Dublin One Religious Colonisation

gizmo81

St Patrick's is one parade on one day.

Pride is one parade on one day.

Religious street preaching is becoming a weekly and even daily occurrence.

Our City has laws which they seem to be exempt from or ignore.

I don't see why they come here if they aren't going to integrate instead of trying to get us to convert.

Prickly Pete

gizmo81 wrote: »

St Patrick's is one parade on one day.

Pride is one parade on one day.

Religious street preaching is becoming a weekly and even daily occurrence.

Our City has laws which they seem to be exempt from or ignore.

I don't see why they come here if they aren't going to integrate instead of trying to get us to convert.

Roads and streets are not shut down for these various relgious preachers.

That is the difference between this and Gay Pride, St Patricks day etc.

This is a complete non issue.

gizmo81

So only road users should be considered not pedestrians?

Prickly Pete

gizmo81 wrote: »

So only road users should be considered not pedestrians?

I walk by these preachers every day and they cause no harm.

Just get on with your life and stop complaining over nothing.

uck51js9zml2yt

gizmo81 wrote: »

So only road users should be considered not pedestrians?

Looks like you are a lone voice call in the wilderness.

I suggest you build a bridge ....you do get where I'm going, don't you?:)

I'm so glad my father and grandfather fought in the 2 world wars so you could have the freedom to complain about other people's freedoms and try get them restricted.

gizmo81

gizmo81 wrote: »

I don't see why they come here if they aren't going to integrate

Eh?

Who? The evangelical irish lads I see on Henry Street?

What are you on about?

gizmo81

I've seen one Northern Irish lad on a plinth at Henry Street.


The Jehovahs are mainly South American and European.

So I'm gonna step out of the thread now because every word I say is getting attacked.

My point is Street Preaching should be restricted like any other 'Street Performer'.

The Irish for the most part rejected organised religion in the last 20 years and I find it sad to see these new religions take a hold here.

I don't want 'Jesus saves me' leaflets put through my door, I don't want to hear it walking down the street.

I hate organised religion, I agree that religious people have freedoms under the constitution but organisations/businesses should not.

And Religious Organisations like Iona should not be tax exempt.

KERSPLAT!

They do me no direct harm, I just stroll by the same as I do with the chuggers. They're much worse for being in your face IMO.

KERSPLAT!

gizmo81 wrote: »

I've seen one Northern Irish lad on a plinth at Henry Street.


The Jehovahs are mainly South American and European.

So I'm gonna step out of the thread now because every word I say is getting attacked.

My point is Street Preaching should be restricted like any other 'Street Performer'.

The Irish for the most part rejected organised religion in the last 20 years and I find it sad to see these new religions take a hold here.

I don't want 'Jesus saves me' leaflets put through my door, I don't want to hear it walking down the street.

I hate organised religion, I agree that religious people have freedoms under the constitution but organisations/businesses should not.

And Religious Organisations like Iona should not be tax exempt.

I don't want Dominos leaflets in my post box but that's the cost of having a post box.

nice_guy80

Samaris

Sure, they vaguely annoy me if they're going on in my ear en masse - same as buskers annoy me if it's a horde of saxophones (actually, saxes annoy me anyway - I am easily annoyed), but they have a right to be there and as long as they're not advocating loudly for the doom and destruction of anyone they don't like, they can wittle on as they like.

Don't see what this has to do with homosexuality, I get a whiff of a red herring here.

gizmo81

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

I don't want Dominos leaflets in my post box but that's the cost of having a post box.

Selling pizza and selling god are two very different things.

gizmo81

Samaris wrote: »

Sure, they vaguely annoy me if they're going on in my ear en masse - same as buskers annoy me if it's a horde of saxophones (actually, saxes annoy me anyway - I am easily annoyed), but they have a right to be there and as long as they're not advocating loudly for the doom and destruction of anyone they don't like, they can wittle on as they like.

Don't see what this has to do with homosexuality, I get a whiff of a red herring here.

