Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

Trigger

Lord TSC wrote: »

Think I read that Jose has settled his tax evasion case, paid the fine and that should be the end of that.

Yep think you are right.. he said case has been closed

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/manchester-united/story/3256625/manchester-united-boss-jose-mourinho-pays-sum-to-settle-tax-case-in-spain

beakerjoe

One less sideshow to worry about.

TheDoc

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I'd go as far as to say it's Joses fault Evra kicked a fan

Jose wouldn't attack like that :cool:

Cantona's Collars

S.M.B. wrote: »

Januzaj has found himself back in the Belgian Squad. Anyone any news on how he is getting on at Sociedad since he left?

Nice assist here.

https://streamable.com/a8iqi

bangkok

Apparently the fan shouted at Evra "i hate mondays"

jayo26

In fairness to Evra the anti racism group is called KICK IT OUT.

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

Apparently the fan shouted at Evra "i hate mondays"

I hate when your funny.... I have to like you.

jambofc

Mata chance at number 10 surely ????
cant be any worse than mickey ryan at the moment

Mitch Connor

jambofc wrote: »

Mata chance at number 10 surely ????
cant be any worse than mickey ryan at the moment

Mourinho just doesn't seem to like him there - either at Chelsea or United.

I could see Lingard getting that role again, did it vs Chelsea before.

TheDoc

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Mourinho just doesn't seem to like him there - either at Chelsea or United.

I could see Lingard getting that role again, did it vs Chelsea before.

Imagine it would be Lingaard. Diligent, engine and has pace on the counter.

Mata at 10 is a pipedream I think, turfed on the right and thats it.

Kerrydude1981

jambofc

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Mourinho just doesn't seem to like him there - either at Chelsea or United.

I could see Lingard getting that role again, did it vs Chelsea before.

love to no why he wont play mata there,lingard has had enough chances and very rarely produces

mata at 10 with matic and anders behind him makes a lot of the right noises for me anyway

Mitch Connor

jambofc wrote: »

love to no why he wont play mata there,lingard has had enough chances and very rarely produces

mata at 10 with matic and anders behind him makes a lot of the right noises for me anyway

Lingard runs, and runs and runs, and runs. His workrate and defensive work is huge. That is a big reason Jose likes him, imo.

Also, I think he is a very intelligent footballer and positions himself well on the pitch and generally makes the right decision (execution another matter).

Lingard will do what Jose wants him to do, tactically.

Jayop

I still like Lingard. I know he has as many off games as good games but he does bring something to the team. Could we have better in there? Of course, but of the options we have now I'd prefer him to Mkhi on current form.

Liam McPoyle

Rumours in one of the rags that Pogs might travel with the squad on Sunday.

I'd rather not risk him (if true) at this point. Let him recupe over the international break and have him back injury free afterwards.

Jayop

Business Cat wrote: »

Rumours in one of the rags that Pogs might travel with the squad on Sunday.

I'd rather not risk him (if true) at this point. Let him recupe over the international break and have him back injury free afterwards.

Yeah. Bottom line is that while this is a big game, it's still only 3 points and risking Pogba being out for another few months is putting more than 3 points at risk.

That said, if they think he's ready I won't complain.

beakerjoe

I wouldnt mind McTominay getting a shout. Love to see him in a big game

S.M.B.

Are we assuming Ander is going to man mark Hazard again? Cause I think he will. As a result I don't think we'll be playing with any 10 and Lingard will start but play a little deeper.

If we had more than 2 fit senior midfielders we'd be dropping them into the starting XI.

Jayop

S.M.B. wrote: »

Are we assuming Ander is going to man mark Hazard again? Cause I think he will. As a result I don't think we'll be playing with any 10 and Lingard will start but play a little deeper.

If we had more than 2 fit senior midfielders we'd be dropping them into the starting XI.

I don't know if he will. Last year we had Pogba to provide the creativity while Ander was chasing Hazard. Without Pogba I think we'd need Ander to be getting on the ball.

Personally if there's to be a man marking job I'd rather see someone else get it.

beakerjoe

Jayop wrote: »

I don't know if he will. Last year we had Pogba to provide the creativity while Ander was chasing Hazard. Without Pogba I think we'd need Ander to be getting on the ball.

Personally if there's to be a man marking job I'd rather see someone else get it.

Matic surely would be man marking this time round,

Herrera was very sloppy on the ball in the Pool game though

Trigger

S.M.B. wrote: »

Are we assuming Ander is going to man mark Hazard again? Cause I think he will. As a result I don't think we'll be playing with any 10 and Lingard will start but play a little deeper.

