The official AH McGregor vs Mayweather thread

ebbsy

Yeah McGregor crowd still going on about the stoppage but he wasn't throwing any thing back and wasn't defending himself.

Maybe they should have read the rules before going through with it.

osarusan

paleoperson wrote: »

He was like that at some points, and yes he said he wanted to hit the floor. However in other interviews he gave he started talking about how he can get a "dip" in the 9th or 10th round and then he would miraculously be better in the 11th or 12th. He said he was just a bit wobbly. He's not saying he was robbed, but he is contesting he had a shot at coming back.

Ok, hadn't seen him saying it was just a temporary dip, or something he thought he'd soon recover from.

Alf Veedersane

paleoperson wrote: »

I saw him give multiple interviews with that as a point. He's going to stick with that long term, that he wished the referee could have left it go for longer. Also, I do not see the point in saying "well I only got TKOed, not KOed proper", I just don't see that as a point for him.

Seems like he has no intentions to stop acting the fool:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4827458/Imagine-d-WON-Conor-McGregor-gets-hero-s-welcome.html?login

He could at least have a little humility and not acting like a maniac after he lost.

If he didn't talk so much **** and act like this it would be great, I liked his character for a while. But he just went so overboard and imo is now more an embarrassment to Ireland than anything to be proud of. If you look on youtube of how disgracefully he acts. Maybe it's worthwhile that he exists rather than if he never did, but just about.

Ériu herself is crying into a pillow. She'll be onto Joe Duffy on Monday telling him it's a disgrace.

wotzgoingon

paleoperson wrote: »

I saw him give multiple interviews with that as a point. He's going to stick with that long term, that he wished the referee could have left it go for longer. Also, I do not see the point in saying "well I only got TKOed, not KOed proper", I just don't see that as a point for him.

I do not know why he is bringing that into it. It is a boxing match and he knows the rules. The referee will stop the fight if the fighter is not fighting and and is stunned which he was.

He was also doing a lot of illegal hits in the fight again this is a boxing match not a MMA fight.

In a interview I watched he also said I had got behind Mayweather a few times and if it was MMA he would have used that to his advantage, I do not know why he says that when again this is a boxing match not MMA and he know that.

When you are fighting in a BOXING match it has different rules. I said it from the moment this fight was announced that he would not beat Mayweather in a boxing match and that if it was Mayweather who entered the cage McGregor would win, but I never predicted that Mayweather would get a stoppage I assumed it would go the full rounds.

McGregor should be embarrassed getting stopped by a fighter not known for TKO's. Where is his smack talk I will destroy his within 4 rounds etc...

sabat

osarusan wrote: »

Rather than him coming across as saying that he was still well in the fight or anything like that, the impression I got as that he'd prefer that Mayweather be forced to knock him out/down, and lose like that, rather than while he was still standing. Pretty common thing for boxers to say.

When the ref stopped it Mayweather was dishing out headshots at will using about 60% of his potential power; if that had been a heavyweight in a bad mood McGregor would be in intensive care right now.

wotzgoingon

sabat wrote: »

When the ref stopped it Mayweather was dishing out headshots at will using about 60% of his potential power; if that had been a heavyweight in a bad mood McGregor would be in intensive care right now.

That is so true especially when Mayweather is not known for hard punching.

BillyBobBS

Mayweather DQ

paleoperson wrote: »

I saw him give multiple interviews with that as a point. He's going to stick with that long term, that he wished the referee could have left it go for longer. Also, I do not see the point in saying "well I only got TKOed, not KOed proper", I just don't see that as a point for him.

Seems like he has no intentions to stop acting the fool:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4827458/Imagine-d-WON-Conor-McGregor-gets-hero-s-welcome.html?login

He could at least have a little humility and not acting like a maniac after he lost.

If he didn't talk so much **** and act like this it would be great, I liked his character for a while. But he just went so overboard and imo is now more an embarrassment to Ireland than anything to be proud of. If you look on youtube of how disgracefully he acts. Maybe it's worthwhile that he exists rather than if he never did, but just about.

