Werewolf XVI - Star Trek

mahamageehad

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Anyone got a post count?

Flushy pulling out some weird posts this morning, lots of words but not much substance.

Yoss, why the vote for Sully?

And where oh where have CTK and Jayop gone during all this? Very little of substance from either of them.

I asked y0ss already twice, no reply. You're right too, where is Cross and Jayop?

Necrominus 255
patrickSTARR 111
y0ssar1an22 72
The_Valeyard 69
quickbeam 66
MicksJaguar 59
beakerjoe 57
Lord TSC 55
Barney92 53
Drumpot 51
Kolido 50
mahamageehad 46
Strawberry Milkshake 46
sullivlo 44
robyntmorton 35
sKeith 35
MrsFlushdraw 34
Guffy 31
partyjungle 30
Digital Solitude 30
tritium 27
Pter 21
Jayop 18
crosstownk 16
Ectoplasm 14
WerewolfGM 14
grumpylumpy 6
Mollyb60 3
Uriel. 1

y0ssar1an22

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Anyone got a post count?

Flushy pulling out some weird posts this morning, lots of words but not much substance.

Yoss, why the vote for Sully?

And where oh where have CTK and Jayop gone during all this? Very little of substance from either of them.

i think sully is wolfy. it was for 1 simple comment she made last night. but i am beginning to feel reinforced in my belief. i still want to hear her response to guffy's question.
we also got into a debate about why i wasn't on her FFA. at lunch i will go back to see if the timeline checks out, but i suspect it wont

Necro

mahamageehad wrote:

So being uncertain is a villager trait, but you have Jayo on your hit list for flip flopping, which is the same thing, even though he did nothing of the sort?

Why are you defending Jayop suddenly?you know you actually pointed out something to me. He didn't flip flop. Once he was sure Q couldn't win via no lynch he was all over it like a rash EVEN when it wasn't going to happen.

Have I actually latched onto something?

So there you have it. Jayop is my prime suspect.

crosstownk

I'm not inclined to think that wolves would take the no lynch option - more likely to draw attention.

Digital Solitude

Thanks pal

Necro those stats remind me of an old saying

"Diarrhea of the mouth, constipation of the brain"

Sully where are you? You were being so cuddly on thread yesterday

mahamageehad

I think we've played a poor game so far and need to organise today.
We've lost 3 villagers, imo one rolled and 2 vanillagers.
Therefore, we're already losing numbers and we've lost gifts.

Anyone have any ideas of how we should organise today?
FFA again? Is there a better option?

y0ssar1an22

mahamageehad wrote: »

I asked y0ss already twice, no reply. You're right too, where is Cross and Jayop?

[/S]

did you? i may have missed them. but i have been quite forthcoming on why i voted for her

WerewolfGM

Captains Log: Stardate 47828.7

Chief O’Brien has reported evidence of an attack in the ship haberdashery. No bodies were recovered and all crew are accounted for so it seems like the would-be assailant(s) were sh1t out of luck.

mahamageehad

Necrominus wrote: »

Why are you defending Jayop suddenly?you know you actually pointed out something to me. He didn't flip flop. Once he was sure Q couldn't win via no lynch he was all over it like a rash EVEN when it wasn't going to happen.

Have I actually latched onto something?

So there you have it. Jayop is my prime suspect.

I'm not defending him, of the 3 non voters he'd be squarely in the middle for me in terms of likeliness. I'm more questioning your statements, and picking holes in them.

Digital Solitude

crosstownk wrote: »

I'm not inclined to think that wolves would take the no lynch option - more likely to draw attention.

Did you tell the other lads how to vote or did they make their own minds up?

mahamageehad

Excellent job bodyguard.

Ectoplasm

Im guessing the bodyguard did their job very well

mahamageehad

So, the bodyguard now has a confirmed villager. Excellent news.
Bad news is that they can't protect them again tonight.

crosstownk

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Did you tell the other lads how to vote or did they make their own minds up?

Nobody gave me a comm-link thingy.

Drumpot

So how do we play this ? Does the person targeted know they were protected ? If so, can anybody give a reason why they shouldn't come out ? If they don't know, then they are dead player walking, does anybody have any idea how we can warn them without the BG coming out ?

