Pedestrians hit by car in Dublin

Pelvis

Only just hearing about this now, happened yesterday. Anyone know any details?

Surprising, considering what's happening in the world, that more of a "thing" hasn't been made of it.

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2017/0822/899270-adelaide-crash/

ace_irl

I believe it is being treated as a tragic accident. Per the journal, they have ruled out any links to terror activities.

http://www.thejournal.ie/major-crash-dublin-3559546-Aug2017/

Kimbot

Heard about it this morning, they are putting it down to been an accident. Hopefully everyone involved are ok.

freshpopcorn

Thread was done on this last night!

Fr_Dougal

Thought it was on purpose yesterday evening when the news broke. Looks like there was a technical issue with an automatic car being used by a disabled driver.

Atlantic Dawn

Story seems to be buried by the media for whatever reason. It didn't even make first story on last nights RTE News at 9.

everlast75

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Story seems to be buried by the media for whatever reason. It didn't even make first story on last nights RTE News at 9.

Maybe they were waiting on the facts before posting a piece speculating

Grayson

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Story seems to be buried by the media for whatever reason. It didn't even make first story on last nights RTE News at 9.

I got a news alert on my phone from the Irish Times when it happened.
They're hiding it pretty well.

Danbo!

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Story seems to be buried by the media for whatever reason. It didn't even make first story on last nights RTE News at 9.

More than likely it's because it was an accident and judging by the thread started last night with a ridiculous thread title, people were jumping to conclusions about what happened. It's still big enough news because of the number of injuries, but then again an off-duty garda shooting someone around the corner will grab more attention.

Hopefully the injured recover soon.

Captain Obvious

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Story seems to be buried by the media for whatever reason. It didn't even make first story on last nights RTE News at 9.

Buried? It's on the front of RTE News and The Journal. It's only a traffic accident after all.

seamus

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Story seems to be buried by the media for whatever reason. It didn't even make first story on last nights RTE News at 9.

Anything which isn't headline news is "buried". Of course it is.

Maybe, you know, reporters were on the scene and spoke to Gardai who said that it was an accident?

Why would a car accident be the first story on RTE News at 9?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Story seems to be buried by the media for whatever reason. It didn't even make first story on last nights RTE News at 9.

It's on the front page of the Irish Times this morning. Why would it be the main headline on the 9 o'clock news? It's just a traffic accident.

languagenerd

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Story seems to be buried by the media for whatever reason. It didn't even make first story on last nights RTE News at 9.

It didn't warrant being the first story - lots of road crashes don't even make the news at all, even when ambulances are involved. Around the same time as this one, there was an accident on the M1 yesterday that caused chaos and there was another on the ring road in Cork earlier in the day, but neither of them were reported in the news at all.

The crash on Adelaide Rd was horrible with the number of injuries but it was a road accident. It made the news because of the freak nature of it - car overturning and hitting pedestrians. It's not necessarily the most important story though. No-one's burying it any more than they'd "bury" other traffic stories. If it looked like terrorism, it woulda been the top story, but it must've been fairly clear from the start that it wasn't.

Your Face

Grayson wrote: »

I got a news alert on my phone from the Irish Times when it happened.
They're hiding it pretty well.

By sending an alert straight to your phone?
Haha.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Grayson wrote: »

I got a news alert on my phone from the Irish Times when it happened.
They're hiding it pretty well.

Your Face wrote: »

By sending an alert straight to your phone?
Haha.

Whoosh!

Assetbacked

"Gardaí said that it appeared from initial investigations that a number of pedestrians were struck by a car but they stressed that it was not a hit-and-run."

Disabled driver...

Pelvis

Those damn disableists!

Your Face

Sam Uneven Somewhere wrote: »

Whoosh!

Was that you jizzing your pants?

ThisRegard

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Story seems to be buried by the media for whatever reason. It didn't even make first story on last nights RTE News at 9.

Because it was much ado about nothing for the main evening news. It was everywhere else not long after it happened.

ohnonotgmail

Your Face wrote: »

Was that you jizzing your pants?

you need to adjust your sarcasm-meter.

Your Face

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you need to adjust your sarcasm-meter.

Ditto.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Your Face wrote: »

Was that you jizzing your pants?

Oh, try to keep up!

Danbo!

A 24-year-old man has died in hospital today after a car mounted a pavement in Dublin last month.
The pedestrian died in Beaumont hospital today following the crash on Adelaide Road on August 22.
Read More: Pedestrian remains in 'serious condition' as gardaí renew appeal for information on Dublin crash
A silver Saab convertible car collided with four male pedestrians shortly after 6pm.

