Anti-vaxxers

Pinch Flat

Seth Brundle wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ConMend/status/1336249743182327808

This is the kind of lunacy that's spreading like wildfire through twitter, Facebook and other social media platforms. It's quite worrying really. If you try to engage you're branded a sheep.

CramCycle

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Seth Brundle wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ConMend/status/1336249743182327808

This is the kind of lunacy that's spreading like wildfire through twitter, Facebook and other social media platforms. It's quite worrying really. If you try to engage you're branded a sheep.

I'm pretty sure he is joking

Seth Brundle

Here's the priority list for people to be given the new vaccine.
I don't see anything about people being forced to take it given the predictions by the Anti-Microsoft 5G Serum muppets.

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1336286638784344065

silliussoddius

martingriff

CramCycle wrote: »

Pinch Flat wrote: »

I'm pretty sure he is joking

I say he is but with all the crap on about COVID people could taake anything to heart

Brian?

I see 2 people have had allergic reactions to the vaccine in the UK.

You can almost smell the smug vindication from anti vaxxers coming over the horizon.

Their arguments will be absolute nonsense as usual of course.

CramCycle

Brian? wrote: »

I see 2 people have had allergic reactions to the vaccine in the UK.

You can almost smell the smug vindication from anti vaxxers coming over the horizon.

Their arguments will be absolute nonsense as usual of course.

Most people will have reactions though, that's quite normal, in fact the reactions ot the pfizer vaccine are quite intense for 24 hours for quite a few people. I am pretty sure this has been reported on in the US already.

ancapailldorcha

Brian? wrote: »

I see 2 people have had allergic reactions to the vaccine in the UK.

You can almost smell the smug vindication from anti vaxxers coming over the horizon.

Their arguments will be absolute nonsense as usual of course.

True, but they'd probably be happier if those were two deaths rather than just allergic reactions.

ancapailldorcha

CramCycle wrote: »

Most people will have reactions though, that's quite normal, in fact the reactions ot the pfizer vaccine are quite intense for 24 hours for quite a few people. I am pretty sure this has been reported on in the US already.

I've worked in clinical trials. The sheer, obscene amount of paperwork involved and taken for each study participant means that everything is recorded. If someone had a dodgy takeaway and got food poisoning, the company would insist on recording the symptoms anyway to cover themselves just in case.

ceegee

CramCycle wrote: »

Most people will have reactions though, that's quite normal, in fact the reactions ot the pfizer vaccine are quite intense for 24 hours for quite a few people. I am pretty sure this has been reported on in the US already.

Adverse effects were almost all mild (no interference with activity) or moderate (some interference with activity). Only around 1% or less of people reported severe adverse effects (prevents daily activity) for most of the symptoms.
For example: Pain
18-55yrs: mild 51.1%, moderate 31% severe 1%
Over 55: mild: 55.9% moderate 15% severe 0.2%

Brian?

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

True, but they'd probably be happier if those were two deaths rather than just allergic reactions.

If people die they won't be able to post they'll be in such a state of rapture.

mcmoustache

bocaman wrote: »

Any anti-vaxxers I've encountered in Ireland are far right wing nuts. Personally I consider them rather selfish individuals.

I've come across a fair few types. Mostly Freemen and far right but I've also come across the hippy dippy types who are definitely not far right. My guess is that there's a huge industry targeting women on facebook with "Wellness" nonsense. If a person has the kind of mind that can believe in homeopathy, they are absolutely capable of believing that vaccines cause autism or any old rubbish for that matter.

shameless liberal

HSE running a survey on vaccine and attitudes here.

If you've a few mins, may as well give them some data!

https://survey.euro.confirmit.com/wix/4/p866991630334.aspx?TD=7

silliussoddius

mcmoustache wrote: »

I've come across a fair few types. Mostly Freemen and far right but I've also come across the hippy dippy types who are definitely not far right. My guess is that there's a huge industry targeting women on facebook with "Wellness" nonsense. If a person has the kind of mind that can believe in homeopathy, they are absolutely capable of believing that vaccines cause autism or any old rubbish for that matter.

These people tend to be naturalistic fetishists or anti corporate types.

