Flat earth believers

Ms Doubtfire1

To my HUGE surprise one of my friends ( know him for a few years) believes that the earth is flat, has a dome, and as such, we were never on the moon.
He is adamant he's right...I'm just about done laughing here but..any opinions ? I mean - how do you convince someone that the earth is round...you can even see it on Long distance flights...>sigh<.

The_Valeyard

I have evidence

Korvanica

Suggest going on a trip to see the edge ?

Kimbot

Ms Doubtfire1 wrote: »

To my HUGE surprise one of my friends ( know him for a few years) believes that the earth is flat, has a dome, and as such, we were never on the moon.
He is adamant he's right...I'm just about done laughing here but..any opinions ? I mean - how do you convince someone that the earth is round...you can even see it on Long distance flights...>sigh<.

Just tell him to walk to the edge and prove its flat then :P

Sofiztikated

You won't.

Just ask him opinion on vaccines and chem trails, and let him shitetalk himself to death.

Are Am Eye

it's turtles all the way down

Whispered

Mint Sauce

He's right about the moon thing at least.

Malari

Ms Doubtfire1

Ms Doubtfire1 wrote: »

To my HUGE surprise one of my friends ( know him for a few years) believes that the earth is flat, has a dome, and as such, we were never on the moon.
He is adamant he's right...I'm just about done laughing here but..any opinions ? I mean - how do you convince someone that the earth is round...you can even see it on Long distance flights...>sigh<.

He doesn't really believe it. It's something he says because he believes it makes him look different, interesting and special.

He'll defend it for hours to anyone and talk about it for weeks because he likes being the centre of attention, not because he really thinks anyone can fall off the edge of the world.

I've met a few of that kind, and they fool nobody. They all want people to believe they're special and insightful, but they're just attention seeking idiots.

Ms Doubtfire1

Candie wrote: »

Ms Doubtfire1 wrote: »

To my HUGE surprise one of my friends ( know him for a few years) believes that the earth is flat, has a dome, and as such, we were never on the moon.
He is adamant he's right...I'm just about done laughing here but..any opinions ? I mean - how do you convince someone that the earth is round...you can even see it on Long distance flights...>sigh<.

He doesn't really believe it. It's something he says because he believes it makes him look different, interesting and special.

He'll defend it for hours to anyone and talk about it for weeks because he likes being the centre of attention, not because he really thinks anyone can fall off the edge of the world.

I've met a few of that kind, and they fool nobody. They all want people to believe they're special and insightful, but they're just attention seeking idiots.

Lol. I just followed the first posters advice and told him to get into a car and start drivving.And to ring me before he fell off. >sigh<:D

branie2

I have never met them, thankfully.

iDave

Is it any worse than believing in 76 genders

o1s1n

Mint Sauce wrote: »

He's right about the moon thing at least.

Watch out for Buzz Aldrin, he may deck you

branie2

Christopher Columbus proved the earth was round

circadian

Ms Doubtfire1 wrote: »

To my HUGE surprise one of my friends ( know him for a few years) believes that the earth is flat, has a dome, and as such, we were never on the moon.
He is adamant he's right...I'm just about done laughing here but..any opinions ? I mean - how do you convince someone that the earth is round...you can even see it on Long distance flights...>sigh<.

He's having you on, and succeeding.

me_irl

I mean, this is obviously how the dinosaurs became extinct.

Cheerful Spring

Ms Doubtfire1 wrote: »

To my HUGE surprise one of my friends ( know him for a few years) believes that the earth is flat, has a dome, and as such, we were never on the moon.
He is adamant he's right...I'm just about done laughing here but..any opinions ? I mean - how do you convince someone that the earth is round...you can even see it on Long distance flights...>sigh<.

There two different beliefs. Never having gone to the moon,is different to believing the earth is flat.

There is evidence Nasa has faked moon/Apollo photographs. Why they did this not sure? The evidence we never went to the moon is not strong though. The Soviets/ Russians would have said something by now. We as species did not just go one time to the moon, we went there numerous times, and many Nasa employees and astronauts were involved in the moon project for decades. This would be hard to fake.

Flat earth. Moon looks like a circle, does it not when you look it at night. If it was flat surely the shape would resemble this shape at night? If we talking about the surface of the planet, yes it is flat.