The female driver and one pedestrian were taken to St. Vincent’s hospital.
One pedestrian was taken to Tallaght hospital and another was taken to St. James hospital.

A fourth pedestrian was taken to St. James hospital and was transferred to Beaumont hospital with serious head injuries. He was pronounced dead today.
Investigating Gardaí are appealing to any person who may have witnessed this collision or to any motorists with dash cam footage to contact Pearse St Garda Station on 01- 666 9000, the Garda Confidential Line 1800 666 111 or any Garda Station.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-24-dies-after-car-struck-pedestrians-on-pavement-36106495.html

Assetbacked

Still no closer to establishing what happened other than the car struck the pedestrians?!

kylith

Assetbacked wrote: »

Still no closer to establishing what happened other than the car struck the pedestrians?!

AFAIK there was a malfunction in a car modified for a disabled driver which caused it to go out of control.

super_furry

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Buried? It's on the front of RTE News and The Journal. It's only a traffic accident after all.

What he means is 'why isn't everyone frothing at the mouth over this and screaming about on from a multitude on 24-hours news channels?'

Captain Obvious

Assetbacked wrote: »

Still no closer to establishing what happened other than the car struck the pedestrians?!

I'd say it's been well established.

Canis Lupus

Assetbacked wrote: »

Still no closer to establishing what happened other than the car struck the pedestrians?!

You can stand down. It wasn't de muzlamics and MSM isn't trying to cover it up.

super_furry

Assetbacked wrote: »

Still no closer to establishing what happened other than the car struck the pedestrians?!

Isn't that close enough? A car struck pedestrians. It was an accident.

I mean, I'm guessing that you're waiting for muslims to be implicated here.

bigar

super_furry wrote: »

Isn't that close enough? A car struck pedestrians. It was an accident.

I mean, I'm guessing that you're waiting for muslims to be implicated here.

Or a cyclist that happened to pass by, preferably one that just went through red and almost mowed someone down :P

Hector Bellend

A bit of an aul tip

Assetbacked

super_furry wrote: »

Isn't that close enough? A car struck pedestrians. It was an accident.

I mean, I'm guessing that you're waiting for muslims to be implicated here.

No of course not, just getting at perhaps the media are pussyfooting around saying the driver "lost control" or saying anything bad at all about the driver purely because she was disabled. A driver does not simply lose control and if it was the case that the woman was incapable of driving then this should be highlighted; where is the dangerous driving claim? This cannot just be an accident, particularly where a man has died. There needs to be implications.

bucketybuck

Assetbacked wrote: »

No of course not, just getting at perhaps the media are pussyfooting around saying the driver "lost control" or saying anything bad at all about the driver purely because she was disabled. A driver does not simply lose control and if it was the case that the woman was incapable of driving then this should be highlighted; where is the dangerous driving claim? This cannot just be an accident, particularly where a man has died. There needs to be implications.

Or it could be a simple mechanical issue, cars specially adapted for disabled drivers can have some very complex rigs in them, depending on the specific details of the disability.

So if a linkage seized or a wire shorted causing a malfunction that the disabled driver couldn't correct what should happen next? Ban disabled people from driving modified cars? **** that, it would be a major overreaction to an isolated incident. Increase scrutiny and oversight of these modifications? They are already incredibly expensive due to the stringent regulations involved in getting one, further scrutiny would probably be utterly redundant. Lynch the driver and make an example of him or her so that people feel better and other disabled drivers stop being such a menance on the road? Yeah, that would be useful.

Or let the appropriate authorities investigate the incident and take what action they deem appropriate? Nah, that would never work.

Captain Obvious

Assetbacked wrote: »

No of course not, just getting at perhaps the media are pussyfooting around saying the driver "lost control" or saying anything bad at all about the driver purely because she was disabled. A driver does not simply lose control and if it was the case that the woman was incapable of driving then this should be highlighted; where is the dangerous driving claim? This cannot just be an accident, particularly where a man has died. There needs to be implications.

Dangerous driving claims are usually done in courts. Just because something doesn't appear in the news doesn't mean it has been abandoned. There will be a criminal investigation, a civil claim and an inquest. That's where the facts will be released to the public.

Assetbacked

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Dangerous driving claims are usually done in courts. Just because something doesn't appear in the news doesn't mean it has been abandoned. There will be a criminal investigation, a civil claim and an inquest. That's where the facts will be released to the public.