Great to see him enjoying his life to the full. He'll be back of that iv'e no doubt. One hell of a warrior.

Alf Veedersane

sabat wrote: »

When the ref stopped it Mayweather was dishing out headshots at will using about 60% of his potential power; if that had been a heavyweight in a bad mood McGregor would be in intensive care right now.

Why did Mayweather only bother to use 60% of his potential power going for a knockout?

McGregor wouldn't have been in with a heavyweight but if he's also been in the ring with someone who had a fun he might even be dead!!!eleventyone!!!1!1

Surreptitious

I've bed sheets the cut of that suit he's wearing.

paleoperson

Draw

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I do not know why he is bringing that into it. It is a boxing match and he knows the rules. The referee will stop the fight if the fighter is not fighting and and is stunned which he was.

He was also doing a lot of illegal hits in the fight again this is a boxing match not a MMA fight.

In a interview I watched he also said I had got behind Mayweather a few times and if it was MMA he would have used that to his advantage, I do not know why he says that when again this is a boxing match not MMA and he know that.

When you are fighting in a BOXING match it has different rules. I said it from the moment this fight was announced that he would not beat Mayweather in a boxing match and that if it was Mayweather who entered the cage McGregor would win, but I never predicted that Mayweather would get a stoppage I assumed it would go the full rounds.

McGregor should be embarrassed getting stopped by a fighter not known for TKO's. Where is his smack talk I will destroy his within 4 rounds etc...

He later revised that claim down to 2 rounds. :rolleyes:

Agree with your post. I am suspicious about these comments about "well McGregor gave it his all, won the first three rounds and gave a great account of himself". They're not like tennis sets - they're more like if you run out of in front of another the pack for the first few laps in a really long race... what's the point if they all come gliding past you later?

I'm sure if Mayweather really wanted to, he could have knocked him out in 3-4 rounds. Conceivably, McGregor could have had a tiny, tiny chance if he tried that, because McGregor would be fresh. So being the consummate professional, Mayweather waited and played his game to the maximum extent. Like Eamon Dunphy said it's not about entertainment, if you want entertainment go to the pictures. Mayweather didn't make 49-0 by taking risks no matter small they may seem.

The commentators were even saying in round 9 and 10 that Mayweather was surprising them how aggressive he was becoming. That he wasn't known for this aggressive style at all and they weren't used to seeing him box that way - so even round 9 and 10 was a little early for Mayweather but I guess he then was 100% and wanted to give his fans something.

paleoperson

Draw

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Great to see him enjoying his life to the full. He'll be back of that iv'e no doubt. One hell of a warrior.

He should have had a bit more respect for his fans and the fact that he lost despite all his bullcrap.

sabat

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Why did Mayweather only bother to use 60% of his potential power going for a knockout?

McGregor wouldn't have been in with a heavyweight but if he's also been in the ring with someone who had a fun he might even be dead!!!eleventyone!!!1!1

My point is that although McGregor probably could have stumbled his way to the end of the round, the potential for a really nasty injury was obvious to an experienced boxing ref.

Alf Veedersane

sabat wrote: »

My point is that although McGregor probably could have stumbled his way to the end of the round, the potential for a really nasty injury was obvious to an experienced boxing ref.

And especially if Floyd was 50 pounds heavier.

Guy:Incognito

It's a wonder he only managed to win 1 round if he was outboxing Mayweather for the early rounds (plural)

Subcomandante Marcos

Mayweather DQ

Pussyhands wrote: »

exactly!

Mayweather waited to attack when he knew McGregor had no chance of hurting him with a punch. Mayweather waited a number of rounds to see what McGregor had in his locker. When Floyd knew Conor had no power to hurt him he went to town on him.

Go watch the Manny fight, Floyd kept it tight all fight because he knew Manny still had power to knock him out if he connected right and gave him the opportunity.

Mayweather boxed Conor around the place. This is a 40 year old Mayweather who wasn't known for KO's for a long time. This was not peak Mayweather and he still got trampled on.

