Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

adox

Yeah nothing about Utd again so yeah that’s me done with PJ. I’m not getting dragged down that rabbit hole any more.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Dave just unbelievable tonight. Lingard gets MOTM tho!!

jayo26

Until the pogba red card I actually thought United again were after getting on top if it after arsenal scored we got our goal and were doing enough to make sure arsenal didn't get a rhythm going it was similar in the week against Watford I'd like to think both instances showed we had plenty left in the tank if needed.

limnam

Is this the most amount of points we've had at this point in a PL season?

pjohnson

I'll try again for those who couldnt see the first attempt.

Lord TSC wrote: »

We've CSKA next, yeah? Be nice to get the qualification official.

I would drop Pogba. Granted its not like he will need a rest but I think it'd be a good chance to try the new shape in midfield before we take on Man City. We dont have an exact Pogba replacement so I'll imagine we have to alter this formation for next week now. Might aswell use the CL game as a kinda dress rehersal. Thoughts?

Cantona's Collars

M!Ck^ wrote: »

First game I didn't get too see all season
Sounds like a good one
Shame about Pogba getting sent off
Lots to catch up on. MOTD tonight too

Same as, typical that it was one great game.

Leroy42

Great result, Arsenal were on a run of 18 without loss at home and on a bit of a run since the pool game.

I would've taken a point before the game. Utd have been in a bit of a lull the last few weeks, though with Pogba back (opps) things were looking better. Arsenal had all the ball, and plenty of shots but we took advantage of two mistakes and any team that loses three goals is always going to struggle to get a result. We were without our two main CB's so hardly surprising we struggled and the problems Arsenal have have never been down to lack of quality up front so to hold out to concede only 1 is a great result. (although we were very lucky and had DDG)

Going to enjoy watching the highlights tonight.

Spurs dropped points again.

Oh and M!ck^, hows about you do everyone a favour a miss the city game as well:D

adox

I’d say if match of the day were to show all the highlights they would run for about 75 minutes! There was that much action in the game.

Lord TSC

pjohnson wrote: »

I'll try again for those who couldnt see the first attempt.



I would drop Pogba. Granted its not like he will need a rest but I think it'd be a good chance to try the new shape in midfield before we take on Man City. We dont have an exact Pogba replacement so I'll imagine we have to alter this formation for next week now. Might aswell use the CL game as a kinda dress rehersal. Thoughts?

On the other hand, Pogba is going to get a three game rest after the CL match. I'd rather rest the likes of Matic get a game off.

The_Kew_Tour

Well the heart ain't too good after that but good win.

I think a point would not have been bad result but 3 is huge.

Pogba huge loss for City and they are slight fave to beat us next week now, but I don't fear them and reckon we can beat them.

will enjoy today first. Been while since beat them

StringerBell

pjohnson wrote: »

sure as fcuk sounds like that lad was hounded out if it got fcuking personal and he had to go for his own sake....but no its about me apparently?

Shag this. Time for the pub.

Nope, not a thing with anybody in this thread. Like I said I won't go in to it here. Suffice to say, there is a certain element that did have a private group, that did target people outside boards and did cross a line.

But No, no hounding of anybody from this particular fan thread.

adox

adox wrote: »

I’d say if match of the day were to show all the highlights they would run for about 75 minutes! There was that much action in the game.

Can't wait to see it.
Comical amount of salt in the match thread too haha

StringerBell

StringerBell wrote: »

Nope, not a thing with anybody in this thread. Like I said I won't go in to it here. Suffice to say, there is a certain element that did have a private group, that did target people outside boards and did cross a line.

But No, no hounding of anybody from this particular fan thread.

Sure I had a paragraph written about me! Weird stuff.

My own fanbase

Islander13

Prices with the bookmakers for the Derby

United - 3/1
Draw - 11/4
City - Evens

So 50% chance or thereabouts of getting something from it. Not often a team are even money at Old Trafford

The_Kew_Tour

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Sure I had a paragraph written about me! Weird stuff.

My own fanbase

I can read between the lines about posters who don't like me. You can just know.

That same poster had swipe at me ( I only got 1 sentence) called me something can't remember what for me liking post on Twitter. When I read post on Twitter to reply from me it's usually just me acknowling the post.

I actually thought that Poster was sound and was good skin. Not sure what happened.

but it's only a fourm. Everyone has their own Personal Problems and a life outside here. Life is too short. Maybe it's me getting old.:pac:

and it's not stopping me enjoying win tonight. ole

The_Kew_Tour

Islander13 wrote: »

Prices with the bookmakers for the Derby

United - 3/1
Draw - 11/4
City - Evens

So 50% chance or thereabouts of getting something from it. Not often a team are even money at Old Trafford

we are a bet at that. Huge price.

