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    #13892
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,215 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Regency bias is definitely a thing, plenty of games suffer from it. Lots of games being held up as classics now that we're very much always regarded as mid or on re-evaluation aren't all that good. I do feel with some old games though people sometimes need to approach them on their own terms rather than what is expected from modern games. Like someone proclaiming that Megaman 2 is garbage because they started the game up and got absolutely bodied by the game on their first go.

    I'm still baffled by the super Metroid slander, so much so that I think I'm going to give the Days Gone bashing a break because this is so much worse.

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    #13893
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,319 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121654288#Comment_121654288

    Indeed. Playing through Goldeneye now is pretty rough, but good god did that game change the industry.



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    #13894
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,272 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121654288#Comment_121654288

    Regency Bias?

    Is that just someone who plays a bit too much Crusader Kings? (lookst at @ancapailldorcha )

    And I'm not bashing Super Metroid, or at least "pile of crap" was possibly a bit hyperbolic and definitely retract that wording.



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    #13895
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,403 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121654331#Comment_121654331

    I remember having just mastered the basics of Crusader Kings II when Paradox announced Crusader Kings III. I still feel a bit salty about it but I don't really play either so much any more. Other titles sort of shoved it aside. CK2 is dead and CK3 was a bit boring as Paradox titles launch with very little flavour for each country or ruler the player chooses.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #13896
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,382 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    For all the fair criticism of how modern game design trends have removed a lot of the interesting friction and challenge from games (mainly in the AAA space), it’s impossible to deny other aspects of modernisation - such as near universal control language and a vast suite of quality of life improvements - are generally a very positive thing. I think that’s why going back to many old games can be so jarring - you often have to relearn the fundamentals and endure rougher edges before even getting to grips with the thing as a piece of art or design.

    While there are some limitations for anyone diving into older film (such as different visual language and more exaggerated acting styles), it’s nowhere near the learning or readjustment curve faced when going back to classic games. And no medium ages faster than gaming - the dawn of 3D graphics in particular led to a lot of stuff that has aged like unrefrigerated milk, even when doing very interesting things with the new form.



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    #13897
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,215 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121654325#Comment_121654325

    I think on goldeneye's case it's more how it aged and feels dated than it not being good at release. Its more games like earthworm Jim that looked amazing but in retrospect are a bit mediocre. Or say legend of dragoon being held up as a classic jrpg when it got hammered in reviews and regarded as being a genre low point for the longest time.

    There's a lot of I grew up with this game and it's awesome and I won't listen to any criticism of it.

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    #13898
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,215 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121654400#Comment_121654400

    Being hardcore enough to enjoy contra is like being racist enough to enjoy birth of a nation.

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    #13899
    McFly85
    Registered Users Posts: 3,044 ✭✭✭McFly85


    There’s definitely games I still enjoy but would find it hard to recommend to others who never played them - like the recently re-released Golden Sun games.

    I love them, they’re comfort games for me, I play through them regularly enough, but I can’t imagine many people would get as much out of them today considering the relatively simple presentation and gameplay(also the intro is interminably long and really tested my patience in my latest playthrough).

    The music is still amazing though.



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    #13900
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,215 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Yep I liked Golden Sun at the time but looking back at it it was the first new rpg for the GBA when the system was in need of RPGs and it looked gorgeous. Now I recognise it as a stealth sequel to PS1 garbage rpg Beyond the Beyond and while it's not as bad it's still very bland and crummy.

    Motoi Sakuraba didn't hold back composing that soundtrack though.

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    #13901
    McFly85
    Registered Users Posts: 3,044 ✭✭✭McFly85


    One of Camelots other GBA games, Mario Golf Advance tour, is, however, a stone cold classic that’s just as good today as it was when it was released, one of the best golf games ever.

    Ive bought all of the follow up Mario golf games and none of them hold a candle to it.



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    #13902
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,215 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121654668#Comment_121654668

    Yeah it's brilliant. Their GBC game was excellent as well. They also did some great tennis games and it was them that worked on the first few everybody's golf games for Sony.

