Werewolf XVI - Star Trek

tritium

Jayop wrote: »

The bg is dead

And i think we were told they couldnt protect themselves on the rules query thread

tritium

Ok suggest at 4.59.59 myself jay and flush simultaneously reveal who guinan is. Guinan then places a double vote on next lynch to safelist themselves.

Sound good to everyone?

Jayop

tritium wrote: »

And i think we were told they couldnt protect themselves on the rules query thread

Imo if the BG was alive the night before last they would have protected one of us or Flushy. Them protecting Digi that night made no sense.

Jayop

tritium wrote: »

Ok suggest at 4.59.59 myself jay and flush simultaneously reveal who guinan is. Guinan then places a double vote on next lynch to safelist themselves.

Sound good to everyone?

May aswell

Barney92

Trit - On the sulli thing. I believe I had also talked about how I couldn't understand sulli doing what she was doing if she was evil. It just didn't make sense to me. I wanted her to tell us what she had seen, because she must have been mistaken. I wouldn't have understood why MrsFD came out if she was evil either.

Barney92

tritium wrote: »

So digi was legit, qb dies tonight

Bodyguard dead or didnt listen?

Jayop wrote: »

Has to be dead. No one could be that dumb.

Jayop wrote: »

Imo if the BG was alive the night before last they would have protected one of us or Flushy. Them protecting Digi that night made no sense.

Correct me if I'm wrong Jayop but previously it looked as though you were saying they should have protected Digi.

beakerjoe

Jayop wrote: »

Imo if the BG was alive the night before last they would have protected one of us or Flushy. Them protecting Digi that night made no sense.

It would have protected the seer no? Or am I missing something.

Q. I asked this yesterday but no one was sure, Can a BG protect a recruitment?

The OP didnt make that clear.

Therefore in theory, if he could then he could protect Digi from munch and being recruited.

Barney92

Sorry, read it clearly. I missed the night before last. Yes, I agree Jayop. Disregard my previous question.

sKeith

tritium wrote: »

Ok suggest at 4.59.59 myself jay and flush simultaneously reveal who guinan is. Guinan then places a double vote on next lynch to safelist themselves.

Sound good to everyone?

rule 5) says 4pm, why the precision for nearly 1 hour after the munch, did i miss a time change post?

Barney92

sKeith wrote: »

rule 5) says 4pm, why the precision for nearly 1 hour after the munch, did i miss a time change post?

According to last Modulator post:

NEXT GAME EVENT IS A MUNCH AT 17:00

beakerjoe

tritium wrote: »

Can we agree a strategy for today early please

Actually, can someone shoot/ batl'eth/ munch/ definitely not lynch Q_ssarian, and then can we agree a strategy?

Trit, knowing that yoss isnt Q now, what do you make of his behaviour on day one?

Im doing my work Necro like you asked.

Jayop

Barney92 wrote: »

Sorry, read it clearly. I missed the night before last. Yes, I agree Jayop. Disregard my previous question.

Exactly. No reason to choose Digi two nights back as he hadn't came out and there was other people to protect. Also no reason to gamble last night either as if I was a wolf I'd have taken the gamble to try to hit Digi and even if he's protected get him the following turn.

sKeith

Guffy wrote: »

The worst thing about ffa is the time it takes up discussing on whether or not we should do an ffa.

Very true..

So, can we discuss now to save time later as its a speed day, not who is on any ffa's, but if we are doing an ffa or not, after the munch.
If we are, will it be an advisory ffa or should be strictly adhered to. etc.

Necro

I'm not doing an FFA as the idea seems to be to stick to Trits theory.

However if you decide to lynch me I will be found good.

I think the following are wolves who have been floating around me either placating my nonsense or infuriating me.

Barney - it's a process of elimination thing. But Barney has been very vocal in his support of me at times. It makes me suss. Cos I see why I'm suss.

BJ - has spent most of the past 2 days antagonising me rather than doing anything concrete himself. Floating past here to my sheer amazement.

Strawberry - I'll pull up the post later but I think QB feared Strawbs getting the chop and hedged her bets after defending for so long.

Barney92

Jayop wrote: »

Exactly. No reason to choose Digi two nights back as he hadn't came out and there was other people to protect. Also no reason to gamble last night either as if I was a wolf I'd have taken the gamble to try to hit Digi and even if he's protected get him the following turn.

Exactly since we know now that Digi was good, the wolves would've been crazy to not try to munch him. By not munching you're giving extra peeks. So the bg would almost certainly have been protecting Digi last night if they were still alive.

Of course the bg wouldn't have known digi was good but the consensus was that we needed to hope digi was tell the truth and the bg should protect them.

So I agree, bg is almost certainly dead.

sKeith

Digital Solitude wrote: »

This conversation should be had after I'm munched in the morning, and if I'm not munched in the morning we should pro-con it then.

3 Wolves in these 9 players regardless.
Yoss
Grumps
Barney
Necro
Vale
BJ
Ecto
Strawbs
Guffy

Trit, Check your list against Digi's?

beakerjoe

Necrominus wrote: »

I'm not doing an FFA as the idea seems to be to stick to Trits theory.

However if you decide to lynch me I will be found good.

I think the following are wolves who have been floating around me either placating my nonsense or infuriating me.

Barney - it's a process of elimination thing. But Barney has been very vocal in his support of me at times. It makes me suss. Cos I see why I'm suss.

BJ - has spent most of the past 2 days antagonising me rather than doing anything concrete himself. Floating past here to my sheer amazement.