Okay; my own view is that the media do not want to publish anything as they are afraid to seem to be criticising disabled people. This is an issue because pure statement of fact that "but for the driver being disabled the accident would not have happened" is not offensive. That is why I am curious as to why information about the crash has been released.

ohnonotgmail

Assetbacked wrote: »

Okay; my own view is that the media do not want to publish anything as they are afraid to seem to be criticising disabled people. This is an issue because pure statement of fact that "but for the driver being disabled the accident would not have happened" is not offensive. That is why I am curious as to why information about the crash has been released.

we dont know that the driver being disabled was the cause of the accident.

Captain Obvious

Assetbacked wrote: »

Okay; my own view is that the media do not want to publish anything as they are afraid to seem to be criticising disabled people. This is an issue because pure statement of fact that "but for the driver being disabled the accident would not have happened" is not offensive. That is why I am curious as to why information about the crash has been released.

The you think it is usual practice for the media to assign blame and publish full details of fatal road traffic accidents?

Academic

Frankly, there's no reason why a traffic accident should be a matter for national news in the first place; it's a purely local matter.

Assetbacked

Captain Obvious wrote: »

The you think it is usual practice for the media to assign blame and publish full details of fatal road traffic accidents?

Some reading between the lines is required, particularly where, for example one reads of a single car crash at 2am where the vehicle left the road. Speed and/or alcohol and/or falling asleep likely causes.

Assetbacked

Academic wrote: »

Frankly, there's no reason why a traffic accident should be a matter for national news in the first place; it's a purely local matter.

Where someone dies, several pedestrians get injured, it happens in a busy city centre and the circumstances would initially spike thoughts of the recent terror attacks in Europe. That's why it would be strange to not have it in national news.

Pelvis

Academic wrote: »

Frankly, there's no reason why a traffic accident should be a matter for national news in the first place; it's a purely local matter.

Really? So the 5 girls killed in a bus crash in 2005 or 8 people killed in the 2010 Donegal crash were not matters for the national news?

ohnonotgmail

Assetbacked wrote: »

Where someone dies, several pedestrians get injured, it happens in a busy city centre and the circumstances would initially spike thoughts of the recent terror attacks in Europe. That's why it would be strange to not have it in national news.

once it was established it was just an RTC then it was no longer national news.

Assetbacked

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

once it was established it was just an RTC then it was no longer national news.

Fine. Regional news?

Academic

Assetbacked wrote: »

Fine. Regional news?

Could be.

RustyNut

Assetbacked wrote: »

Fine. Regional news?

I first heard about this on rte radio 1 and seen the pictures on irish indo website.

seamus

How many times do you ever hear about the cause of a crash?

People die every weekend and we never hear anything about the "why" except that, "the vehicle collided with..." or "the vehicle left the road".

If you assume that bias exists, you see it everywhere. Even where it doesn't exist. The media aren't commenting on the cause of this crash because they virtually never comment on the cause of any crash.

I love Sean nos

Danbo! wrote: »

an off-duty garda shooting someone around the corner will grab more attention.

A guard that can shoot round corners would certainly be worth a look.

Academic

Assetbacked wrote: »

Fine. Regional news?

Academic wrote: »

Could be.

RustyNut wrote: »

I first heard about this on rte radio 1 and seen the pictures on irish indo website.

We've already established, as long ago as the first post, that this was reported on the national news. The discussion concerns whether or not it should have been.

wakka12

seamus wrote: »

How many times do you ever hear about the cause of a crash?

People die every weekend and we never hear anything about the "why" except that, "the vehicle collided with..." or "the vehicle left the road".

If you assume that bias exists, you see it everywhere. Even where it doesn't exist. The media aren't commenting on the cause of this crash because they virtually never comment on the cause of any crash.

The media did comment on the cause of the crash though..otherwise how would people in this thread know what happened? Also a car hitting a group of people in Dublin city centre is a bit more exceptional and news worthy than a car crashing in a ditch in Carlow

languagenerd

You generally only hear about the causes of an accident if it goes to a trial or an inquest. There will likely be an inquest in this case, and the media will then report on it. At the moment, the guards are likely investigating and the media won't want to publish speculation to avoid being in contempt of court if there *is* a trial later.

That said, as sad as this case is, not all road deaths are big news stories. If the victim's family want to name him and talk to the press, you might see some stories, but if not, that's that.

There's no cover-up here, it's being treated like every other road accident.

maudgonner

I love Sean nos wrote: »

A guard that can shoot round corners would certainly be worth a look.