Every year before during and after pride people complain about 'gays pushing it in our faces'. My point is, I don't know if you read the thread, that this happens once a year and the Gay Community are condemned for it.

Why is it acceptable for Street Preachers every day?

Rumpy Pumpy

Have you ever considered mindfulness, OP? It's a non-religious, but deeply spiritual practice that can be used for dealing with difficult emotions such as anger and intolerance.

KERSPLAT!

gizmo81 wrote: »

Selling pizza and selling god are two very different things.

Yeah, the meal deals of bread and wine haven't a patch on pizza, warm cookies and some Ben and Jerry's

PistolsAtDawn

gizmo81 wrote: »

People should be strong enough.

As a gay man I don't understand weakness.

What are you on about, how does being a gay man remove weakness?

gizmo81

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

Have you ever considered mindfulness, OP? It's a non-religious, but deeply spiritual practice that can be used for dealing with difficult emotions such as anger and intolerance.

It's funny that my mental health has been called into question numerous times on this thread but the people who live their lives by a ghost in the sky are perfectly sane.

Sofiztikated

You do know that if you wanted, you set up a little stand near them with a banner saying "Being gay is pure sound" and try to talk people into being gay/coming out.

Unless they are actively being hateful, they're not doing any harm. Do I think they're deluded? Absolutely, but it's not for me to say that they can't try to garner more supporters.

Wesser

It's a free country, people are free to express their opinions. They are free to spread awareness if what they believe in just like gay people are free to spread awareness of what they believe in.
I think you are too uptight and you need to ' live and let live'.

Sofiztikated

gizmo81 wrote: »

It's funny that my mental health has been called into question numerous times on this thread but the people who live their lives by a ghost in the sky are perfectly sane.

Noone said a word about your mental health.

Benjamin Buttons

gizmo81 wrote: »

Selling pizza and selling god are two very different things.

Not necessarily, I recently heard a young priest give a sermon on how life can indeed resemble a pizza.

Your home and loving family is the flat round base of dough.
The flavoursome toppings are all the good things in life which our Lord Jesus Christ provides.
The anchovies represent the blessed sacraments, the cheese is the word of God and the small bits of rancid sausage meat (I hate those bits) are evil incarnate.

Why not choose your very own toppings and what they represent to you.
Remember, life really is like a pizza, you can't remember ordering it, suddenly it's there, and then it's gone...or something.

gizmo81

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Jaysis you are always on an anger crusade of some sort.

Sort yerself out OP.

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Is this really the worst thing you can complain/ crusade/ claim victimhood about?

Demi Limited Pointlessly wrote: »

Looks like you are a lone voice call in the wilderness.

I suggest you build a bridge ....you do get where I'm going, don't you?:)

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

Have you ever considered mindfulness, OP? It's a non-religious, but deeply spiritual practice that can be used for dealing with difficult emotions such as anger and intolerance.

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Noone said a word about your mental health.

:rolleyes:

myshirt

Benjamin Buttons wrote: »

Not necessarily, I recently heard a young priest give a sermon on how life can indeed resemble a pizza.

Your home and loving family is the flat round base of dough.
The flavoursome toppings are all the good things in life which our Lord Jesus Christ provides.
The anchovies represent the blessed sacraments, the cheese is the word of God and the small bits of rancid sausage meat (I hate those bits) are evil incarnate.

Why not choose your very own toppings and what they represent to you.
Remember, life really is like a pizza, you can't remember ordering it, suddenly it's there, and then it's gone...or something.

Yeah, and instead of 'sauce covered in meat', you get 'a bomb under your seat'.

Spider Web

gizmo81 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

The second and third one make no reference to your mental health, and it's very debatable that the first one does.

Pick your battles - I don't like organised religion either so I just ignore them. Over focusing on them/looking to be angered is not good for you.

pjohnson

Well "stepping out of the thread" proved as meaningless as the rest of the OP's posts.

Benjamin Buttons

Samaris wrote: »

Sure, they vaguely annoy me...... .

...............Don't see what this has to do with homosexuality, I get a whiff of a red herring here.