Seth Brundle

Telegraph columnist Allison Pearson does a marvellous U-turn in her views on Covid...
https://twitter.com/allisonpearson/status/1338585146736455681

https://twitter.com/allisonpearson/status/1338590216697880576

Seth Brundle

https://twitter.com/CMacCoille/status/1338908097167888385

sbsquarepants

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Telegraph columnist Allison Pearson does a marvellous U-turn in her views on Covid...
https://twitter.com/allisonpearson/status/1338585146736455681

https://twitter.com/allisonpearson/status/1338590216697880576

Jaysus that must have been an eventful 20 minutes Allison!:D

Igotadose

Seth Brundle wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CMacCoille/status/1338908097167888385

They might've been in Tralee a day or two ago. Apparently it's Gemma O'Doherty.

silliussoddius

Seth Brundle wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CMacCoille/status/1338908097167888385

How retro

paul71

Igotadose wrote: »

They might've been in Tralee a day or two ago. Apparently it's Gemma O'Doherty.

She really is past the stage of mental health committal, a girl I worked with told me Gemma was screaming at people who tried walking past her in Dundrum before the General election. Off the wall Bats**t crazy is she!

Annasopra

mcmoustache wrote: »

I've come across a fair few types. Mostly Freemen and far right but I've also come across the hippy dippy types who are definitely not far right. My guess is that there's a huge industry targeting women on facebook with "Wellness" nonsense. If a person has the kind of mind that can believe in homeopathy, they are absolutely capable of believing that vaccines cause autism or any old rubbish for that matter.

Unfortunately there is now a big crossover between the far right and new age wellness types

Capt'n Midnight

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

The both sides fallacy.

One "side" at least has some data while the other is spreading nonsense from crackpots. There is a world of difference between the two and simply saying there's not enough data isn't good enough without specifying what the minimum should be or at least what would satisfy you.

Capt'n Midnight

Rupert Murdoch received a dose of the COVID-19 vaccine this week

A convoy of Range Rovers delivered the 89-year-old billionaire to a dedicated vaccine centre in Henley, Oxfordshire, where normal hours are understood to have been extended at the last minute.

Murdoch controlled media include News Corp, Fox , FM104, LMFM, Q102, The Sun, The Times, The Sunday Times, New York Post , Wall Street Journal, Fox News etc.

Black Swan

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Anti-vaxxer views appear to be very popular on social media where statements like "big pharma conspiracy" are common. With all the scientific evidence available, there are still a growing number of anti vaxxers. Be interested in peoples views on this.

Across the pond conspiracy theories have become increasing popular, especially since the 3 November elections. The more wildly outlandish, the wider the spread. Do not bother showing objective evidence, just claim you have it; or say everyone knows. Play on between group differences and dislikes, and plenty will follow. It appears hard for many to separate politics from science.

Big Gerry

I wonder is this nurse a conspiracy theorist ?

Sardonicat

Big Gerry wrote: »

I wonder is this nurse a conspiracy theorist ?

No, she had a fairly common response to skin punctures that causes her blood pressure to drop and subsequently faint. If you actually watched the video, you'd know that.

paul71

Sardonicat wrote: »

No, she had a fairly common response to skin punctures that causes her blood pressure to drop and subsequently faint. If you actually watched the video, you'd know that.

A very common reaction, I have it, I pass out every time I give blood or if I need to have a blood test done.

But big gerry has a wealth of medical knowledge he knows better than them high fuluten doctors with their fancy degrees and educumacations.

ancapailldorcha

Big Gerry wrote: »

I wonder is this nurse a conspiracy theorist ?

She has a medical condition which causes her to faint as a result of experiencing pain. You're not the first person to try dump this nonsense here.

ancapailldorcha

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

She has a medical condition which causes her to faint as a result of experiencing pain. You're not the first person to try dump this nonsense here.

Friend works as a tattooist and also does piercings. People fainting on getting pierced, and in some cases tattooed, is the reason they have people lying down when they do them where possible.

The usual are going to try grasping at as many straws as possible and display their usual ignorance, nothing new there.

Big Gerry

Sardonicat wrote: »

No, she had a fairly common response to skin punctures that causes her blood pressure to drop and subsequently faint. If you actually watched the video, you'd know that.

You think as a nurse she would be use to getting vaccines.


If she has a problem with fainting then she should not be working in such a responsible job were peoples lives are on the line.