Werewolf XVI - Star Trek

Necro

Drumpot wrote:

Riddle me this Necro, why would I push for a vote (as you will see from my posts that you can find), only to hide in the "No lynch" votes ? Why bother pushing for the vote if I am a wolf who doesn't want to vote ?

I have absolutely no idea to be honest. That's what I can't quite understand about it.

patrickSTARR

mahamageehad wrote: »

Hmmm Necro, you're pinging me all kinds of wrong with this post.

Finally, someone else starts to see through him

Necro

mahamageehad wrote:

Hmmm Necro, you're pinging me all kinds of wrong with this post.

I love you too mahama

I'm simply opening my mind a little to other people's ideas rather than forcing my own agenda which has been wrong thus far

y0ssar1an22

Guffy wrote: »

Not that early. Only after lynch and tonight was the first. Pj's evasiveness all day was very peculiar.


Sigh the effort of reading all that only to find out he was shot. I thought a fair few of us had come to the assumption that he wasn't q just before the lynch. If not why did you vote for him (necro)? Also maha had given a fairly good reason as to why pj wasnt q. Premature shot by the looks of it. Not the vigs fault btw, there was a lot of pressure to act there.


Its very frustrating to read the results and see that the ffa was completely ignored. Here i am trying to put 3 people up and give reasons rather than saying gut and then half just ignore it.

Mainly curious on pstar with that one, because of the non ffa voters i know you definitely posted one. In fact you even pushed it the most. You were first in and i believe you repeatedly asked for ffas. Why suggest an ffa if you were going to ignore the results anyway?

Sulli i am a little suspicious of you at the moment. You voted for mick, when a band wagon appeared for pj you were keen to jump on it? Then you didn't vote for pj and called for him to be shot tonight. This is a little worrying.

sully anything to say? you have posted since guffy's post but havent responded to it

Necro

patrickSTARR wrote:

Finally, someone else starts to see through him

Not. Going. To. Happen.

Drumpot

Necrominus wrote: »

I love you too mahama

I'm simply opening my mind a little to other people's ideas rather than forcing my own agenda which has been wrong thus far

In all fairness, you post so little it would be very difficult for you to force your ideas or agenda . .

MrsFlushdraw

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Ms Flush, would you agree that it would be a good wolf tactic to vote "no lynch"?

It sure could be Patrick. I agree with you there that it COULD in theory be a good place for wolves to hide.

MrsFlushdraw

SO Patrick and Grumpy seem to be working together to rattle cages, mine especially?

Maybe Mahama is team good after all and it is Grumps that we need to watch? I don't think she has read the thread properly and going by what she has been told happened in her little back room.

Necro

Drumpot wrote:

In all fairness, you post so little it would be very difficult for you to force your ideas or agenda . .

Me? Post too much? Aw shucks Drumpot, you know I wouldn't do that

patrickSTARR

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

It sure could be Patrick. I agree with you there that it COULD in theory be a good place for wolves to hide.

patrickSTARR

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

SO Patrick and Grumpy seem to be working together to rattle cages, mine especially?

Maybe Mahama is team good after all and it is Grumps that we need to watch? I don't think she has read the thread properly and going by what she has been told happened in her little back room.

Im working alone...... like Columbo. I don't need no sidekick, esp one that could be a wolf

y0ssar1an22

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Im working alone...... like Columbo. I don't need no sidekick, esp one that could be a wolf

can i be your sidekick?

MrsFlushdraw

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Im working alone...... like Columbo. I don't need no sidekick, esp one that could be a wolf

patrickSTARR

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

can i be your sidekick?

Only if you ride sidecar

Barney92

Can I just kick your side?

MrsFlushdraw

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Im working alone...... like Columbo. I don't need no sidekick, esp one that could be a wolf

Second try..

y0ssar1an22

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Can I just kick your side?

what about a kick in the face?

Kolido

Kolido wrote: »

Morning crew.