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    #13903
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,382 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Have noticed an awful lot of Suicide Squad posters around Dublin City, mainly buses and bus stops. Have definitely seen games advertised on buses before, but seems to be lots of these ones - doesn’t exactly shout confidence in the game’s organic word of mouth 😅



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    #13904
    Mr.Saturn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,926 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121657345#Comment_121657345

    Also tagged with a "from the creators of the Batman Arkman series," as if at pains to get across "unlike that Gotham Knights nonsense."



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    #13905
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,559 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121657547#Comment_121657547

    God imagine if it ends up doing worse than Gotham Knights....



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    #13906
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,272 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    And I see they're already advertising post launch DLC too; honestly can't see how this game isn't gonna immediately crater upon release.



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    #13907
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,783 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121658333#Comment_121658333

    The absolute state of their Joker, makes Leto look like Nicholson.



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    #13908
    MikeRyan87
    Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭MikeRyan87


    I'd say WB would be very happy if SS KTJL did equal or better sales as Gotham Knights.

    Couldn't get passed the first hour of GK. Will give SS when it goes half price or less probably.



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    #13909
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,559 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Tekken 8 & Like A Dyson: Infinite Wealth (as it should henceforth be known) both coming out with mostly great reviews.



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    #13910
    Jordan 199
    Registered Users Posts: 11,897 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121660148#Comment_121660148

    Like a Dyson? Well that sucks...



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    #13911
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,215 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Ah yes, two games I'm interested in and all the discourse about them is being swallowed up by insane Palworld drama.

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    #13912
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,382 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I’m happy for Tekken fans, but fighting games are one of a few genres I’m like ‘yeah this isn’t for me’. I’ll happily let better fighting game players than I (I am terrible at them) enjoy their time with it while I look on with respect for their skills :)

    Infinite Wealth, on the other hand, can’t arrive in my letterbox soon enough.



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    #13913
    Jordan 199
    Registered Users Posts: 11,897 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    I picked up this recently:

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    It will be the first time I play a Company of Heroes game.



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    #13914
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,272 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121660500#Comment_121660500

    Oh man I put so many hours into the original's multiplayer back in the day; such a fabulous game/series



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    #13915
    SuperBowserWorld
    Registered Users Posts: 6,867 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121660500#Comment_121660500

    Never heard of it. But it's got SEGA on there and it's a physical copy.

    Just ordered a second hand physical copy of DOOM 2016. Played the demo last night and it was way better than DOOM Eternal which was too fiddly. I really don't like FPS, but DOOM just feels right, without all the pretend "story" stuff other FPSs throw on top. And 6 quid, what's not to like. 😁

    I see the Dead Space remake is about 20 quid on Amazon. I know that game would scare the **** out of me. But 20 quid is a bargain.



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    #13916
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,215 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121660732#Comment_121660732

    Never knew the series was on console but it's quite popular on PC. It's made by the developer that made the PC classic Homeworld.

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    #13917
    Jordan 199
    Registered Users Posts: 11,897 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121660732#Comment_121660732

    Dead Space is on Game Pass Ultimate if you have it. I downloaded it a few months ago but haven't got the guts to play it.



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    #13918
    Grumpypants
    Registered Users Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121660732#Comment_121660732

    Doom 2016 was great fun. I also liked Doom 3 which is usually knocking around for peanuts.

    It's not quite a modern shooter, it's not quite old school... but you get a good game. No slice of cantaloupe at the end though.



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    #13919
    Luna84
    Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Luna84


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121660835#Comment_121660835

    I would play the Dead Space remaster but I already played the original twice on PC and then on Xbox. It's actually not scary.

    Regarding Doom 2016 that is a brilliant game. Doom Eternal is fiddily as someone put it. Does not flow enough like 2016. I never actually finished Eternal. I got fed up with it.



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    #13920
    SuperBowserWorld
    Registered Users Posts: 6,867 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121660835#Comment_121660835

    I'm GamePass free now. But I'd imagine this is why it's cheaper on Xbox right now. EA seem to put a lot of their stuff on GamePass "permanently".



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    #13921
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,382 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    One of the best things about Doom 2016 is it sorta helped kick off a revitalised genre of ultra fast, movement based FPS games. Feels like Ghostrunner, Neon White, Boomerang X etc… are all part of that push towards super fast first person combat (Neon White particularly being a masterpiece of the form). Between that and the similar though slightly more specific boomer shooter craze, it’s been a good time for the FPS genre. And they’re all games that really sing with mouse and keyboard :)



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