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Why do so may Irish people begin sentences with ...

  • 31-08-2017 9:55pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,263 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    'Look ... ' and 'Listen ...'

    I find this very patronising. As if the person being spoken to is not listening or paying attention.

    Chief culprits? Mainly sports people as it happens. Roy Keane. Aiden O''Brien. And every second GAA player that you hear .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Click bait threads are a whole lot worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Why do so many boardsies start threads with clickbait titles?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭brianomc


    Look....at the end of the day........it is what it is........you know that way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,263 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Click bait threads are a whole lot worse.


    To be perfectly honest with you it is only now that I know what clickbait means. I did that because I thought that the thread title wouldn't fit in. That's how little I know. I will try and change that if I am able. Apologies for that as it annoys me too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    bobbyss wrote: »
    To be perfectly honest with you it is only now that I know what clickbait means. I did that because I thought that the thread title wouldn't fit in. That's how little I know. I will try and change that if I am able. Apologies for that as it annoys me too!

    Listen, it will be grand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭dok_golf


    Why do so many start sentences with "so.............."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭blackbox


    "Listen" - from Irish "Eistigí"

    Colloquial.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,263 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Tried to change it but on my phone in edit it only let's me change the post not the title. Maybe on a computer it may allow me. Fkcu. I am more annoyed at that than people beginning sentences with Look and Listen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    If "look" and "listen" bother OP there must be alot more. The only solution I can think of is to get it all translated to another language


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,750 ✭✭✭degsie


    Look-it, it'll be grand, right?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Well....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭Benjamin Buttons


    The first sportspeople I heard starting sentences with 'Look', when being interviewed, were Australian cricketers. That was at least ten years ago, so how that particular locution travelled from Tasmania to Thurles is anyone's guess.
    Ozmosis perhaps!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,157 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    According to The retired mountjoy governor lonergan most inmates say 'are you listening' all the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,263 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    feargale wrote:
    If "look" and "listen" bother OP there must be alot more. The only solution I can think of is to get it all translated to another language


    It's not the actual words but the mentality behind it, ie I am a voice of authority so really focus on what I am saying because it's really more important than what you have to say. Am disappointed Aiden O' Brien used 'Listen' a lot as he really is someone I admire.

    It's strange but I don't hear British people use this so readily.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 119 ✭✭mezzz


    d'ya know that kinda way


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Tried to change it but on my phone in edit it only let's me change the post not the title. Maybe on a computer it may allow me. Fkcu. I am more annoyed at that than people beginning sentences with Look and Listen.

    Look, we are where we are now. However, going forward you can remedy the thread title problem by thinking outside the box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Look, we are where we are now. However, going forward you can remedy the thread title problem by thinking outside the box.

    No.Take a quantum leap through a window of opportunity. This thread could initiate a sea change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,518 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Stop. Look. Listen.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    All right stop, Collaborate and listen 
    Ice is back with my brand new invention…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,263 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Well going forward I must improve my posting skills set. Perhaps some blue cloud thinking is needed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭franglan


    I lived abroad for a number of years. Main thing I've noticed since coming back is Irish people (particularly in a business context) starting sentences with "I suppose" wouldn't fill you with confidence would it?! You wouldn't trust a doctor who said "I suppose" you have cancer....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,193 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    People starting sentences with "Whatchu call it..." does my head in too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    I distest people saying "Going forward"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    I'd only someone had of started a sentence with "Look, Listen," maybe poor Jimmy wouldn't have been hit by that bus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,089 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    franglan wrote: »
    I lived abroad for a number of years. Main thing I've noticed since coming back is Irish people (particularly in a business context) starting sentences with "I suppose" wouldn't fill you with confidence would it?! You wouldn't trust a doctor who said "I suppose" you have cancer....

    Post colonial distress disorder. They all have low self esteem due to it, so don't have confidence in their own knowledge opinions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    bobbyss wrote: »
    'Look ... ' and 'Listen ...'

    I find this very patronising. As if the person being spoken to is not listening or paying attention.

    So sensitive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    It doesn't mean someone is commanding you to listen. It is a non word that is used to set the tone of what follows.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    blackbox wrote: »
    "Listen" - from Irish "Eistigí"

    Colloquial.

    .

    Depends on the age group and where they're from- the American 'Yo!' is becomming remarkably popular too.........

    The only use I've ever seen of 'Éistigí' was from a teacher- seems to be a perenial favourite with them.........

    Another popular one is 'Hoy!- you!' and its variants.........