I've been going through multiple scenarios in my head, some which have been clarified since last night.

1. if Mick or PJ were Q, I think it is more likely to have been PJ, so shooting him was better that lynching.

2. I think there is a good chance PJ was Q, I can't think of any reason why villager would claim the role in there first post. I would believe more Q would do it to cause confusion.

3. Remember though, Q has to be lynched to win the game. If there is another high suspect, then just don't lynch him or shoot him. He counts as a villager. As a village, we are under no obligation to kill Q at all. Wolves possibly more so when it come near the end.

4. Our best strategy now is to focus on wolves, hopefully the seer has identified at least one already. Remember wolves know who is good, village don't know who is bad.

5. Need to hold fire on the bullets untill we are sure we have a wolf.

Kolido wrote: »

I'd agree that wolves are amoung those who voted for someone. Both candidates last night, Mick and PJ were not wolves, so would be in their interest to vote someone instead of no lynch as to aviod the suspicion on no-lynchers.

Anyone?

WerewolfGM

WerewolfGM wrote: »

Vote Tally:

No Lynch – 3 Votes (MrsFlushdraw, Drumpot, Jayop)
Mick – 6 Votes (sKeith, Quickbeam, Beakerjoe, Sully, Kolido, Partjungle)
PartyJungle – 4 Votes (LordTSC, Guffy, Barney, Necro)
Mahamageehad – 2 Votes (Valeyard, Tritium)
Yossarian – 3 Votes (Ecto, Strawberry, Digi)
LordTSC – 1 Vote (PatrickStarr)
Strawberry – 1 Vote (Mahama)
Sullivo – 1 Vote (Yossar)
PatrickStarr – 1 Vote (Crosstown)
Did not vote - 2 - Grumpy, Mick

Firing this up again to save searching back loads of pages

Necro

Kolido wrote:

Anyone?

Well, I agree that there are wolves amongst the Mick voters. But apparently I'm narrow minded for thinking this.

Then I use someone else's strategy and I'm pinging the wrong buttons for another person.

So I dunno. Damned if I do...

y0ssar1an22

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

what about a kick in the face?

Luff you too!

Can you imagine facekicker playing this game 😂

There is definitely more than one wolf in the mick and pj votes. Focus on both and increase our chances?

y0ssar1an22

Kolido wrote: »

Anyone?

seen as both are villagers (well 1 could be q i suppose), the wolves would have been happy lumping on those 2. but this would only be a factor if a wolf was in the firing line. i think i may have been 3rd in the FFA, but as i am not a wolf, theres not much to be garnered from last nights votes , i think.

is there any point looking to at the timing of votes?

patrickSTARR

Necrominus wrote: »

Well, I agree that there are wolves amongst the Mick voters. But apparently I'm narrow minded for thinking this.

Then I use someone else's strategy and I'm pinging the wrong buttons for another person.

So I dunno. Damned if I do...

Your narrow minded for just thinking the Mick Voters. PJ would be just as good a choice and has less posters. The non lynchers are even less and just as likely to hold a wolf.

patrickSTARR

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

There is definitely more than one wolf in the mick and pj votes. Focus on both and increase our chances?

Focus on PJ as its 1 in 4 chance, while Mick is 1 in 6 and together its 1 in 5

I STILL THINK WE SHOULD EITHER GO AFTER THE NON LYNCHERS OR THE PJ VOTERS. MORE CHANCE OF HITTING A WINNER!

grumpylumpy

Lads I'm just not going to read back, I'm too lazy and I'm in work trying to look busy. Anyone want to tell me why everyone jumped on Mick?

I think whoever said we've a 1 in 3 chance racing the no lynch vote peeps make a good point. I don't think 3 wolves would be dumb enough to bandwagon on that but I'm willing to bet at least one of them jumped on it and then couldn't back down when it started looking suss.