Nope, that's anchovies.
Who ever heard of 'Red Herrings' on a pizza, that's like trying to put Mohammed in the good book (The Holy Bible).
Get a grip!

gizmo81

pjohnson wrote: »

Well "stepping out of the thread" proved as meaningless as the rest of the OP's posts.

I'm not sorry that my politeness in responding to people is irksome to you.

The_Valeyard

gizmo81 wrote: »

I'm not sorry that my politeness in responding to people is irksome to you.

You are not acting in a polite manner but seem to be deliberately reading what you want into other people's posts to accuse them of acting against you in some manner which they are not.

osarusan

gizmo81 wrote: »

Every year before during and after pride people complain about 'gays pushing it in our faces'. My point is, I don't know if you read the thread, that this happens once a year and the Gay Community are condemned for it.

And those people complaining and condemning are talking absolute bollox, as you are now.

gizmo81

I cannot control how you interpret my words no more than you can control how I interpret your words.

pjohnson

gizmo81 wrote: »

I cannot control how you interpret my words no more than you can control how I interpret your words.

WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY MOTHER????

The_Valeyard

pjohnson wrote: »

WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY MOTHER????

gizmo81

I stand by points I made on the thread:

gizmo81 wrote: »

I find it interesting that it's concentrated in this area.

Would it be tolerated on Grafton Street?
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gizmo81 wrote: »

Also, as a gay man I have to listen to a berating once a year for the pride celebration and commemoration but the Holy Mary's can take over town any day they want.

gizmo81 wrote: »

They will tap you for money for anti-abortion/anti-gay rights campaigns.

gizmo81 wrote: »

I think in 2017 we should be moving away from religion.

Religion is a tool of oppression, historically use to control the poor and the ignorant.

gizmo81 wrote: »

Regular Irish people fought to move away from the Church in the 80/90's with the scandals that were revealed.

gizmo81 wrote: »

People should be strong enough.

As a gay man I don't understand weakness.

gizmo81 wrote: »

Religion is a choice.

Sexuality is not.

gizmo81 wrote: »

Being gay is a gift

gizmo81 wrote: »

Today there were 4 or 5 distinct groups on Henry Street from Debenhams up to GPO.

Seemed excessive. Should they not be restricted like buskers?

gizmo81 wrote: »

I believe in the right to protest in a democracy.

gizmo81 wrote: »

Funny how people forget, how people can say religion causes no harm


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdalene_asylum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_scandal_in_Ireland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abuse

gizmo81 wrote: »

They are basically street 'entertainers' and should be restricted like buskers.

gizmo81 wrote: »

I welcomed the restrictions on street performers in the last couple of years.

I don't see why these are exempt is all, I'd like to see them restricted.

They are just getting a footing now before the 8th Amendment Referendum

gizmo81 wrote: »

And I don't think this (Mega Churches) is something to be welcomed.

Many will disagree.

I felt Ireland grew up and moved away from organised religion.

I feel this is a step backwards, many will disagree.

gizmo81 wrote: »

St Patrick's is one parade on one day.

Pride is one parade on one day.

Religious street preaching is becoming a weekly and even daily occurrence.

Our City has laws which they seem to be exempt from or ignore.

gizmo81 wrote: »

I've seen one Northern Irish lad on a plinth at Henry Street.


The Jehovahs are mainly South American and European.

My point is Street Preaching should be restricted like any other 'Street Performer'.

The Irish for the most part rejected organised religion in the last 20 years and I find it sad to see these new religions take a hold here.

I don't want to hear 'Jesus saves me' walking down the street.

I hate organised religion, I agree that religious people have freedoms under the constitution but organisations/businesses should not.

And Religious Organisations like Iona should not be tax exempt.

gizmo81 wrote: »

Selling pizza and selling god are two very different things.

gizmo81 wrote: »

Every year before during and after pride people complain about 'gays pushing it in our faces'. My point is, I don't know if you read the thread, that this happens once a year and the Gay Community are condemned for it.

