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Why would anyone give away good tips.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭vandriver


    Kempton
    09.03.2019
    18:30 Music Man 21.0 wh
    So,how was the last year for you?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    The last year has been bang on expected results. However I have been advised that I need to show that I am putting these horse racing tips in the public domain with no associated charge or any expectation of profit or financial reward. Any one who works in a tax related profession will understand why this is important :)
    So where were we? Ah yes .... making money where so many people think it cant be done :)

    Here's one for today

    Warwick
    10.03.2019
    17:30 Edwardstone 5.0 365, sky


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Naas
    10.03.2019
    16:20 The Big Lense 13.0 with coral and sporting bet


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Naas
    10.03.2019
    16:20" Laverteen 26.0 bet365


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Warwick
    10.03.2019
    16:30 Zee Man 34.0 ladbrokes


  • Registered Users Posts: 324 ✭✭spindex


    Thanks for coming back. You made me quite a bit of money last year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham
    12.03.2019
    15:30 Brain Power 34.0 bet365


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham
    12.03.2019
    16:10 Momella 34.0 365


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham
    12.03.2019
    16:10 Roksana 11.0


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham
    12.03.2019
    15:30 Global Citizen 67.0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 612 ✭✭✭KevinCavan


    Because they are worthless 99% of the time


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    @kevinCavan
    I wasnt bothered keeping track of returns up to this point ( I did for the first 200 or 300 ) but seems you have done this for me :)
    So just quickly can you tell me
    How many bets I have posted ie total stake ( as I only ever deal in LSP we will say 2pts staked for each tip )
    Returns in total points won.
    And hence total profit / loss?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham
    15:30 Verdana Blue 41.0 Paddy


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    15:30 Melon 19.0 b365


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham

    15:30 Sharjah 21.0 b365


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    16:10 Jester Jet 41.0 bet365


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    16:10 Cap Soleil 34.0 365


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    16:10 Lady Buttons 21.0 b365


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham
    12.03.2019
    16:10 Good Thyne Tara 41.0 365


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham
    13.03.2019
    15:30 Politologue 26.0

    Early one for tomorrow

    Few pts profit today .. KevinCavan is going to keep a running tally of profit/loss. Good man Kevin :) I couldnt be arsed going back in time to do so with what I put on this thread as I keep my own records. Anyways I could only give you a rough estimate within +/- 3 or 4 % of what actual profit would be but Kevin sounds like the kind of punter who keeps meticulous records and we know this is key to beiing aa successful gambler.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham
    13.03.2019
    15:30 Castlegrace Paddy 34.0 b365


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham
    13.03.2019
    15:30 Sceau Royal 17.0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Jewelers


    bit like throwing darts into an elephants hole one will stick


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Have had this one before. That these are just random picks and you can't possibly make money backing 4 or 5 horses in same race. But I still await an explanation of how the luck just keeps on going. Pushing towards 500 tips I estimate on this thread and profit approx 20%. All tips are time stamped but I doubt any amatuer punter will bother his arse to tot them up. Going into a bookie on a sat morn with your £20 to back what you spent 5 min researching is far easier. I eagerly await the results of the person who spends the 3 or 4 hours it will take to tally up results so far.
    Still though no one has topped the PM I got saying I would be showing a loss if it wasnt for the few big odds winners I had. Go figure :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 612 ✭✭✭KevinCavan


    @kevinCavan
    I wasnt bothered keeping track of returns up to this point ( I did for the first 200 or 300 ) but seems you have done this for me :)
    So just quickly can you tell me
    How many bets I have posted ie total stake ( as I only ever deal in LSP we will say 2pts staked for each tip )
    Returns in total points won.
    And hence total profit / loss?

    Sorry man didn’t aim my comment at you specifically and haven’t been following ur tips. What I meant was that in general, tips are worthless.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Agree. "Any tips for cheltenham" is a regular request I get from ones who know what I do for a living. I rarely reply yes because I know any tip I give them will cost them money, because they can never comprehend how the price is everything. I attempted to make it clear at the start of this thread that you had to be on these nags within a max of 20 min of me posting them ( Thats why I put lot of them on twitter ) ... even if the price is still available because these are value bets. If I say My Little pony is 34.0 at 14:05 it means all the exchange market parameters are indicating this horse is about to steam. If however 30 min later he hasnt moved then that 34.0 is most likely no longer a good bet. It is this beating the starting price too often is what kills lot of accounts for friends of mine :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham
    15:30 Castlegrace Paddy 34.0 Bet365
    This race is not about the winner, the money is in bagging a big price placer :)

