was sent for prayers at one stage

Jim Bob Scratcher

gizmo81 wrote: »

Religion = Harm

Did they come at you with a knife or something ?

gizmo81

I think in 2017 we should be moving away from religion.

Religion is a tool of oppression, historically use to control the poor and the ignorant.

Nekarsulm

gizmo81 wrote: »

What has happened the area from North Earl Street across O'Connell Street down Henry street?

Today it was impossible to get down Henry Street the amount of different religious people vying for your attention.

A group of South American Singers shouting about John 6.74 or whatever.

Jehovah Witnesses at the GPO everyday and some preacher outside Kylemore.

This irritates me no end, we fought hard in this country to be free from Religion that we don't need to import it. The fact they choose the site of one of the biggest battle for Irish freedom is particularly galling.

I am sick of it and would like to see some restrictions on street preaching.

We fought hard in this country in 1916 to remove one imperial power based in Britain, and replaced it with another imperial power based in Rome.
100 years later, you finally woke up and noticed?

gizmo81

Regular Irish people fought to move away from the Church in the 80/90's with the scandals that were revealed.

Prickly Pete

gizmo81 wrote: »

I think in 2017 we should be moving away from religion.

Religion is a tool of oppression, historically use to control the poor and the ignorant.

It also provides a lot of people with hope and a level of meaning to their lives.

As long as they are not causing any direct hassle to anybody they are no worse than buskers on the streets.

gizmo81

People should be strong enough.

As a gay man I don't understand weakness.

amcalester

gizmo81 wrote: »

As a gay man I don't understand weakness.

Do gay men not have weaknesses?

Or do you just not understand the word?

pjohnson

gizmo81 wrote: »

People should be strong enough and have that within them.

As a gay man I don't understand weakness.

Naturally the only solution is to eliminate the issue. Just since YOU dont understand.

Prickly Pete

gizmo81 wrote: »

People should be strong enough.

As a gay man I don't understand weakness.

Some people would say that you should be strong enough to avoid being gay.

Think of how that would make you feel when you decide to judge others.

gizmo81

Prickly Pete wrote: »

Some people would say that you should be strong enough to avoid being gay.

Think of how that would make you feel when you decide to judge others.

Religion is a choice.

Sexuality is not.

Prickly Pete

gizmo81 wrote: »

Religion is a choice.

Sexuality is not.

For some people it isn't a choice it's a calling or a way of life. They get brought up in a religious family or it helps them find meaning in the world and they are drawn towards it.


As long as they are no causing any trouble for anyone , and I see these religious preachers everyday going from work then I don't see what the fuss is.

You're just complaining for the sake of it.

gizmo81

Being gay is a gift, why would anyone avoid it?

pjohnson

gizmo81 wrote: »

Being gay is a gift, why would anyone avoid it?

Because they prefer to have sexual relations with members of the opposite sex?

You are a confused chap.

gizmo81

Nope, no confusion. gay as Christmas here.

Esel

Trigger is dead, but he will rise again.

Free personality test, anyone?

gizmo81

Esel wrote: »

Trigger is dead, but he will rise again.

Free personality test, anyone?

Don't take a test, I'm sure you have a personality or if not there's people down by Henry Street who may help.

branie2

suicide_circus wrote: »

"And he left them and went out of the city, into Bethany, and he lodged there?"

Yes. Think about it.

pjohnson

gizmo81 wrote: »

Nope, no confusion. gay as Christmas here.

Christmas celebrates the birth of Jesud Christ surely using such a term offends yourself?

I meant you are confused about why people are religious AND why people are straight.

gizmo81

Nope, I fully under heterosexuality and Religion.

evolving_doors

suicide_circus wrote: »

"And he left them and went out of the city, into Bethany, and he lodged there?"

Who? Francis Brennan!

branie2

I saw a Jehovah's Witness stand in Ennis yesterday with religious pamphlets. You often see them in other towns.

Barry Badrinath

Jaysis you are always on an anger crusade of some sort.

Sort yerself out OP.

Mr. CooL ICE

gizmo81 wrote: »

Being gay is a gift, why would anyone avoid it?

What in the jaysus are you on about?

jacksie66

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gizmo81

Prickly Pete wrote: »

Some people would say that you should be strong enough to avoid being gay.

Think of how that would make you feel when you decide to judge others.

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

What in the jaysus are you on about?

I don't think it's particularly difficult to understand.

Galwayguy35

As long as the religious folk are doing nothing illegal they are entitled to be on the street so you're just going to have to suck it up OP and get on with it.