Perfect summation.

paleoperson

Draw

Blueberry Pods wrote: »

As I understand it Mayweather had a large bet on himself to win in under 9.5 rounds, so doubt very much he could have finished it.

That's interesting. He didn't end up having that bet placed though.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/mayweather-mcgregor/floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-bet-odds-attempted-to-place-400000-bet-a7915051.html

Discodog

Blueberry Pods wrote: »

As I understand it Mayweather had a large bet on himself to win in under 9.5 rounds, so doubt very much he could have finished it.

Floyd was being outboxed by Conor in the early rounds before he fatigued, he actually was countering Floyd very well, I don't remember any other boxer doing that to Floyd. On numerous occasions Floyd turned his back to Conor, that's not a sign that he could have ended it whenever he wanted to.

People need to realise this, Conor has a world class ability to slip and counter punch, his skills are sublime. The problem was that there is that's only one element of boxing, he was very rough around the edges in other respects, nonetheless he was the superior boxer before he fatigued.

Of course Mayweather became aggressive in the later rounds, he was basically a walking punching bag by that time due to fatigue.

You are wrong about the bet. It wasn't placed. If you really believe that Mcgregor was ever out boxing Mayweather then I want some of whatever you are taking.

Subcomandante Marcos

Mayweather DQ

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

It's a wonder he only managed to win 1 round if he was outboxing Mayweather for the early rounds (plural)

I think the judges were harsh, I'd give him the first two rounds, but not because he actually did anything exceptional, he was just busy and Floyd was cruising not throwing punches.
The third round I'd give to Floyd as he actually started to throw and move forward.

The start of the 4th onwards it was totally one sided.

wotzgoingon

That comment about Floyd is dead on. This was not Floyd in his prime he is old for a contact sport and stopped training for 2 years as he was retired and he was also a lot smaller than Mcgregor and still Floyd got a TKO.

Call the outcome what ever way you want but Mcgregor should be ashamed with having getting stopped.

osarusan

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Call the outcome what ever way you want but Mcgregor should be ashamed with having getting stopped.

No he shouldn't. He was up against one of the very boxers in the whole history of the sport - who has definitely lost a bit of his speed, but doesn't seem to have lost any of his composure or analytical skills. Ridiculous to suggest that he should be ashamed to be stopped by such a boxer.

wotzgoingon

osarusan wrote: »

No he shouldn't. He was up against one of the very boxers in the whole history of the sport - who has definitely lost a bit of his speed, but doesn't seem to have lost any of his composure or analytical skills. Ridiculous to suggest that he should be ashamed to be stopped by such a boxer.

He should well past his prime not known for Knock outs in later years and he was a much larger guy. He should 100% be ashamed.

Discodog

wotzgoingon wrote: »

That comment about Floyd is dead on. This was not Floyd in his prime he is old for a contact sport and stopped training for 2 years as he was retired and he was also a lot smaller than Mcgregor and still Floyd got a TKO.

Call the outcome what ever way you want but Mcgregor should be ashamed with having getting stopped.

McGregor got the perfect stoppage. He said after the fight that he wasn't hurt just exhausted.

wotzgoingon

Discodog wrote: »

McGregor got the perfect stoppage. He said after the fight that he wasn't hurt just exhausted.

Bull**** did you even watch the fight, if the fight went on any longer he could have got a serious brain injury.

Titzon Toast

McGregor DQ

wotzgoingon wrote: »

He should well past his prime not known for Knock outs in later years and he was a much larger guy. He should 100% be ashamed.

Are you trolling? Serious question.

wotzgoingon

Titzon Toast wrote: »

Are you trolling? Serious question.

The guy was beaten end of story.... by a TKO as he was fúcked. Left in the ring any longer and he could have got a serious brain injury. People seem to forget this was a boxing match with different rules than MMA and Conor knows the rules. If you are under serious threat in a boxing match and not fighting back the ref with stop the contest.

Conor as he was beaten afterwards he was saying how he could have kept going no he could not. Watch the fight in the conor after the 9th round he was fúcked and you could see it in his eyes that he did not want to be there.