If we had more than 2 fit senior midfielders we'd be dropping them into the starting XI.

I reckon we could see a Matic Herrera McTominay midfield and Lingard playing on the right/Rashford the left

Jayop

beakerjoe wrote: »

Matic surely would be man marking this time round,

Herrera was very sloppy on the ball in the Pool game though

Jesus I wouldn't waste Matic giving him a man to man job.

Trigger

beakerjoe wrote: »

Matic surely would be man marking this time round,

Herrera was very sloppy on the ball in the Pool game though

Matic won’t be man marking a player that about twice as fast as him, Herrera has the speed to keep up with Hazard..

Jayop

astradave wrote: »

Matic won’t be man marking a player that about twice as fast as him, Herrera has the speed to keep up with Hazard..

As does Lingard actually. I think he'd have the discipline to do it too.

bangkok

Wouldnt be surprised to see phil jones doing a man marking job on hazard

TheDoc

bangkok wrote: »

Wouldnt be surprised to see phil jones doing a man marking job on hazard

Would imagine it will be given to a midfielder, as Jose would want two dedicated CB's occupying the space Morata will be in and players like Willian and Pedro like to drift into.

Expect Hererra to be given the nod again. Would however be shocked if Hazard doesn't work out how to deal with it. He looked a bit mediocre last time around in that respect. Top players get man marked or double up on, and they need to figure it out

bangkok

TheDoc wrote: »

Would imagine it will be given to a midfielder, as Jose would want two dedicated CB's occupying the space Morata will be in and players like Willian and Pedro like to drift into.

Expect Hererra to be given the nod again. Would however be shocked if Hazard doesn't work out how to deal with it. He looked a bit mediocre last time around in that respect. Top players get man marked or double up on, and they need to figure it out

Sorry meant Jones playing in midfield doing that exact job. Smalling bailly 2 centre backs. 3 in midfield matic herrera and jones marking hazard rashford lingard and lukaku in the forwards

Jayop

bangkok wrote: »

Wouldnt be surprised to see phil jones doing a man marking job on hazard

Normally I'd agree but if he's fit he's playing too well at CB to not play there. Just like Matic with DM and Herrera as our only midfield playmaker (while not playing well right now). I think Lingard could be a decent shout there, or maybe Young.

limnam

Before the influx of whining about formations/team selections/tactics.

We've beaten Chelsea twice in 19 years at the bridge in the league

A draw on Sunday is a fantastic point.

adox

limnam wrote: »

Before the influx of whining about formations/team selections/tactics.

We've beaten Chelsea twice in 19 years at the bridge in the league

A draw on Sunday is a fantastic point.

That may be but doesn’t mean all of the above can’t be critiqued as they unfold.

This is a discussion forum after all. Also “whining” is a bit disingenuous.

Jayop

A draw historically would be a great point, but should Arsenal lose to City in the early game then that really puts us on the back foot and may even force Jose's hand a little.

Going into an away game at Chelsea 8 points down after 10 games when we really haven't had a bad start is quite unreal.


it's also a weaker looking Chelsea team than we've seen for a long time. A win puts them 7 behind us and 12 off the lead.

bangkok

limnam wrote: »

Before the influx of whining about formations/team selections/tactics.

We've beaten Chelsea twice in 19 years at the bridge in the league

A draw on Sunday is a fantastic point.

A draw would be a good result providing we try and get all 3 points and show a lot more than we did at liverpool. Think most would be happy with that. An ultra defensive performance after city hammer arseanl i dont think fans will be happy

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

A draw would be a good result providing we try and get all 3 points and show a lot more than we did at liverpool. Think most would be happy with that. An ultra defensive performance after city hammer arseanl i dont think fans will be happy

That's some post right there.

A draw is only a good result if we go for a win?

So is a loss an ok result as long as we go for a win?

We are not going to Chelsea and trying to win a game by out playing them that won't happen we will go there and try catch them on the break that's how he rolls and how he wins stuff.

Why are fans so suddenly against all this now? It's not entertaining but it's how he does it and how he wins if we don't win the league this year it will be because of poor performances against Huddersfield and stoke that cost us not draws away to Chelsea and Liverpool.

beakerjoe

jayo26 wrote: »

That's some post right there.

A draw is only a good result if we go for a win?

So is a loss an ok result as long as we go for a win?

We are not going to Chelsea and trying to win a game by out playing them that won't happen we will go there and try catch them on the break that's how he rolls and how he wins stuff.