Lord TSC

mahamageehad wrote: »

I think we've played a poor game so far and need to organise today.
We've lost 3 villagers, imo one rolled and 2 vanillagers.
Therefore, we're already losing numbers and we've lost gifts.

Anyone have any ideas of how we should organise today?
FFA again? Is there a better option?

Not a poor game now. That's awesome work from the bodyguard this morning. They should now have a good idea of someone who is relatively good as well.

crosstownk

mahamageehad wrote: »

.
Bad news is that they can't protect them again tonight.

Nothing in the OP about the bodyguard being able to protect him/herself either.

patrickSTARR

Great work BG (I think)


Mahama, just because the BG protected someone doesn't mean they are confirmed good either.

Necro

mahamageehad wrote:

I'm not defending him, of the 3 non voters he'd be squarely in the middle for me in terms of likeliness. I'm more questioning your statements, and picking holes in them.

I can guarantee you I'll say something now and forget about it in the heat of posting later. Pick away but you're barking up the wrong tree my dear.

mahamageehad

Post 1251 and post 1149.

mahamageehad wrote: »

It was me, here's the quote:

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

did you? i may have missed them. but i have been quite forthcoming on why i voted for her

Lord TSC

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Great work BG (I think)


Mahama, just because the BG protected someone doesn't mean they are confirmed good either.

Doesn't it? Unlikely the wolves would target a baddy. If the bodyguard had a successful protection, then they should be confident that who they protected was good.

mahamageehad

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Great work BG (I think)


Mahama, just because the BG protected someone doesn't mean they are confirmed good either.

Sure the wolves can't target themselves? Yeah, it could be Q, but I think the wolves picked up on a rolled player, and the BG saw the same hints.

Drumpot

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Great work BG (I think)


Mahama, just because the BG protected someone doesn't mean they are confirmed good either.

Why would the BG need to protect a baddy ? that is, if the BG accidentally chose a baddy to protect it wouldn't make a difference because the wolves are hardly going to choose a wolf to munch ?!

crosstownk

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Great work BG (I think)


Mahama, just because the BG protected someone doesn't mean they are confirmed good either.

The wolves would hardy kill each other so whoever was protected is good. For now.

Digital Solitude

Ecto who're your top suspects right now?

patrickSTARR

Lord TSC wrote: »

Doesn't it? Unlikely the wolves would target a baddy. If the bodyguard had a successful protection, then they should be confident that who they protected was good.

Not unless its Q.

MrsFlushdraw

WTF??

Drumpot

From past universes does anybody know if targeted crewmembers are informed if they are protected ?

patrickSTARR

Drumpot wrote: »

Why would the BG need to protect a baddy ? that is, if the BG accidentally chose a baddy to protect it wouldn't make a difference because the wolves are hardly going to choose a wolf to munch ?!

Its most likely a goody, just saying its still possible its Q and the BG protected Q and the wolves targeted him.

mahamageehad

Drumpot wrote: »

So how do we play this ? Does the person targeted know they were protected ? If so, can anybody give a reason why they shouldn't come out ? If they don't know, then they are dead player walking, does anybody have any idea how we can warn them without the BG coming out ?

Not that I'm aware of, the wolves will know who they targeted, and so will the bodyguard, but no other players would.

crosstownk wrote: »

Nothing in the OP about the bodyguard being able to protect him/herself either.

What's your point here Cross, that the BG himself could have been the target?

Ectoplasm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Ecto who're your top suspects right now?

From my read earlier is was Vale Strawbs and sKeith but I'm going to throw CTK in there too

sullivlo

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

sully anything to say? you have posted since guffy's post but havent responded to it

I'm speed reading, sorry.

I have my reasons.

Necro

Drumpot wrote:

From past universes does anybody know if targeted crewmembers are informed if they are protected ?

Don't think so. Only the bodyguard will know (and obviously the wolves)

Lord TSC

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Not unless its Q.

Why would the bodyguard protect someone they think is Q?

Plus, regardless, if it is Q, you don't want to lynch that person who was protected either. At the very least, you can say "whoever was protected is not a wolf", and the bodyguard can safely list them as good-ish.

Kolido

Drumpot wrote: »

So how do we play this ? Does the person targeted know they were protected ? If so, can anybody give a reason why they shouldn't come out ? If they don't know, then they are dead player walking, does anybody have any idea how we can warn them without the BG coming out ?