I do not understand drumpot's vote for no lynch at all. Not to say its condemning but I just can't see the reasoning.

mahamageehad

Necrominus wrote: »

I love you too mahama

I'm simply opening my mind a little to other people's ideas rather than forcing my own agenda which has been wrong thus far

Ok, so looping through your last post in a little more detail. Not accusing you of anything just yet, but I find it interesting how your statements don't match up with how I remember things.

Necrominus wrote: »

Well going off your strategy you could run the three non lynch voters in a race I suppose?
I dunno they SEEM valid reasons for voting non lynch (Drumpots is the least plausible let's put it that way) but it could of course be rubbish.
Flushy, I know you responded to this already but you were so Uber quick to jump on non lynch I'm wary of you right now.

So, when Barney first brought back the plan way back on page 9, Mick was the first to agree to it, then you, then Flush. Seems like you jumped quicker than Flush at that point.

Necrominus wrote: »

The plan is decent (assuming you're not Q of course). I just don't want us to get hung up on Q and let the Borgensteins run roughshod over this peaceful place

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

I would agree to no lynch but think the vig and the bezzy guy should hold fire with the guns. But that is only my opinion.

Then, later when the plan was brought back up again (#668) after modulators confirmed how it would work, again seemed amenable to it quicker than Flush.

Barney92 wrote: »

Well this means that the flaw in my plan isn't actually a flaw. Not that I think we should definitely do it. Also, people have been against it from early on so not everyone is going to do it.

Necrominus wrote: »

I MAY be amenable to this strategy. My theory on Mick is... weak to be honest and it's the strongest wolfy vibe I'm getting right now. No decisions right now though, let's see what the rest of the evening brings us

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

I am heading out. Going to make a vote for no lynch in case I am not back

I'm interested in your opinion here because it's not the first time you've accused flush of this (#761). Seeing those in that order, are you still suspicious of her? Especially since you said you weren't really suss of Mick (who turned out to be good), even though he pushed the no lynch harder than anyone. Why not be suss of the creator of the no lynch idea Barney? Dunno, finding it hard to follow your logic here.

Necrominus wrote: »

Jayop, you did a lot of flitting between non lynch and voting to lynch, why eventually settle on non lynch when it was clear it wasn't going to happen?

My reading of Jayop's posts are that he was always for the no lynch once mods had confirmed how it would work. I don't see any flip flopping? He seems steady in wanting a no lynch.

Jayop wrote: »

OK so if half +1 vote no lynch then that's the majority.

Jayop wrote: »

Given the new info we have it makes sense.

Jayop wrote: »

I said that before the new rule clarification. I think the first night or two a no lynch might be better till we have more to go on.

Jayop wrote: »

The problem with no lynch voting is that if it doesn't have the numbers to pass then it'll hurt the village. The Wolves all vote for people and its pretty much a free kill for them.

Jayop wrote: »

I only quick read up till I showed up. Not really got anything other than Patrick being ott with his posting.

I don't know who to vote for tonight so I think I'm going no vote.

Necrominus wrote: »

Drumpot, are you sure you don't need glasses? It's in plain black and white in the OP that the lynch is at 9pm... Why would you think it was 10pm???

That's twice in 1 post you put a little shade on Drumpot. That's interesting.

Necro

patrickSTARR wrote:

Your narrow minded for just thinking the Mick Voters. PJ would be just as good a choice and has less posters. The non lynchers are even less and just as likely to hold a wolf.

:rolleyes: And going for the PJ voters buys into your 'open-minded' theory nicely doesn't it?

patrickSTARR

grumpylumpy wrote: »

Lads I'm just not going to read back, I'm too lazy and I'm in work trying to look busy. Anyone want to tell me why everyone jumped on Mick?

I think whoever said we've a 1 in 3 chance racing the no lynch vote peeps make a good point. I don't think 3 wolves would be dumb enough to bandwagon on that but I'm willing to bet at least one of them jumped on it and then couldn't back down when it started looking suss.

I do not understand drumpot's vote for no lynch at all. Not to say its condemning but I just can't see the reasoning.

