Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

adox

eigrod wrote: »

Know your football rules

Know that there are no rules in football. There are laws.

castletownman

Rashford with his fancy dan flicks and tricks here and there, and tendency to take too much out of the ball, is going to make him a future scapegoat for England's inevitable WC collapse. Sometimes the simple option is the most logical.

~Rebel~

Of course he’s onside - Blind played everyone onside. if being off the pitch suddenly made you not count, teams would use that all the time as a tactic.

Imagine free kicks in dangerous positions... hold your line as normal to stop attackers getting too close, but have 2 guys standing off the field, who aren’t playing anyone onside, but can get a run on the ball. It would make no sense... you don’t cease to exist cause you crossed the line.

duffman13

fyfe79 wrote: »

Offside surely? Kilbane seems to think because a Utd player is off the field, he's playing everyone on... is that right?

Or is it onside because the Moscow player is trying to avoid the ball (ie. not play it) even though it hits him?

Kilbane is right, its only if the player is off the pitch recieving treatment, ie with premission. Jaysis, im a referee lads, thank god that didnt happen when i was reffing Saturday

How Soon Is Now

Sundays gonna be great craic isn't it?

J. Marston

Bunch of pro footballers in the studio "What are the rules? Dunno."

Amazing insight.

Trigger

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Of course he’s onside - Blind played everyone onside. if being off the pitch suddenly made you not count, teams would use that all the time as a tactic.

Imagine free kicks in dangerous positions... hold your line as normal to stop attackers getting too close, but have 2 guys standing off the field, who aren’t playing anyone onside, but can get a run on the ball. It would make no sense... you don’t cease to exist cause you crossed the line.

It definitely used to be part of the offside law anywAys, must have been updated so since everyone saying he is on

Headshot

question

what result in tonights group A match would cause utd to finish 2nd?

Trigger

Headshot wrote: »

question

what result in tonights group A match would cause utd to finish 2nd?

Losing by 4-6 goals

How Soon Is Now

Headshot wrote: »

question

what result in tonights group A match would cause utd to finish 2nd?

Basil are 2 goals behind United at moment.

blueser

astradave wrote: »

It definitely used to be part of the offside law anywAys, must have been updated so since everyone saying he is on

I'm reading on a forum that if a player doesn't have the referee's permission to leave the field, he's still active. That being the case, nothing wrong with the goal. You can see the logic behind the rule/law. It stops defences simply stepping off the pitch to catch a striker offside.

sky88

If blind is deemed active then the cska player ahead of him is active no and then hes offside no?

adox

sky88 wrote: »

If blind is deemed active then the cska player ahead of him is active no and then hes offside no?

Hardly “active”though so a moot point.

Pogba is actually driving me bonkers tonight.

bangkok

J. Marston wrote: »

Bunch of pro footballers in the studio "What are the rules? Dunno."

Amazing insight.

Im actually surprised a lot on here thought he was offside

tinpib

sky88 wrote: »

If blind is deemed active then the cska player ahead of him is active no and then hes offside no?

If I understand what you mean then no, the CSKA player is active and not offside due to 2 United players ahead of him, De Gea and Blind.

bangkok

duffman13 wrote: »

Kilbane is right, its only if the player is off the pitch recieving treatment, ie with premission. Jaysis, im a referee lads, thank god that didnt happen when i was reffing Saturday

Sunday league i presume?? A lot of them refs dont have a clue of some of the easier laws of the game even!!

Father Hernandez

tinpib wrote: »

If I understand what you mean then no, the CSKA player is active and not offside due to 2 United players ahead of him, De Gea and Blind.

It's now been given as Vitinho's goal and not Dzagoev's even though it's clearly hit him.

That makes less sense.

adox

I feel sorry for Lukaku. Has had no service whatsoever.

Ugh weak

caviardreams

That ball from Shaw to Mata... Shaw has been superb.

xabi

bangkok wrote: »

Sunday league i presume?? A lot of them refs dont have a clue of some of the easier laws of the game even!!

Similar to your grasp of the English language. ;-)

Are Am Eye

You could nearly play Shaw the weekend. Young on the right.

How Soon Is Now

Are Am Eye wrote: »

You could nearly play Shaw the weekend. Young on the right.

Might as well sure. Getting nothing from the game anyway.

Esse85

Shaw has got half a stone to lose before he looks fit.

Hotblack Desiato

Under the old offside law (before all this "not interfering with play" crap) you used to see attackers running off the pitch before the ball was played forward, if they'd otherwise cause the whole attack to be ruled offside.

Another really clever pass by shaw to mata Jesus it makes me even more depressed with Valencia.

I'll also never warm to smalling he just.....

bangkok

Esse85 wrote: »

Shaw has got half a stone to lose before he looks fit.

Says yer man lying on the couch eating a bag of crisps

Trigger

blueser wrote: »

I'm reading on a forum that if a player doesn't have the referee's permission to leave the field, he's still active. That being the case, nothing wrong with the goal. You can see the logic behind the rule/law. It stops defences simply stepping off the pitch to catch a striker offside.

It definitely used to be that if you don’t go off deliberately you were deemed inactive and ineffective for offside as you had to be allowed back on by the ref or wait till the ball was cleared.. if you went off deliberately it was a yellow card offence..

I’ve no problem with the goal at all if the law has been changed tbf

blueser

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Under the old offside law (before all this "not interfering with play" crap) you used to see attackers running off the pitch before the ball was played forward, if they'd otherwise cause the whole attack to be ruled offside.

Apparently, this is the current law re. players off the pitch affecting offsides;

Never in doubt they are all great

adox

Beauty. Delighted for hm.

caviardreams

Big Rom's perseverance pays off. He has been excellent tonight, even leaving aside teh goal.

Esse85

bangkok wrote: »

Says yer man lying on the couch eating a bag of crisps

And a 6 pack of beer

Yesssjajajaja
Pogba
Lukakakuuuuuj

bangkok

Pure class from Pogba. Great finish as well

Brilliant from Rashford

Mars Bar

Haha! Get in

adox

Boom!!!!

Lovely bottoms

caviardreams

Oh Mata. Luxury player.

Lord TSC

Jesus lads, let me finish my post before you score again :P

Trigger

Class goal!

Yeshahakalama
Flashford

How Soon Is Now

Real shame Pogba is missing Sunday.
Really!

Bret Hart

That's more like it. Great finish.

Mars Bar

Mata's assist was a beauty

Trigger

Omfg amazing

GSPfan

Ah lads im loving this. The whole thing feels very nostalgic. Love Shaw in the team and love the 3412 formation.

wanderer100

Just what we needed!! Brilliant

bangkok

Mata has been excellent again. Lighweight me arse

Are Am Eye

Esse85 wrote: »

Shaw has got half a stone to lose before he looks fit.

Louis?