Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

jimmytwotimes 2013

Celtic wud be nice as this has a Europa League feel to it so far

ElChe32

Moscow..ughh

jimmytwotimes 2013

Group as handy as you could have realistically hoped for. The trip to Moscow not ideal but the other away trips very close.

S.M.B.

Better not be travelling to Moscow in Round 4 or 6.

Julez

S.M.B. wrote: »

Better not be travelling to Moscow in Round 4 or 6.

When do we find out fixtures?

Lithium93_

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Celtic wud be nice as this has a Europa League feel to it so far

I certainly don't envy Celtic at all, Bayern & PSG, oomph.

Lithium93_

Julez wrote: »

When do we find out fixtures?

Match week 1 is September 12th & 13th

wanderer100

Moscow isn't great but I don't think we can complain with that group. Should easily be top of that tbf

thelad95

Three historical banana skins for us. I think we're far further along in our development now and should really be qualified with a round to spare.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I certainly don't envy Celtic at all, Bayern & PSG, oomph.

Tough alright. Spurs got rode too. Still though Celtic won't win it so might as well get a few big European nights.

(Before anyone says it, I know United won't be winning it either)

PhlegmyMoses

thelad95 wrote: »

Three historical banana skins for us. I think we're far further along in our development now and should really be qualified with a round to spare.

Have we ever lost to any of those teams more than twice? Wouldn't uite call them banana skins.

Lithium93_

Match Days are as follows

Match Day 1
12–13 September,

Match Day 2
26–27 September,

Match Day 3
17–18 October,

Match Day 4
31 October – 1 November,

Match Day 5
21–22 November,

Match Day 6
5–6 December 2017

J. Marston

Terribly boring group.

Billy86

beakerjoe wrote: »

Ronaldo with a speech which contradicts everything he said in the transfer window :rolleyes:

Ronaldo you loveable scamp!

What did Ronaldo himself say in the transfer window?

J. Marston

J. Marston wrote: »

Terribly boring group.

Yep, I wanted some bigger teams.

Lithium93_

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Tough alright. Spurs got rode too. Still though Celtic won't win it so might as well get a few big European nights.

(Before anyone says it, I know United won't be winning it either)

Tough is an understatement, Europa League for them before a ball has been kicked :pac:

S.M.B.

Julez wrote: »

When do we find out fixtures?

Not sure, both Manchester and Moscow teams are are in separate red/blue pots.

Is there any issue with playing CL games in Manchester/Moscow on consecutive nights?

I'm assuming this is the type stuff that needs to be sorted out before the actual fixtures gets released.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Tough is an understatement, Europa League for them before a ball has been kicked :pac:

https://twitter.com/StephanieRoche9/status/900761048403374080

TheDoctor

Odds on Spurs to win the Europa?

Spurs V Arsenal in the knockout stages

Lithium93_

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/StephanieRoche9/status/900761048403374080

I don't Apoel may have something to say about that..

thelad95

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Have we ever lost to any of those teams more than twice? Wouldn't uite call them banana skins.

I don't really have very fond memories of the last few times we shared groups with Benfica and Basel but as I said that's all well in the past and all things told we should top this at a canter.

S.M.B.

Why is everyone writing off Spurs? Just for the sneer?

beakerjoe

Spurs have a tough group, but if they can get the Wembley jinx off them, they are good enough to go far. I wouldnt bet against them taking points off anyone. They play suberb football.

TheDoctor

Spurs could do Dortmund, don't things are right over there.

DARK-KNIGHT

#OURYEAR??? :pac:

TheDoctor

Fixtures should be out in the next hour or so.

Lord TSC

That's a brilliant group. We should be topping that group easily enough if we have any attention of being considered a top tier team. Screw "boring", I'll take that group every day or the week.

secman

Wonder who Costa will be playing for in the Chelsea -Athletico ties ??
Happy with our Group, just the one long haul to Russia.

Lord TSC

secman wrote: »

Wonder who Costa will be playing for in the Chelsea -Athletico ties ??
Happy with our Group, just the one long haul to Russia.

Chelsea, surely. A.Madrid won't get any transfers this side of the matches, right :S

Edit. Or neither. Won't be Madrid though

caviardreams

We always seem to get CSKA!

Very happy with that overall though - hopefully the trip to Moscow is at a good time PL-wise though.

Do feel sorry for Celtic though - they always seem to get a very tough draw.