DrPhilG

Titzon Toast wrote: »

Are you trolling? Serious question.

I think we all know the answer...

paleoperson

Draw

wotzgoingon wrote: »

The guy was beaten end of story.... by a TKO as he was fúcked. Left in the ring any longer and he could have got a serious brain injury. People seem to forget this was a boxing match with different rules than MMA and Conor knows the rules. If you are under serious threat in a boxing match and not fighting back the ref with stop the contest.

Conor as he was beaten afterwards he was saying how he could have kept going no he could not. Watch the fight in the conor after the 9th round he was fúcked and you could see it in his eyes that he did not want to be there.

Everything you're saying here is right. However when you said "mcgregor was the bigger fighter so he should ashamed", that's an incredibly silly remark. I mean if being bigger mattered so much, Mayweather would have been beaten by one of the 49 other guys he went against.

Because he was the bigger guy, lol.

wotzgoingon

paleoperson wrote: »

Everything you're saying here is right. However when you said "mcgregor was the bigger fighter so he should ashamed", that's an incredibly silly remark. I mean if being bigger mattered so much, Mayweather would have been beaten by one of the 49 other guys he went against.

Because he was the bigger guy, lol.

I suppose your right. I was just fed up with his comments leading up to the fight.

I am boxing. You are all going to eat your words. I will knock him out within 4 rounds.

Pintman Paddy Losty

Mayweather K.O.

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Bull**** did you even watch the fight, if the fight went on any longer he could have got a serious brain injury.

It would be fairly difficult to tell even if that was to occur.

paleoperson

Draw

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I suppose your right. I was just fed up with his comments leading up to the fight.

I am boxing. You are all going to eat your words. I will knock him out within 4 rounds.

Oh I totally agree, he's a disgrace. He even put his hands on Mayweather's head at one point as Mayweather was sitting down, everyone started freaking out except Mayweather. Mayweather must have the patience of a saint to tolerate that, honestly I don't know if he should have allowed it. Directly embarrassing Irish people by saying he had the whole of Ireland behind him and repeatedly saying Irish people take over. I was all for McGregor the outlandish character until I realized he was just stupid and really offensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsQ0KC7r814

Discodog

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Bull**** did you even watch the fight, if the fight went on any longer he could have got a serious brain injury.

Watched it live. McGregor criticised the stoppage, not me. But it was a cautious stoppage especially as there were no knock downs.

chupacabra

Glad he's coming back to MMA. Last night proved what a boring shambles of a "sport" boxing is lol

Outlaw Pete

paleoperson wrote: »

Oh I totally agree, he's a disgrace. He even put his hands on Mayweather's head at one point as Mayweather was sitting down, everyone started freaking out except Mayweather. Mayweather must have the patience of a saint to tolerate that, honestly I don't know if he should have allowed it. Directly embarrassing Irish people by saying he had the whole of Ireland behind him and repeatedly saying Irish people take over. I was all for McGregor the outlandish character until I realized he was just stupid and really offensive.

Yeah, what a bastard.

Honestly, some of the things people are moaning about. It's a fight. He was trying to sell it.

Who gives a crap if he put his hand on Floyd's head ffs!!!

Sure Mayweather put his hands around Ortiz's throat!

Rumpy Pumpy

Mayweather DQ

chupacabra wrote: »

Glad he's coming back to MMA. Last night proved what a boring shambles of a "sport" boxing is lol

McGregor is in better company back in UFC. He looked seriously out of breath last night based on the news report. Wheezing and panting away like a chain smoker. I'm not in great shape, but I'm confident I'd beat McGregor in a 10k or half marathon.

shookie

This is very simple. A ****e novice boxer got the ****e beating out of him! No Shame, he wasn't expected to win.

chupacabra

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

McGregor is in better company back in UFC. He looked seriously out of breath last night based on the news report. Wheezing and panting away like a chain smoker. I'm not in great shape, but I'm confident I'd beat McGregor in a 10k or half marathon.