I believe Beakerjoe was one of the first to say they were voting for him openly, other put him in their FFA.

Beakerjoe and another poster (think Sully, might be wrong) reckoned he was too quick and too hard on swaying a non lynch, a result that that in Joes opinion would be a wolf move.

tritium

Can we agree a strategy for today early please

Actually, can someone shoot/ batl'eth/ munch/ definitely not lynch Q_ssarian, and then can we agree a strategy?

Ectoplasm

Started my read back but got interrupted.

Think Vale could be Q but best to ignore if that's the case. Something about Strawberry's posts are pinging my radar but I'm finding it hard to nail down and afraid it's me tunnelling.

sKeith also rang a bell for me but I'm on mobile so can't quote and getting too close to munch time to go back over thread again. Will post more later when at computer if I'm still alive.

patrickSTARR

Necrominus wrote: »

:rolleyes: And going for the PJ voters buys into your 'open-minded' theory nicely doesn't it?

We have a 1 in 3 chance of getting a wolf in the non lynchers, its the best odds you clod

patrickSTARR

tritium wrote: »

Can we agree a strategy for today early please

Actually, can someone shoot/ batl'eth/ munch/ definitely not lynch Q_ssarian, and then can we agree a strategy?

Im for going for the non lynchers (3 of whom).

Necro

mahamageehad wrote:

I'm interested in your opinion here because it's not the first time you've accused flush of this (#761). Seeing those in that order, are you still suspicious of her? Especially since you said you weren't really suss of Mick (who turned out to be good), even though he pushed the no lynch harder than anyone. Why not be suss of the creator of the no lynch idea Barney? Dunno, finding it hard to follow your logic here.

Truth be told I don't have any prime suspects. Do you? I've spent half the day yesterday defending myself against a half-baked conspiracy theory and the other half convinced PJ was a baddy.
So forgive me if I'm jumping all over the place.

You know that is actually a village trait by the way? Being uncertain and willing to change your viewpoint.

Consistency and absolute certainty on points is a wolf trait concocted in a wolf den.

Kolido

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Im for going for the non lynchers (3 of whom).

Why do you think there is at least one wolf in the non-lynchers?

Barney92

patrickSTARR wrote: »

We have a 1 in 3 chance of getting a wolf in the non lynchers, its the best odds you clod

We have a 1 in 3 chance if one of them is actually a wolf. We could have a 0% chance, which I think is likely enough as I don't believe any wolves went for the no lynch in the end.

y0ssar1an22

tritium wrote: »

Can we agree a strategy for today early please

Actually, can someone shoot/ batl'eth/ munch/ definitely not lynch Q_ssarian, and then can we agree a strategy?

are you saying you think i'm q? at least give a reason

Lord TSC

Necrominus wrote: »

:rolleyes: And going for the PJ voters buys into your 'open-minded' theory nicely doesn't it?

What happened to you not stoking the fires with Patrick? :P

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Im for going for the non lynchers (3 of whom).

I don't get the logic that there definitely has to be a wolf in the non-lynchers. I'd have thought the wolves would have been attentive enough not to draw attention to themselves by opting not to vote....

mahamageehad

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

SO Patrick and Grumpy seem to be working together to rattle cages, mine especially?

Maybe Mahama is team good after all and it is Grumps that we need to watch? I don't think she has read the thread properly and going by what she has been told happened in her little back room.

Strange flip. Looks a tad defensive, like you're just looking for someone to focus on.

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

can i be your sidekick?

Care to explain this weirdness? This isn't the first time you're done some strange cosying up to the starman.....

patrickSTARR wrote: »

We have a 1 in 3 chance of getting a wolf in the non lynchers, its the best odds you clod

It's only the best odds if there's defo a wolf there. For me, I'm not sure on that. I'd think most in order of likeliness to be a wolf amongst those three it's Flush, Jayo, Drumpot. Not convinced on any of them yet though.

patrickSTARR

Kolido wrote: »

Why do you think there is at least one wolf in the non-lynchers?