Why are fans so suddenly against all this now? It's not entertaining but it's how he does it and how he wins if we don't win the league this year it will be because of poor performances against Huddersfield and stoke that cost us not draws away to Chelsea and Liverpool.

Against Chelsea this sunday, Id be happy with a draw or and delighted with a win no matter how we play, its the result that matters.

pjohnson

Hopefully we try to attack, and loose 3-0. Would that be ideal bangkok?

DM_7

bangkok wrote: »

A draw would be a good result providing we try and get all 3 points and show a lot more than we did at liverpool. Think most would be happy with that. An ultra defensive performance after city hammer arseanl i dont think fans will be happy

A defensive approach can be a team trying to get three points.

Yes, they need to do better with the ball than they did against Liverpool but without the ball I expect the same.

City result is not relevant.

bangkok

jayo26 wrote: »

That's some post right there.

A draw is only a good result if we go for a win?

So is a loss an ok result as long as we go for a win?

We are not going to Chelsea and trying to win a game by out playing them that won't happen we will go there and try catch them on the break that's how he rolls and how he wins stuff.

Why are fans so suddenly against all this now? It's not entertaining but it's how he does it and how he wins if we don't win the league this year it will be because of poor performances against Huddersfield and stoke that cost us not draws away to Chelsea and Liverpool.

If we show more attacking intent and not have martial or rashford playing as a left back most of the game or leave lukaku isolated up front.

bangkok

DM_7 wrote: »

A defensive approach can be a team trying to get three points.

Yes, they need to do better with the ball than they did against Liverpool but without the ball I expect the same.

City result is not relevant.

City result is very relevant ro both teams. If they beat arsenal they are 12 clear of chelsea before ko meaning chelsea will have to go for all 3 points making game more open for us to counter

secman

jayo26 wrote: »

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Why are fans so suddenly against all this now? It's not entertaining but it's how he does it and how he wins if we don't win the league this year it will be because of poor performances against Huddersfield and stoke that cost us not draws away to Chelsea and Liverpool.

Nothing sudden about it at all , never wanted his style of management next or near the club.

jayo26

secman wrote: »

Nothing sudden about it at all , never wanted his style of management next or near the club.

So what's your trade off ?? Would you prefer suffer a few games of boring football for trophies or have rock and roll football like pool and no hope of a trophies?

City seem to have the mix of both worlds at the moment but they have yet to actually win a trophie under pep.
That will more then likely change this summer alright.

pjohnson

jayo26 wrote: »

So what's your trade off ?? Would you prefer suffer a few games of boring football for trophies or have rock and roll football like pool and no hope of a trophies?

City seem to have the mix of both worlds at the moment but they have yet to actually win a trophie under pep.
That will more then likely change this summer alright.

Apparently Liverpool/Blackpool style is better. High scoring a f*** all silverware but wahey we get excitement.

DM_7

bangkok wrote: »

City result is very relevant ro both teams. If they beat arsenal they are 12 clear of chelsea before ko meaning chelsea will have to go for all 3 points making game more open for us to counter

Chelsea and United are going into this game looking to win. How they try to do it won't change because of what City do.

bucketybuck

DM_7 wrote: »

Chelsea and United are going into this game looking to win.

Well, that's the rub isn't it. Are they both?

secman

jayo26 wrote: »

So what's your trade off ?? Would you prefer suffer a few games of boring football for trophies or have rock and roll football like pool and no hope of a trophies?

City seem to have the mix of both worlds at the moment but they have yet to actually win a trophie under pep.
That will more then likely change this summer alright.

My comment was in relation to the "sudden" problem fans had with Mourinho' s tactics.......

secman

pjohnson wrote: »

Apparently Liverpool/Blackpool style is better. High scoring a f*** all silverware but wahey we get excitement.

Why are you talking about other teams ? I'm only interested in United

jayo26

secman wrote: »

My comment was in relation to the "sudden" problem fans had with Mourinho' s tactics.......

Yes saying you didn't want the style jose brings so I asked what would you prefer?

Trigger

jayo26 wrote: »

Yes saying you didn't want the style jose brings so I asked what would you prefer?

I’d prefer to ask who realistically would secman prefer?

jayo26

astradave wrote: »

I’d prefer to ask who realistically would secman prefer?

Yea that's a fair point.

Nalz

Spoilt fackas

deaddonkey15

jayo26 wrote: »

So what's your trade off ?? Would you prefer suffer a few games of boring football for trophies or have rock and roll football like pool and no hope of a trophies?

City seem to have the mix of both worlds at the moment but they have yet to actually win a trophie under pep.
That will more then likely change this summer alright.

Answered your own question there.