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Camper conversion

Happy.camper · 2017-08-28 16:17:04

Hi all, just starting my first camper conversion. I bought a transit minibus thinking it would be easier to convert since it has windows, plus the fact the vrt would already have been paid. My concerns are with the fixed cooking facilities...does this mean I can screw down a gas camping cooker to a table top to qualify.…

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#32 09-09-2017 2:29pm
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Sir Liamalot wrote: »

Tristan is the only certified MH gas installer I know of.

I note that the cert was issued in NI - presumably that is valid here? Reason I ask is I have a mate (though over in the UK) who is a gas fitter, he does mostly domestic work fitting boilers, but has recently done his LPG qualifications. Which might come in handy in the future if I do another conversion and need him to check out and certify my work.

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#33 09-09-2017 3:15pm
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It's an application appropriate skillset.
I reckon a RGI is all you need for the government.

I'd put more faith in an expert than a qualification. Same reason I wouldn't advocate auto-electric and habitation extra low voltage wiring by a sparks who only does houses.

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#34 10-09-2017 2:04am
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Sir Liamalot wrote:

I'd put more faith in an expert than a qualification. Same reason I wouldn't advocate auto-electric and habitation extra low voltage wiring by a sparks who only does houses.

I would agree on terms of optimal design/installation but not safety. I.e. I don't think anything done would be unsafe, although likely a better job could do be done

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#35 10-09-2017 8:34am
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Shoog wrote: »

In fact when I went and found the guidance it described the exact specifications of the copper to be used, and I think it also discussed the specs of steel.

Thanks for that Shoog, any links to said guidance?

So who are people generally getting an this to do the work and are SQIs happy to sign this off?

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#36 10-09-2017 8:49am
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air wrote: »

Thanks for that Shoog, any links to said guidance?

So who are people generally getting an this to do the work and are SQIs happy to sign this off?

I cannot find the guidance notes, but they are the ones that were issued to gas fitters in Ireland. Its fairly much a carbon copy of the UK guidance notes.

SQI can be very picky or very relaxed. I spoke to a few before choosing mine and his inspection boiled down to a box ticking exercise. One other I tried was going to insist on crash test certs for everything that was fitted - which was ridiculous. The one I chose in the end would have only looked for the gas fitters cert to pass it - he was not going to inspect anything to do with the gas himself. I could not have got my original gas installation passed because I under-specified the drop out hole and couldn't increase it or move the gas locker. I ripped it out and got an meths stove, no need for a gas cert and the SQI had no issues with it.

Once you have the SQI approval the revenue are fairly much obliged to pass it for VRT - but that doesn't means that anyone has to insure it for you.

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#37 10-09-2017 11:27am
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You don't need a gas cert for a conversion, the smev job we put into the one endidncame with copper pipe and a rubber hose.

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#38 10-09-2017 12:17pm
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Simona1986 wrote: »

I don't think anything done would be unsafe, although likely a better job could do be done

That's exactly my point.

Similarly hence all coach built habitation wiring is safe and doesn't work very well.
I'll put the violin down as soon as I see a split charge system on a stock vehicle on at least 16mm² with a larger than 20A fuse and a stock mains charger that gets a battery to SG 1.275 :rolleyes:

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#39 10-09-2017 12:26pm
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colm_mcm wrote: »

You don't need a gas cert for a conversion, the smev job we put into the one endidncame with copper pipe and a rubber hose.

If a SQI doesn't insist on a gas cert, he will not remain a SQI for long. It is now the law that all gas installations are certified and it is the main responsibility of the SQI to ensure that the vehicle is complient with legislation.
Also try getting Dolmen or Stewarts to insure you if you haven't got that magic gas cert.

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#40 10-09-2017 6:13pm
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Maybe I'm wrong, we got an RGI to do ours, but I don't remember there being a cert.

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#41 10-09-2017 8:46pm
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Shoog wrote:

If a SQI doesn't insist on a gas cert, he will not remain a SQI for long. It is now the law that all gas installations are certified and it is the main responsibility of the SQI to ensure that the vehicle is complient with legislation. Also try getting Dolmen or Stewarts to insure you if you haven't got that magic gas cert.

Is there a van specific cert or is an rgi installation all you need?

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