DM_7

Good to see a win in a classic game. Bit of a mess at times but the risk of inviting them on to hit them on the break worked great. Well done Jesse, very happy with his movement, reading of game for the second of his goals. The composed finish for his first, much like Watford points to someone really getting confident in his right to play for United.

Dave is the best.

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Seems it's ok to talk about how good City are in here all of a sudden. It was frowned upon to say the least only a few weeks ago.

I certainly wouldn't say beating them is an impossible task. Hopefully the fact that it's on in Old Trafford might offset Pogba's absence somewhat. If City were at home I reckon we'd have been in for a long afternoon of backs to the wall defending.

Do you really need someone to post that City is the next league game?

KaiserGunner

M!Ck^ wrote: »

First game I didn't get too see all season
Sounds like a good one
Shame about Pogba getting sent off
Lots to catch up on. MOTD tonight too

adox wrote: »

I’d say if match of the day were to show all the highlights they would run for about 75 minutes! There was that much action in the game.

Do yourself a favour Mick and watch the full 90 minutes and not MOTD. Great game for a neutral and a Utd fan. Surreal match in some ways.

adox

KaiserGunner wrote: »

Do yourself a favour Mick and watch the full 90 minutes and not MOTD. Great game for a neutral and a Utd fan. Surreal match in some ways.

Put it this way. There were that many goal line scrambles, near misses etc that she some of them were happening the commentators were talking about something else. They’d become immune to them.

Cantona's Collars

KaiserGunner wrote: »

Do yourself a favour Mick and watch the full 90 minutes and not MOTD. Great game for a neutral and a Utd fan. Surreal match in some ways.

MUTV will show the full game from midnight.

beno619

Lingard has been immense the past two games. When he's at it he's a real pox to play against.

I also love how much his celebrations wind up opposition fans.

adox

Utd on first on MOTD. 10.20pm

VW 1

Hococop wrote:

Wonder will he be picked for the world 11

Probably give it to buffon if he's retiring at seasons end.

Jayop

Lord TSC wrote: »

On the other hand, Pogba is going to get a three game rest after the CL match. I'd rather rest the likes of Matic get a game off.

Couldn't agree more. Pogba should play 90 midweek and put Matic in cotton wool.

fatherted1969

Think I watched most of that game from behind the couch what a great game. Coughed up an unreal amount of chances though. Enjoy the day but we cannot afford to be that porous against City next week or we'll be absolutely destroyed. Unreal performance from De Gea, don't know how he got to some of those attempts

Alf Veedersane

Missed the match so watching MOTD with the full 90 lined up for the morning when I pack everyone off out of the house.

Martial's touch for the second....sploosh

StringerBell

Watching again now on MOTD, Martial's flick for the second was filthy

Also, meant to say earlier, to say we took advantage of a couple of mistakes at the start and leave out the work Lingard put in pressing and harrying to force the mistake for the second is wrong imo.

The tactics were pretty much spot on at the start, a wobble for a period after the break for sure, all round a great game of ball. Arsenal were unreal creatively!

scudzilla

Just came watching DDG

jimmytwotimes 2013

United going better than expected and I'd still be happy with a solid top three finish this year as that would be progress over the last few years.

One issue that we seem to have is Jose is reluctant to play just two CBs and probably doesn't trust leaving Lindelof or Smalling as two, or one of two, CBs. That then leaves Pogba as one of two CMs which leaves us very open.

caviardreams

Any sign of Jone or Bailly being back? Whilst the other guys have done well the last few matches, I do feel we look more solid with Jones & Bailly at the back.

StringerBell

De Gea performance gets better on a second viewing, that double save from Lacazette then Sanchez.

Alf Veedersane

The look on Lacazette's face that said "how the actual f*ck" when DDG made that double save.

Drown me in the tears of your sorrow.

ElChe32

I'm on the beers. I love you all.

StringerBell

StringerBell wrote: »

De Gea performance gets better on a second viewing, that double save from Lacazette then Sanchez.

Just watched that. It's near a cyborg level of a reaction save.
Worlds best, just crown him already.

Pogba only misses one game not three I thought?

adox

I think Smalling has been as impressive as anyone at the back this season. There is no way I’d be shifting him out of the team for anyone.

Jones can’t be relied upon and I think it’s only a matter of time before Jose loses patience with him and moves him on.

Lindelof has looked pretty solid the last few games and he won’t get tested as much as he did today for a long time.

I know there’s a lot of love for Rojo in here but I just don’t trust him. Thought he was one of the ones at fault for the goal, stepping up try8ng to play offside instead of holding his ground.

Anyway I don’t think the CBS are the problem with us giving up a lot of chances. I still think it stems from the midfield set up and lack of cover they get.