JamboMac

Groups E and G seem to be very balanced and hard to pick the 2 that will go through.

bangkok

Great draw in the league cup. Fantastic draw today in champions league. Top of the league. Happy days

NUTZZ

EDIT: Wrong fixture dates

Rekop dog

Was there not a year recentish when United finished behind Benfica and Basel after laughing at the ease of it originally?

bangkok

Deleted User wrote: »

That Moscow trip is of course placed between the Spurs and Chelsea matches. The flight is about 5 hours each way, that'll be a hoor of a week for the team.

I hope they send the reserve team to moscow away

Headshot

im a bit late to party but what a bloody great group we are in

Mitch Connor

Rekop dog wrote: »

Was there not a year recentish when United finished behind Benfica and Basel after laughing at the ease of it originally?

Yes.

It could be ANY 3 other teams in the group and it could go tits up for us. On paper it is as easy a draw we could hope for and commenting on it in such terms is totally normal. Of course it may prove that United screw it up - you only have to look at our relative stuggles in the EL group last season but that fact we finished behind these two sides previously is basically irrelevant. We used to finish ahead of every side in the league quite regularly - that doesn't mean we will do it this season.

v3ttel

Rekop dog wrote: »

Was there not a year recentish when United finished behind Benfica and Basel after laughing at the ease of it originally?

2012 I think, along with a Romanian team.

I'm not sure anyone is laughing at the ease of the group. On paper, it's one of the better draws we could have hoped for. I think the response from Lord TSC is spot on. If we've any intention of being a top tier side and doing well, we need to be topping that group with the lack of big hitters from Pot 1 & Pot 3 (with all due respect to Benfica, they are no Real Madrid). I would much rather Benfica and Basel, over Real (et al) and Napoli/Roma.

Lord TSC wrote: »

That's a brilliant group. We should be topping that group easily enough if we have any attention of being considered a top tier team. Screw "boring", I'll take that group every day or the week.

Rekop dog

Ah I know I was mainly joking, funny coincidence though. Always like Basel though, they seem to always have a big turnover of players but come back with a good brand of football every year.

deaddonkey15

That's a great draw for United. Only negative is perhaps CSKA as the 4th seeds. Still, no excuses for not topping that group.

Father Hernandez

Read this on Reddit and found it interesting, glad we didn't draw Qarabag

If Man United draw Qarabag in CL, Mkhi is not allowed to travel to the away leg.
While it's just a small chance, I thought it's an interesting point. Ethnic Armenians, or those with Armenian surnames are not allowed in Azerbaijan. Additionally, anyone who has gone to the disputed region between Armenia and Azerbaijan is considerate a criminal in Az.
I recall a Europa game several years back that BVB played against an Azeri side, Mkhi didn't travel with the team, but played the home leg.

S.M.B.

UNITED'S FIXTURE DATES
Tuesday 12 September: United v Basel
Wednesday 27 September: CSKA Moscow v United
Wednesday 18 October: Benfica v United
Tuesday 31 October: United v Benfica
Wednesday 22 November: Basel v United
Tuesday 5 December: United v CSKA Moscow

Dodged a few bullets

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2017/Aug/Manchester-United-discover-UEFA-Champions-League-group-opponents.aspx

NUTZZ

jayo26

Just noticed pool are in Moscow on the Tuesday and we are there in Wednesday..... should be fun.

Strawberry HillBilly

NUTZZ wrote: »

Hopefully qualification wrapped up before the last round. Ugh

Jayop

Strawberry HillBilly wrote: »

Hopefully qualification wrapped up before the last round. Ugh

At least it's at home so not too bad.

Jayop

We were 14/1 before the draw, now down to 11/1.

posturingpat

Jayop wrote: »

We were 14/1 before the draw, now down to 11/1.

Ridiculous price. Should be 20/1 at least. No point getting carried away.

Lord TSC

Times saying that Ibras wage has dropped from 350k a week to 125k.

I'd presume there'd be additional pay as you play bonuses too.

Jayop

posturingpat wrote: »

Ridiculous price. Should be 20/1 at least. No point getting carried away.

Yeah I was really surprised by the betting. We're 5th favourites for it.

Real 7/2
Barca, PSG & Bayern 7/1
City & United 11/1
Juve 14
Chelsea 16
Athletico & Liverpool 20
Spurs 40

In fairness, bar Juve and Chelsea who else should be shorter prices than us? We've a handy group that we should by rights go through in first and then a bit of luck in the last 16 and we're away with it.

Impossible to look past Real, and if you managed to get them at anything outside 4/1 it's a great bet.