Cheerful Spring

jonnycivic wrote: »

Just tell him to walk to the edge and prove its flat then :P

Day and night cycles ( Sun revolves around the earth) and different time zones countries experience compared to another, is all the evidence you need the earth is circular and shaped like a ball. Inside our Earth the land surface is flat there is no land shaped circular in shape.

Are Am Eye

branie2 wrote: »

Christopher Columbus proved the earth was round

Read a book or something will you.
Or wikipedia. For the love of Jesus.
Start with Copernicus.

Ms Doubtfire1

 he's now saying it's not exactly flat but shaped like a saucer and the northpole is the rim so we can't fall off...#IGIVEUP

valoren

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts - Bertrand Russell

Alternatively...

Oi! No! The world is round, it's been round, and it will be round forever! - Stephen Hawking.

Zubeneschamali

Ms Doubtfire1 wrote: »

how do you convince someone that the earth is round

If the Earth was flat and there was a real risk of falling off, it would be important to convince round-earthers that they are wrong, but the Earth is round and flat earthers are not in any danger.

It's a bit like God - if the God of the Bible existed, it would be important that everyone believes it, but God, and afterlives are not real so people can believe or not, makes no odds.

johnnyskeleton

As far as I can tell, before the internet the last people to believe that the earth was flat were in ancient Babylon some 3k years ago. So either your friend is a really insightful clasdical scholar who is expounding on their beliefs, or else hes had too much internet

Red_Wake

Get him a login, this place needs a new idiot.

Academic

I suspect that for at least some "flat earthers" it's simply a familiar sort of attention-getting behaviour. Ditto for those who claim the U.S. never went to the moon.

corner of hells

I work with a born again Christian who believes in creationism and will also tell us she gets prophetic dreams.
She will also start praying and quote from the bible to us while work.

Carry

There are actually flat earthers abound. They are dead serious, it seems:
https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/

Their arguments are delightfully bonkers:
https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions

I especially like this one:

The earth is surrounded on all sides by an ice wall that holds the oceans back. This ice wall is what explorers have named Antarctica. Beyond the ice wall is a topic of great interest to the Flat Earth Society. To our knowledge, no one has been very far past the ice wall and returned to tell of their journey. What we do know is that it encircles the earth and serves to hold in our oceans and helps protect us from whatever lies beyond

Interesting times ahead considering climate change and melting ice ...

Ipso

Academic wrote: »

I suspect that for at least some "flat earthers" it's simply a familiar sort of attention-getting behaviour. Ditto for those who claim the U.S. never went to the moon.

It also makes them feel special, to them everyone else is wrong and they are the only people to "get it".

namloc1980

Ms Doubtfire1 wrote: »

To my HUGE surprise one of my friends ( know him for a few years) believes that the earth is flat, has a dome, and as such, we were never on the moon.
He is adamant he's right...I'm just about done laughing here but..any opinions ? I mean - how do you convince someone that the earth is round...you can even see it on Long distance flights...>sigh<.

Does he watch football on Sky Sports? Ask him to explain satellite TV or how eclipses work or seasons or why summer daylight is longer than winter days. Or why can't you see My Everest from Ireland?

namloc1980

namloc1980 wrote: »

Does he watch football on Sky Sports? Ask him to explain satellite TV or how eclipses work or seasons or why summer daylight is longer than winter days. Or why can't you see My Everest from Ireland?

Or just if he has GPS in the car, or Google Earth on his phone, or a million other things that prove him wrong. Not that it'll make any difference, he stands out as a flat-earther, that's why he says he believes it.

5starpool

branie2 wrote: »

Christopher Columbus proved the earth was round

How did he prove that?

Academic

Carry wrote: »

There are actually flat earthers abound. They are dead serious, it seems:
https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/

Their arguments are delightfully bonkers:
https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions

I especially like this one:



Interesting times ahead considering climate change and melting ice ...

Well, they claim to be serious. That doesn't mean they are.

Capt'n Midnight

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I have evidence

I have counter evidence.

If the earth is flat, explain mountains ?

Checkmate.