All villagers are that, wolves know who the villagers are. BG would not know if the protected player was roled or not, though could have an inclination reading their posts.

But you're right in the sense they could be targeted again tomorrow knowing the same player can't be protected twice.

Digital Solitude

Drumpot wrote: »

From past universes does anybody know if targeted crewmembers are informed if they are protected ?

Mod discretion

I think we should play as if they don't know

Good job BG

Was BJ or QB round this morning? Can't say I remember either of them.

MrsFlushdraw

mahamageehad wrote: »

Excellent job bodyguard.

Ectoplasm wrote: »

Im guessing the bodyguard did their job very well

mahamageehad wrote: »

So, the bodyguard now has a confirmed villager. Excellent news.
Bad news is that they can't protect them again tonight.

Should have F5 before I posted.

I was forgetting there is only one baddy team, so used to multiple kills that I wondered what had happened.

Good work BG

crosstownk

I don't think we should overly focus on Q. For all we know, that ship may have already sailed. We can't continually steer clear of players who may or may not be Q. Easy for a wolf to hide masquerading as Q.

sullivlo

mahamageehad wrote: »

So, the bodyguard now has a confirmed villager. Excellent news.
Bad news is that they can't protect them again tonight.

Unless they protected q

patrickSTARR

sullivlo wrote: »

I'm speed reading, sorry.

I have my reasons.

Sully pops up, Mahama has been talking smack in your direction, any rebuttal?

Did you fail in your kill this morning?

tritium

WerewolfGM wrote: »

Captains Log: Stardate 47828.7

Chief O’Brien has reported evidence of an attack in the ship haberdashery. No bodies were recovered and all crew are accounted for so it seems like the would-be assailant(s) were sh1t out of luck.

Yay you rock data



Has to be right?

crosstownk

mahamageehad wrote: »

What's your point here Cross, that the BG himself could have been the target?

Possible. Also it would help later if there was confusion as to whether the BG woudl protect himself or a confirmed villager - to keep the wolves away from both of them.

Necro

Digital Solitude wrote:

Was BJ or QB round this morning? Can't say I remember either of them.

No it could be RL related however. Although both are twigging my radar for different reasons tbh...

grumpylumpy

patrickSTARR wrote: »

I think it be a great wolf tactic, you don't accuse anyone. You just don't vote and it be a great way to avoid heat, esp if no wolves were up for a vote. No need to bandwagon Pj or Mick.

Plus I don't see a good enough reason why you wouldn't vote for a lynch.

Personally I was thinking that at least one wolf jumped on the no vote and couldn't backtract so we've got the 1 in 3 chance

However laid out like this it seems incredibly stupid. They know who they are. They could easily cleverly split the vote on a villager to appear not to be suspicious, but guarantee one less goodie

sullivlo

I know who the vig is. I'm guessing wolfies did too and so did the bodyguard.

mahamageehad

sullivlo wrote: »

Unless they protected q

We've already been through this. Doesn't actually matter.
Either way, the bodyguard will want to make sure that the person that they protected last night isn't today's lynch suspect.

Lord TSC

sullivlo wrote: »

Unless they protected q

Same as I said to Patrick up above, that's not an issue, because the bodyguard, either way, knows someone isn't a wolf and knows not to lynch them tonight.

The BG right now can say "x person is not a wolf and should not be lynched tonight" safely.

MrsFlushdraw

I do think we got Q, nothing makes sense to why PJ played the way he did. But him coming out doesn't make sense either and I don't see him being a good guy protecting someone. Just doesn't seem right.

Really frustrating that we will just not know till either endgame or if the real Q manages to get lynched.

sullivlo

Lord TSC wrote: »

Same as I said to Patrick up above, that's not an issue, because the bodyguard, either way, knows someone isn't a wolf and knows not to lynch them tonight.

The BG right now can say "x person is not a wolf and should not be lynched tonight" safely.

I'm only really waking up now. Makes sense. Thanks.

sullivlo

mahamageehad wrote: »

We've already been through this. Doesn't actually matter.
Either way, the bodyguard will want to make sure that the person that they protected last night isn't today's lynch suspect.

See my response to lord