I think it be a great wolf tactic, you don't accuse anyone. You just don't vote and it be a great way to avoid heat, esp if no wolves were up for a vote. No need to bandwagon Pj or Mick.

Plus I don't see a good enough reason why you wouldn't vote for a lynch.

patrickSTARR

Necrominus wrote: »

You know that is actually a village trait by the way? Being uncertain and willing to change your viewpoint.

Consistency and absolute certainty on points is a wolf trait concocted in a wolf den.

The fact you say this is wolfy. If you were a wolf, you'd play exactly as you are then. No?

WerewolfGM

ANNOUNCEMENT IMMINENT!

patrickSTARR

Barney92 wrote: »

We have a 1 in 3 chance if one of them is actually a wolf. We could have a 0% chance, which I think is likely enough as I don't believe any wolves went for the no lynch in the end.

Why don't you think that?

mahamageehad

Necrominus wrote: »

Truth be told I don't have any prime suspects. Do you? I've spent half the day yesterday defending myself against a half-baked conspiracy theory and the other half convinced PJ was a baddy.
So forgive me if I'm jumping all over the place.

You know that is actually a village trait by the way? Being uncertain and willing to change your viewpoint.

Consistency and absolute certainty on points is a wolf trait concocted in a wolf den.

So being uncertain is a villager trait, but you have Jayo on your hit list for flip flopping, which is the same thing, even though he did nothing of the sort?

My current prime suspect is Sulli. Her reaction was way over the top when I accused her yesterday. y0ss, QB, Strawb and BJ are also dodgy, but I need to go through their posts again today and see exactly why I thought that and if it's still valid.

Kolido

patrickSTARR wrote: »

I think it be a great wolf tactic, you don't accuse anyone. You just don't vote and it be a great way to avoid heat, esp if no wolves were up for a vote. No need to bandwagon Pj or Mick.

Plus I don't see a good enough reason why you wouldn't vote for a lynch.

Then voting non-lynch is drawing a lot of attention on themselves. Jumping on the top 2 last night would be the perfect place to hide out.

Digital Solitude

Anyone got a post count?

Flushy pulling out some weird posts this morning, lots of words but not much substance.

Yoss, why the vote for Sully?

And where oh where have CTK and Jayop gone during all this? Very little of substance from either of them.

Necro

patrickSTARR wrote:

The fact you say this is wolfy. If you were a wolf, you'd play exactly as you are then. No?

Whether I would or wouldn't is redundant because I'm a villager. A pointless, insignificant one.

If this is going to blur the lines all day, put your money where your mouth is. Round up a posse and ****ing lynch me. Then we'll see how good your gut is.

patrickSTARR

Necrominus wrote: »

Whether I would or wouldn't is redundant because I'm a villager. A pointless, insignificant one.

If this is going to blur the lines all day, put your money where your mouth is. Round up a posse and ****ing lynch me. Then we'll see how good your gut is.

Ive said what ive said, if others wanna follow they are welcome to.

Kolido

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Anyone got a post count?

Flushy pulling out some weird posts this morning, lots of words but not much substance.

Yoss, why the vote for Sully?

And where oh where have CTK and Jayop gone during all this? Very little of substance from either of them.

Necrominus 255
patrickSTARR 112
y0ssar1an22 72
The_Valeyard 69
quickbeam 66
MicksJaguar 59
beakerjoe 57
Lord TSC 55
Barney92 53
Drumpot 51
Kolido 50
mahamageehad 46
Strawberry Milkshake 46
sullivlo 44
sKeith 35
robyntmorton 35
MrsFlushdraw 34
Guffy 31
partyjungle 30
Digital Solitude 30
tritium 27
Pter 21
Jayop 18
crosstownk 16
WerewolfGM 14
Ectoplasm 14
grumpylumpy 6
Mollyb60 3
Uriel. 1