Fair ****s to Shearer fro praising Utd so much. Would have been so easy to say how unlucky Arsenal were etc but he was having none of it.

Oh and(I’ll be lambasted for this I’m sure but) I thought Pogba was a little unlucky with the red. It was a bizzare incident. Put his foot up to block the ball but his momentum took him into Bellerin, who’s body position btw was utterly bizzare for the challenge. I’d say you could run that same scenario a dozen times with the same Pogba challenge and it wouldn’t be a red. I don’t think Bellerin would be where he was.

jayo26

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Pogba only misses one game not three I thought?

No it was straight red definitely 3

adox

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Pogba only misses one game not three I thought?

Straight red is an automatic 3 game ban I’m pretty sure. One game is for a second yellow red.

Trigger

I see people were asking about maximus, pretty sure I recall him saying what he wouldn’t be posting as much when Jose took over as he dislikes him and that.. no entirely certain but I think he is still around the place and does have the occasional post..

Pro F pops in every now and then, maybe real life has tore him away from his computer. As for Flint, think he was banned.

Mars Bar

I think 3 if the reason for the red is deemed dangerous play. I'd say he's looking at 3 games alright.

Alf Veedersane

adox wrote: »

Oh and(I’ll be lambasted for this I’m sure but) I thought Pogba was a little unlucky with the red. It was a bizzare incident. Put his foot up to block the ball but his momentum took him into Bellerin, who’s body position btw was utterly bizzare for the challenge. I’d say you could run that same scenario a dozen times with the same Pogba challenge and it wouldn’t be a red. I don’t think Bellerin would be where he was.

Thought something similar. That said, I still think it would be hard for the ref to not give a red but I don't think it was intentional and probably not even reckless. But how it looked, it was only going to be red.

adox

adox wrote: »

I think Smalling has been as impressive as anyone at the back this season. There is no way I’d be shifting him out of the team for anyone.

Jones can’t be relied upon and I think it’s only a matter of time before Jose loses patience with him and moves him on.

Lindelof has looked pretty solid the last few games and he won’t get tested as much as he did today for a long time.

I know there’s a lot of love for Rojo in here but I just don’t trust him. Thought he was one of the ones at fault for the goal, stepping up try8ng to play offside instead of holding his ground.

Anyway I don’t think the CBS are the problem with us giving up a lot of chances. I still think it stems from the midfield set up and lack of cover they get.

Fair ****s to Shearer fro praising Utd so much. Would have been so easy to say how unlucky Arsenal were etc but he was having none of it.

Oh and(I’ll be lambasted for this I’m sure but) I thought Pogba was a little unlucky with the red. It was a bizzare incident. Put his foot up to block the ball but his momentum took him into Bellerin, who’s body position btw was utterly bizzare for the challenge. I’d say you could run that same scenario a dozen times with the same Pogba challenge and it wouldn’t be a red. I don’t think Bellerin would be where he was.

Bellerin has apparently posted something about it on twitter and now it's been deleted. Il try dig it out.

Liam McPoyle

The Pogba red was not deliberate but he was reckless, he had to go and he will get a rest.

This was the consummate Jeckyl and Hyde performance, irresistible in attack but defensively awful.

The amount of times the defenders sliced it when trying to clear was shocking.

DDG is iron man.

VW 1

scudzilla wrote:

Just came watching DDG

Did the pony tail not put you off!?

adox

adox wrote: »

Straight red is an automatic 3 game ban I’m pretty sure. One game is for a second yellow red.

Actually I think I’m wrong. It’s m pretty sure if you get sent off for denying a goal scoring opportunity that’s a 1 game ban so there may be different bans for different offenses.


Violent conduct and reckless endangerment(or whatever they call it)will what Pogba will be punished on and that’s definitely a thre game ban.

I think the club should appeal it.

niallo27

adox wrote: »

Straight red is an automatic 3 game ban I’m pretty sure. One game is for a second yellow red.

Might be another for the clapping going off the field as well.

adox

niallo27 wrote: »

Might be another for the clapping going off the field as well.

Doubt it. It wasn’t clear who he was clapping (although we all know it was most likely sarcastically at the ref) but I can easily see that being disputed and overturned if it becomes a thing.

niallo27

adox wrote: »

Doubt it. It wasn’t clear who he was clapping (although we all know it was most likely sarcastically at the ref) but I can easily see that being disputed and overturned if it becomes a thing.

Fa doesn't need proof to punish utd. I think he may well get another game.

adox

niallo27 wrote: »

Fa doesn't need proof to punish utd. I think he may well get another game.

Well I’m not surprised you think that.

Jayop

niallo27 wrote: »

Might be another for the clapping going off the field as well.

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