    And Rem 365 are paying 1/4 the odds, most others are 1/5 the odds. If you doing this for fun then that makes no difference but if your stake has up to three 0s on the end of it then this makes a huge difference


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    Cheltenham
    15:30 Castlegrace Paddy 34.0 Bet365
    This race is not about the winner, the money is in bagging a big price placer :)

    And Rem 365 are paying 1/4 the odds, most others are 1/5 the odds. If you doing this for fun then that makes no difference but if your stake has up to three 0s on the end of it then this makes a huge difference

    What’s your Twitter


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    That should have said I used to tweet them. And kept a running total showing between 20 and 30% but too many knobs wondering why every horse not winning so I stopped. This forum seems to attract a more salt of the earth person.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham
    13.03.2019
    15:30 Politologue 26.0


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    Any good value EWs for today


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham
    13.03.2019
    15:30 Hells Kitchen 41.0 bet 365


    188 have him at 51.0, ok if you only doing £5 or £10 but dont wave a £100 at them and expect them to play ball :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    PS ... Anything I post is assumed to be taken EW.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    For anyone who has a Paddy, this 3:30 is a no brainer. Money back if fav wins and at a price of 1.40 this is a very likely outcome. So jumping on these high odds with paddy is almost risk free. Limit of £10 I think though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    "Cheltenham
    13.03.2019
    14:10" Now Mcginty 34.0


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham
    13.03.2019
    14:10 Drovers Lane 29.0 b365


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    "Cheltenham

    14:10 Drovers Lane 29.0 365

    17:30" The Glancing Queen 23.0 365


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham

    15:30 Gods Own 34.0 bet365


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Cheltenham

    15:30 Politologue is good at 23.0 bet365


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭crushproof


    Cheltenham

    15:30 Politologue is good at 23.0 bet365

    Followed this, close but no cigar!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Prob break even or small loss to level stakes today .. onwards and upwards.

    Tomorrow ... Early bird

    14:10 Tobefair 67.0 Bet365

    As I not a big fan of betting too far in advance, this one comes with a health warning for your betting account. Should he win then its bye bye account if you got anymore than £2 ew on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Prob break even or small loss to level stakes today .. onwards and upwards.

    Tomorrow ... Early bird

    14:10 Tobefair 67.0 Bet365

    As I not a big fan of betting too far in advance, this one comes with a health warning for your betting account. Should he win then its bye bye account if you got anymore than £2 ew on him.

    Why's that. What do the betting companies think this achieves? Is it wise to have multiple betting a/cs and putting on multiple bets rather than one big bet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    You bet your ass it is in the bookies favor to limit or ban you if they think you getting the drop on them. Who can blame them. They have a business to run and need to make profit.

    So if you do this as anything more than a hobby then to get decent money on ye need to get friends involved who will help you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Prob break even or small loss to level stakes today .. onwards and upwards.

    Tomorrow ... Early bird

    14:10 Tobefair 67.0 Bet365

    As I not a big fan of betting too far in advance, this one comes with a health warning for your betting account. Should he win then its bye bye account if you got anymore than £2 ew on him.

    It was close!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭razorhead


    Prob break even or small loss to level stakes today .. onwards and upwards.

    Tomorrow ... Early bird

    14:10 Tobefair 67.0 Bet365

    As I not a big fan of betting too far in advance, this one comes with a health warning for your betting account. Should he win then its bye bye account if you got anymore than £2 ew on him.

    Ouch, great call Mayoman


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭crushproof


    Some man Mayoman. Went each way and had 70/1 on Betdaq for the win! So close but fantastic shout. Few quid won on the place


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    Asked 365 if they would pay out as winner since he came so close but they declined :(


    Anyways, poor pickings today but this is the best of whats left


    Cheltenham

    16:50 Concertista 67.0


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭mayoman1973


    wouldnt reccomend doing any of these on the nose .... the value is in the place. Win only will at best make you maybe 1 or 2% profit, place makes 35 - 40%. So cause you gotta take the fleas with the dog and have to take the win along with the place in an e/w bet over all the % profit should be about 15-20%, but all that juice comes from the place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭Car99


    Asked 365 if they would pay out as winner since he came so close but they declined :(


    Anyways, poor pickings today but this is the best of whats left


    Cheltenham

    16:50 Concertista 67.0

    That was harsh! Good pick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭crushproof


    Car99 wrote: »
    That was harsh! Good pick.

    Got placed bet at 18/1, Mayoman is owed many a drink!


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