Im sure you could :rolleyes:

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Wouldn't know a lot about either mma or boxing and only watched it after all the hype surrounding it. I think mayweather was very composed and calm and didn't seem too rattled by the support Conor had or Conor's mouth.

Conor's a show man, he made them both a serious amount of cash, he built up a serious hype to this fight, he got people (like me) who'd have no interest in those fights really really hyped up for it, he sold it. Yeah he's outlandish, tacky, a bit of a mouth but he also does a lot for his local area and in particular kids charities, and word has it "normal" Conor Mc Gregor is a pretty nice person.

For someone with no boxing experience to go against the best boxer in the world (I assume?) and hold his own for ten rounds, fair play. There's no shame in losing, there had to be someone who didn't win. He's got so many kids interested in sports again and that can only be a good thing?

I don't think he has anything to feel embarrassed or shamed about? He did well, considering he's not a boxer. Would floyd have lasted ten rounds in a sport he didn't excel in? Doubt it.

smurgen

Embarrasing fight for McGregor.he didn't even look like a boxer ffs.no composure.hands down,wild punches.the two areas he was touted as having an edge,age/cardio and punch power amounted to nothing.he threw weak,ineffective.punches and was exhausted by a man 10 years older,there's no excuse for that. It looked like an exhibition match for floyd and he looked like he was after only a 5 km jog in the post fight interview,didn't take a bit out of him!i'm convinced floyd could have ended it much much earlier if he wanted.

paleoperson

Draw

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Yeah, what a bastard.

Honestly, some of the things people are moaning about. It's a fight. He was trying to sell it.

Who gives a crap if he put his hand on Floyd's head ffs!!!

Sure Mayweather put his hands around Ortiz's throat!

They were both getting in each other's face a lot there. Fair enough that Mayweather was no saint but this was a bit different, apples and oranges.

It could be like a show for publicity that Mayweather is accomplice to, but it strikes me as a huge disrespect. Either McGregor is being fake or he's being incredibly disrespectful, either way it's bad. You don't pat someone you don't like on the head. Imagine if you did that to someone you know you had bad relations with when they were sitting down, can you imagine that?

2Mad2BeMad

paleoperson wrote: »

They were both getting in each other's face a lot there. Fair enough that Mayweather was no saint but this was a bit different, apples and oranges.

It could be like a show for publicity that Mayweather is accomplice to, but it strikes me as a huge disrespect. Either McGregor is being fake or he's being incredibly disrespectful, either way it's bad. You don't pat someone you don't like on the head. Imagine if you did that to someone you know you had bad relations with when they were sitting down, can you imagine that?

They may not be the best of friends,
But they don't hate each other.
They made each other alot of money

they are entertainers, anything to hype the fight up to make more money they will do.
Hell for all we know floyd told him to pat his head as it would get people talking.

They are their to sell a fight, make money and go home.

Sure if you need any convincing, check the interviews straight after the fight, they have respect for each other and praised each other.
Laughing all the way to the bank/tax office :P

khaldrogo

smurgen wrote:

Embarrasing fight for McGregor.he didn't even look like a boxer ffs.no composure.hands down,wild punches..

You obviously missed the point.....

He purposefully went into the fight with the AIM of being unorthodox.

ben.schlomo

paleoperson wrote: »

They were both getting in each other's face a lot there. Fair enough that Mayweather was no saint but this was a bit different, apples and oranges.

It could be like a show for publicity that Mayweather is accomplice to, but it strikes me as a huge disrespect. Either McGregor is being fake or he's being incredibly disrespectful, either way it's bad. You don't pat someone you don't like on the head. Imagine if you did that to someone you know you had bad relations with when they were sitting down, can you imagine that?

Im assuming never seen McGregor at a presser before or ever watched entertainers try to sell a fight. Youre displaying a complete lack of knowledge on the matter.

Oranage2

McGregor was well.out of his depth but talked smack to promote and get his 75 million.

Mayweather made an easy 300 million, it only went ten rounds because of the PPV money.

Every other opinion is wrong.