Why is it acceptable for Street Preachers every day?

gizmo81 wrote: »

It's funny that my mental health has been called into question numerous times on this thread but the people who live their lives by a ghost in the sky are perfectly sane.

gizmo81 wrote: »

I'm not sorry that my politeness in responding to people is irksome to you.

gizmo81 wrote: »

I cannot control how you interpret my words no more than you can control how I interpret your words.

pjohnson

The_Valeyard wrote: »

pjohnson

gizmo81 wrote: »

I stand by points I made on the thread:

YOU SHALL NOT PASS

Grayson

To be fair, if there's one thing that would turn people off religion it's the overtly religious.

Only an idiot would walk along O'Connell st and decide to convert.

gizmo81

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair, if there's one thing that would turn people off religion it's the overtly religious.

Only an idiot would walk along O'Connell st and decide to convert.

I tried to make a point about the choice of this location.

Vulnerable people make bad choices, whether from financial issues or lack of education.

uck51js9zml2yt

gizmo81 wrote: »

Every year before during and after pride people complain about 'gays pushing it in our faces'. My point is, I don't know if you read the thread, that this happens once a year and the Gay Community are condemned for it.

Why is it acceptable for Street Preachers every day?

Look any day in the press or any hour ( slight exaggeration) on boards and you'll seek anyone who disagrees with homosexuality being abused....what's your point?
You started off with saying the reason 1916/21 occured was to free us from organised religion

endacl

Prickly Pete wrote: »

Not really, most religious people tend to be fairly harmless.

Unless they've access to a van and a crowded street...

gizmo81

Demi Limited Pointlessly wrote: »

Look any day in the press or any hour ( slight exaggeration) on boards and you'll seek anyone who disagrees with homosexuality being abused....what's your point?
You started off with saying the reason 1916/21 occured was to free us from organised religion

I'm only answering to be polite I don't want this to become a thread about acceptance of LGBTQ+

Sexuality isn't a choice no more than skin colour. It is frowned upon to support the KKK, why is religion that opposes LGBTQ+ sexuality allowed?

Religion isn't freedom, and while the rebels were God fearing, I was using the example as symbolic of the Irish fight for freedom, freedom from outside interference.

Street Preaching is imported.

pjohnson

gizmo81 wrote: »

I'm only answering to be polite I don't want this to become a thread about acceptance of LGBTQ+

Sexuality isn't a choice no more than skin colour. It is frowned upon to support the KKK, why is religion that opposes LGBTQ+ sexuality allowed?

Religion isn't freedom, and while the rebels were God fearing, I was using the example as symbolic of the Irish fight for freedom, freedom from outside interference.

Street Preaching is imported.

If you dont want this thread to be about Alphabet acceptance why have you repeatedly called people homophobes and boasted your own sexuality.

The_Valeyard

I really think the OP has derailed his own thread and we are now far removed from the original topic.

gizmo81

pjohnson wrote: »

If you dont want this thread to be about Alphabet acceptance
why have you repeatedly called people homophobes and boasted your own sexuality.

'Alphabet acceptance' is very dismissive

'Repeatedly called people homophobes', what people?

'Boasted your own sexuality', I am very proud of my community.

KERSPLAT!

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I really think the OP has derailed his own thread and we are now far removed from the original topic.

Who would have thought that'd happen.

gizmo81

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I really think the OP has derailed his own thread and we are now far removed from the original topic.

No I have responded to people. Am I not allowed to do that?

The_Valeyard

gizmo81 wrote: »

No I have responded to people. Am I not allowed to do that?

I thought you were politely leaving?

gizmo81

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I thought you were politely leaving?

Am I not allowed to respond to posts directed at me?

pjohnson

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I thought you were politely leaving?

He has to keep up his.....ramblings.

The_Valeyard

gizmo81 wrote: »

Am I not allowed to respond to posts directed at me?

So your staying then.


No one is stopping you from posting. Off you go so, run free and post away.

gizmo81

The_Valeyard wrote: »

So your staying then.


No one is stopping you from posting. Off you go so, run free and post away.

So helpful and obliging. Thanks Gurl. . Snaps ** :P