Strawberry - I'll pull up the post later but I think QB feared Strawbs getting the chop and hedged her bets after defending for so long.

Please, would you stop? I hardly spent the whole 2 days going after you. Youre digging your own hole here.

Barney92

tritium wrote: »

1.QB. Wolf
2.Trit. Clear
3.Yoss. Clear
6.Ectoplasm. Clear
8.BJ. Clear
9.Guffy. Clear
10.sKeith
13.Necrominus
14.Jayop. Clear
17. Strawbs. Clear
18. Valeyard
20. Grumpylumpy
22. Mrs Flushdraw. Clear
23. Barney

My list for next lynch is anyone not marked clear

Digital Solitude wrote: »

This conversation should be had after I'm munched in the morning, and if I'm not munched in the morning we should pro-con it then.

3 Wolves in these 9 players regardless.
Yoss
Grumps
Barney
Necro
Vale
BJ
Ecto
Strawbs
Guffy

People that weren't cleared by Trit's crazy eights
sKeith
Necro
Vale
Grumpy
Barney

On both Trit and Digi's suspect list
Grumpy
Barney
Necro
Vale

However, I'm unsure of some of the reasons for clearing the crazy eight. I'm happy clearing trit, Jay, MrsFD of any of the original wolves and I reckon that either MrsFD or someone outside of that three got turned. But the rest I think the reasons might be a bit light. But going with it it does leave the above four. I've said I don't think Necro is evil. I didn't before the recruiting and I think they'd have been mad to take Necro.

Necro

beakerjoe wrote:

Please, would you stop? I hardly spent the whole 2 days going after you. Youre digging your own hole here.

Don't like it when the tables are turned, no?

You're a wolf who's jumped on pSTARRs bandwagon and is sailing through the game without doing a damn thing.

Jayop

Honestly I'm at a loss here and I'm not seeing any realistic way we can win this. We can only afford one more mistake and given we have absolutely no idea who the other wolves are and have not a single player safelisted we're screwed.

I've got to say that this game seems to be leaned way in the favour of the wolves. Only one seer who we couldn't trust Vs 6 wolves one of whom requires being killed twice is almost impossible.

The_Valeyard

I'm all over the place today.

Guffy

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I'm all over the place today.

You've been all over the place since day 1

The_Valeyard

Guffy wrote: »

You've been all over the place since day 1

I've been amazing

Necro

BJ, you still think I'm a wolf?

Bring your evidence to the table instead of hiding behind PSTARRS claim.

Guffy

Guffy wrote: »

You've been all over the place since day 1

Sorry snarky no need for it. Just pissed off at how this is ending. Can we just do a speed speed day rather than stringing it out?

Jayop

Barney92 wrote: »

People that weren't cleared by Trit's crazy eights
sKeith
Necro
Vale
Grumpy
Barney

On both Trit and Digi's suspect list
Grumpy
Barney
Necro
Vale

However, I'm unsure of some of the reasons for clearing the crazy eight. I'm happy clearing trit, Jay, MrsFD of any of the original wolves and I reckon that either MrsFD or someone outside of that three got turned. But the rest I think the reasons might be a bit light. But going with it it does leave the above four. I've said I don't think Necro is evil. I didn't before the recruiting and I think they'd have been mad to take Necro.

OK, so here's the problem we have. We have 4 wolves left, The queen, 2 Original Wolves and the Recruit.

Absolutely every player bar MrsFD and either me or Trit could be the queen
Absolutely every player could have been the recruit. Only myself or Trit can clear ourselves of this.
Every player bar MrsFD, Trit, Me and Skieth could be the other two wolves.

1. Barney
2.Trit.
3.Yoss.
4.Ectoplasm.
5.BJ.
6.Guffy.
7.sKeith
8.Necrominus
9. Jayop.
10. Strawbs.
11. Valeyard
12. Grumpylumpy
13. Mrs Flushdraw.

So 13 players and 4 wolves remain, one of whom is a double kill. After the slaughter now at 5 it'll be 12 with 5 (calling queen 2).

Our best bet at this stage for me is to focus on the 2 original wolves who aren't the queen.

Barney
Yoss
Ecto
BJ
Guffy
Necro
Strawbs
Vale
Grump

So 8 players in that list. Presuming that neither the queen or the recruit are in there (both could be) then we have a 1/4 chance of hitting a wolf.

Personally I'm still hot on Vale and Strawbs. If someone else has a role claim to make that they can verify then now at 4.59 is the time to do it.

Ectoplasm

Mad day for me. Be on after 5.30ish if I'm still alive which I assume I will be as I've been next to useless all game

The_Valeyard

Guffy wrote: »

Sorry snarky no need for it. Just pissed off at how this is ending. Can we just do a speed speed day rather than stringing it out?

No worries


Free hugs!!!

Guffy

The_Valeyard wrote: »

No worries


Free hugs!!!

I need one. Work night 365 days of the year and the one time they give me a morning and i feel like ive been working 48 hours straight. Gona collapse into bed very shortly i think. Not that its hard just my body not used to being up at 5am

Jayop

quickbeam wrote: »

When things have calmed down maybe you can explain the logic of why you've chosen those four - two if Yoss is good, two if Yoss is bad.

I'm struggling to follow since Digi's announcement.

If you think Yoss is a better option for finding wolves then I'll trust you as the more experienced player and a semi-confirmed goodie.

This post may just put Yoss slightly in the clear. Would a wolf have been willing to join my attempted bandwagon on Yoss with little to go on if Yoss was also evil?