And besides https://i.imgur.com/dSAs5OZ.jpg

Pherekydes

corner of hells wrote: »

I work with a born again Christian who believes in creationism and will also tell us she gets prophetic dreams.
She will also start praying and quote from the bible to us while work.

Quote Timothy 2:12 back at her.

branie2

Which timothy? There are two letters to him in the Bible.

Are Am Eye

Two letters and he doesnt even write back.

Anyway - flat earth is a bit old and boring. Its been done to death. Much cooler is people who have an alternative chronology of earths history. Gary kasparov is one of these by the way. Theres different ones but for example.... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Chronology_(Fomenko)

Just tell him to go to the coast and watch a ship sail over the horizon as opposed to simply getting smaller and smaller until invisible to even the most powerful binoculars.

But, I really think he's having out on.

ohnonotgmail

Pherekydes wrote: »

Quote Timothy 2:12 back at her.

branie2 wrote: »

Which timothy? There are two letters to him in the Bible.

this one presumably

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence

Fakediamond

If you want to hear crazy, watch Jesus Camp on Netflix, people (especially children) can be brainwashed into believing anything. Theres one bloke, I think his name is Ted Haggard, who comes across as a sociopath, and he runs a mega church. It's terrifying that so many people, now grown up and of voting age, have a completely skewed world view because of indoctrination, God created the world in 7 days etc.

branie2

Haggard appeared in The God Delusion: The Root of all evil, and after being interviewed by Richard Dawkins, roared at him to get off his church property.

Ipso

He was also found out to be a fan of male hoors and the crystal meth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard#Scandal_and_removal_from_job

bucketybuck

I judge people by the friends they keep.

Ipso

I read about The Highgate Vampire incident (basically lying nut jobs) a while back and apart from all the regular nonsense there were two people involved in it the nonsense (Sean Manchester and David Farrant) that really stood out.
The things that people can delude themselves into thinking happened is fascinating.

Carry

Carry wrote: »

There are actually flat earthers abound. They are dead serious, it seems:
https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/

Their arguments are delightfully bonkers:
https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions

I especially like this one:



Interesting times ahead considering climate change and melting ice ...

The White Walkers are coming from behind that wall!

Capt'n Midnight

Deleted User wrote: »

Just tell him to go to the coast and watch a ship sail over the horizon as opposed to simply getting smaller and smaller until invisible to even the most powerful binoculars.

Everyone knows there's less air the higher up you go.

So the atmosphere acts like a giant lens thicker in the middle because there's more air and thinner at the top. And like a mirage this bends the rays of light which is why the horizon appears to curve even though it doesn't.

PandaPoo

What do flat earthers fear the most?



Sphere itself

ScrubsfanChris

Any excuse to roll this back out.....

ScrubsfanChris

Some Flat-Earthers say Monday’s solar eclipse just proved the world isn't round
The Flat-Earthers questioned why they were told not to look at the eclipse directly. They also questioned how an object could cast a shadow smaller than itself

http://nationalpost.com/news/world/some-flat-earthers-believe-the-solar-eclipse-proved-the-world-isnt-round-heres-why/wcm/ffacd3e9-5569-45e0-b494-85173f5486a2

Wibbs

Are Am Eye wrote: »

Read a book or something will you.
Or wikipedia. For the love of Jesus.
Start with Copernicus.

Actually go way back before Copernicus. His deal was proving the heliocentric theory of the solar system. That the earth was a sphere was established by the Greeks, Romans and Egyptians and was seen as a given from then on. The first globe map of the Earth was over two thousand years ago(Greek). IIRC it was either Plato or Aristotle who described the earth as like a leather ball floating in space. They even had a good go at measuring how big it was*. A few figures were suggested. A couple were pretty accurate. The more accepted one wasn't and underestimated the size of the globe. It was this figure that convinced Columbus and others that on the other side of the Atlantic was the Indies. Finding the Americas and the Pacific in the way was a bit of a problem... Either way a flat earther hanging around in 10th century Europe would have been seen as an idiot by learned folks.










*IIRC Stick a pole in the ground measure the length of the shadow at noon, do it again 20 miles away, that gives you the two angles and one length of the side of a triangle and after that with a bit of Pythagorus going on you can work out how big the globe is and the distance to the sun while you're at it.

branie2

They go round in circles