    Or- indeed- there is the good old- give them a thump to get their attention and then tell them what you want to tell them (and hope, if they thump you back, it doesn't hurt too much...........) Mind you- this variant is probably what starts a lot of fights after some alcohol has been consumed.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    bobbyss wrote: »
    'Look ... ' and 'Listen ...'

    I find this very patronising. As if the person being spoken to is not listening or paying attention.

    Chief culprits? Mainly sports people as it happens. Roy Keane. Aiden O''Brien. And every second GAA player that you hear .

    Why do a lot of people think these (and others) are only Irish traits? And I despise the "Only in Ireland..." brigade. The stuff they describe probably happens the world over, or at least in the western world.

    We're not the only ones to do it, though (which backs up my argument). I was watching a programme or film recently where something in particular had happened, and one of the characters said "Only in Oxford!". How's that for specific?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Estrellita


    bobbyss wrote: »
    'Look ... ' and 'Listen ...'
    I find this very patronising. As if the person being spoken to is not listening or paying attention.

    It can be patronising I think, its all about the tone in how it's said. Sometimes it's casually thrown in of course. But if that 'look' or 'listen' at the start of the sentence is said in a way that is bordering on belittling, there's no point finishing it. I'd be already trying to think of different ways of killing you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    I hate it when people say "Listen".....and then Fart!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    bobbyss wrote: »
    To be perfectly honest with you it is only now that I know what clickbait means. I did that because I thought that the thread title wouldn't fit in. That's how little I know. I will try and change that if I am able. Apologies for that as it annoys me too!

    'To be perfectly honest with you...'

    Straight away I know that they are going to lie through their teeth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,170 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Actually.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Post colonial distress disorder. They all have low self esteem due to it, so don't have confidence in their own knowledge opinions.

    Love the way 'post-colonialism' is an explanation for everything, as if the British administration packed up 2 or 3 years ago. It's only been almost a century...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Love the way 'post-colonialism' is an explanation for everything, as if the British administration packed up 2 or 3 years ago. It's only been almost a century...

    Its more an issue in some other countries- where its trotted out pretty much on a daily basis in the media- such as Australia and New Zealand (not to mention the staggering animosity between the pair- which is a whole other story).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭franglan


    Its more an issue in some other countries- where its trotted out pretty much on a daily basis in the media- such as Australia and New Zealand (not to mention the staggering animosity between the pair- which is a whole other story).

    I suppose you are both right....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    brianomc wrote: »
    Look....at the end of the day........it is what it is........you know that way

    But having said that, it is what it is, going forward.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    IT is very common to hear Australians start a sentence with "look"...I would think it's more commonplace there than here to be honest


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    "But in fairness"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Maggie thatcher used both a lot.


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Alexa Gentle Jack


    Ah sure lookit


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    You hear it on the TV a lot from people doing interviews on the spot on live TV. Mainly GAA sports people as it happens. But they just want to do the actual sport they are involved in and probably don't enjoy or want to do these interviews afterwards. Maybe they feel uncomfortable by being forced to do this sort of braindead media-noise $hite, just to fill a few more minutes until the next ad break. They know they are being put on the spot doing something that isn't their trade or expertise, they are sporting athlete's not media spokespersons. To say 'many Irish people' begin sentences like this is absolute wollix. Nobody I know in real life starts to speak to me in the genuine, natural real world like that. If some RTE lackey walked up to me in the street for a vox pop, I'd also start off my sentence with "Listen" or "Look it" followed by "F**k the F**k off"

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Low Tech Shoes


    Do you hear me looking at you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Tried to change it but on my phone in edit it only let's me change the post not the title. Maybe on a computer it may allow me. Fkcu. I am more annoyed at that than people beginning sentences with Look and Listen.

    Hit 'Go advanced' and you can change the title there, I think, if you're on the legacy site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,089 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Love the way 'post-colonialism' is an explanation for everything, as if the British administration packed up 2 or 3 years ago. It's only been almost a century...

    Is your sarcasm detector broken?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Robsweezie


    Do you hear me looking at you?

    you'll have to speak up, im wearing a towel


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Had a job once that required taking notes of what people were saying in lectures. I tended to write as they spoke (in case by shortening as I wrote, I missed out on something important or failed to make a connection explicit), pretty automatically and one thing I found when it came to cleaning it up is the amount of well-spoken people who start EVERY DAMN SENTENCE WITH "So," which I've automatically typed and now need to root out and change any grammar that relied on it being there.


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