The only thing it highlighted is the current state of boxing and how embarrassing they are to promote a ufc guy against a retired 40 year old. Same thing last year with Klitschko, another guy in his 40s. Boxing is desperately clinging onto their huge PPV money something UFC aren't currently willing to offer their fighters but as a sport it is dying in both entertainment and popularity.

Noveight

Mayweather K.O.

Oranage2 wrote: »

Mayweather made an easy 300 million, it only went ten rounds because of the PPV money.

Many lads rolling around the "it took a boxing vet like Mayweather 10 rounds to finish him, pretty good for a boxing debut!" tripe. In reality it only lasted as long for the sake of a spectacle, as you said.

paleoperson

Draw

2Mad2BeMad wrote: »

They may not be the best of friends,
But they don't hate each other.
They made each other alot of money

they are entertainers, anything to hype the fight up to make more money they will do.
Hell for all we know floyd told him to pat his head as it would get people talking.

They are their to sell a fight, make money and go home.

Sure if you need any convincing, check the interviews straight after the fight, they have respect for each other and praised each other.
Laughing all the way to the bank/tax office :P

I understand that. But I'm saying it's really disrespectful and annoying to put hands on someone's head like that. Nowhere did I suggest they're not both happy about playing up the fight. You can only put on so much of an act.

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Im assuming never seen McGregor at a presser before or ever watched entertainers try to sell a fight. Youre displaying a complete lack of knowledge on the matter.

I've seen it a lot, and I've looked at McGregor's worst bits on youtube and no, nothing seemed as bad as this to me. Post some clips if you can find worse.

Oranage2 wrote: »

McGregor was well.out of his depth but talked smack to promote and get his 75 million.

Mayweather made an easy 300 million, it only went ten rounds because of the PPV money.

Noone on this planet is disputing that McGregor was talking smack to promote the fight. Are you suggesting that Mayweather deliberately extended it to 10 rounds? But there were other conspiracy people saying it would be done in a few rounds just for the PPV money. Mayweather himself tried to bet on himself getting a knockout in 9.5 rounds.

Oranage2 wrote: »

Every other opinion is wrong.

But the only opinion you stated there is either trivial or false. At least have it consistent.

Oranage2 wrote: »

The only thing it highlighted is the current state of boxing and how embarrassing they are to promote a ufc guy against a retired 40 year old. Same thing last year with Klitschko, another guy in his 40s. Boxing is desperately clinging onto their huge PPV money something UFC aren't currently willing to offer their fighters but as a sport it is dying in both entertainment and popularity.

I don't see your problem with boxers in their 40s. Boxers age fairly well compared to other sports and often beat people much younger, people like watching them so I don't see your difficulty.

Tuco88

McGregor is a marketing god. Right off the bat pushing his whiskey and clothing after the loss interview.

Anyone who knows boxing expected this. The hope was a "fighters chance" youth and his so called power and fighting style could pull it off.

Mayweathers style/tactics was always going to give him 1st/2nd round edge he was then fecked.

What shocked me most was his lack of stamina for a boxing match with a 40 year old.

I had my doubts in this punch power he could never finish off Nate Diaz imo Nate had him beat only for time.

What impressed me the most, McGregor has a chin/Jaw of fecking steel. And all credit to the man went 10 rounds and didn't make a fool of himself for a novice.

whisky_galore

Money making circus act.

tastyt

Cant believe theres debate going on after this fight.

Conor showed a lot of heart and fair play to him for that but he was absolutely schooled in there by a guy in 3rd gear, really grasping at straws to see anything else.

Andy lee said on newstalk he couldn't believe how amateur conors corner was, said they didnt even have his gloves laced up properly. Thats embarrassing

Boom_Bap

I'm going to close this thread now as it's done and dusted.

The event is over, we have a winner, the cheques have been signed.
That's all we need for discussion on this in AH.

Congrats to Mayweather and McGregor for a great fight.

Please feel free to talk boxing and MMA in their respective forums.

FYI - The highest result in the poll was for a Mayweather KO