Werewolf XVI - Star Trek

patrickSTARR

Necrominus wrote: »

Weak to you perhaps

Hes not the only one. Mahama and myself seem to think of you in the same light.

Beaker, while still unknown, would be a nice name to add to your FFA wolf. You need someone on it whos not Mahama, me or your wolf buddies.

patrickSTARR

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Patricks #FFA2


Lord TSC - not as vocal as yesterday, but I still don't trust him. Him and Necro seemed to eager to defend eachother. I think Lord is lying low and not piping up as much as they are the recruiter. Necro defending him makes sense, hes a roleless borg protecting his more useful ally. Im not quiting on this


Necro - Following from yesterday, when I feel him and Lord were defending eachother when the heat was on. Since then he has constantly urged me to race him ? Why is that? Getting heat off the recruiter ??? I smell wolf


Ms Flush - A non lyncher. I feel there is one wolf in that pack of 3 non lynchers, and she was the one who seemed most spooked when I started sniffing around the non lynchers. Shes not interacted much with the 2 names above and shes been very defensive. That enough for me

(honourable mention) - Suilli, the most likely one for me in the Mick voters. I feel they are a cunning wolf but not in my top 3 sadly. But will happy to vote for her.

Digi , for your and everyone elses reading pleasure!

Digital Solitude

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Apologies Necro, I was incorrect. You didn't want to race, however you do seem like your eager to be lynched, a sacrificial lamb/wolf?

Digi I did my FFA, look it up.

I saw it, I'm asking you to get off Necro and Lordys backs and try asking someone else a few questions. If you treat them as wolves you're going to interpret everything they do as a wolf ploy, which is why the argument has been going in circles.

If you're right on the two of them there's still three more wolves. Going to and fro for the next two days won't help us find them, and is making it easier for low posters to skate on too.

BJ welcome back, what do you think of the "No Voters"?

Guffy

Kolido wrote: »

If we think he is Q, then no ponit wasting a bullet on him. After all, keeping Q alive works best for the village in the end. If he is Q, just don't lnych him, use bullets on the wolf suspects.

Your right. Completely missed the win conditions.

Although im half wishing someone would put a bullet in pstar or necro to put a stop to this petty back and forth that looks like is going to play out for the day.

Necro

patrickSTARR wrote:

Hes not the only one. Mahama and myself seem to think of you in the same light.

You have your posse so

Digital Solitude

Today's going to be a long aul day I think.

Kolido

Can Pstar, necro and lordi get a room and hammer it out, lets move on to other suspects.

Barney92

Kolido wrote: »

Can Pstar, necro and lordi get a room and hammer it out, lets move on to other suspects.

Yes, I think at this stage everyone knows PStarr's suspicions about necro. It is clear for everyone to see at least. I do like the hounding of people though PStarr, I'd just like to see it spread around a bit more.

y0ssar1an22

WerewolfGM wrote: »

Vote Tally:

No Lynch – 3 Votes (MrsFlushdraw, Drumpot, Jayop)
Mick – 6 Votes (sKeith, Quickbeam, Beakerjoe, Sully, Kolido, Partjungle)
PartyJungle – 4 Votes (LordTSC, Guffy, Barney, Necro)
Mahamageehad – 2 Votes (Valeyard, Tritium)
Yossarian – 3 Votes (Ecto, Strawberry, Digi)
LordTSC – 1 Vote (PatrickStarr)
Strawberry – 1 Vote (Mahama)
Sullivo – 1 Vote (Yossar)
PatrickStarr – 1 Vote (Crosstown)
Did not vote - 2 - Grumpy, Mick

me mick and pj won the FFA. as far as the wolves are concerned we are all villagers (take my word for me , maybe 1 was q). therefore of the 3 they wouldn't care who was lynched. because of this they would have spread their votes, rather than lumping on 1.

beakerjoe

Digital Solitude wrote: »

I saw it, I'm asking you to get off Necro and Lordys backs and try asking someone else a few questions. If you treat them as wolves you're going to interpret everything they do as a wolf ploy, which is why the argument has been going in circles.

If you're right on the two of them there's still three more wolves. Going to and fro for the next two days won't help us find them, and is making it easier for low posters to skate on too.

BJ welcome back, what do you think of the "No Voters"?

Im not sure to be honest, my gut says its possible but not likely. Id say there are wolves amoung the PJ and Mick voters.

Whats your take on them?

patrickSTARR

I wont say another word until after lunch.

patrickSTARR

patrickSTARR wrote: »

I wont say another word until after lunch.

About Lord and Necro

mahamageehad

Necrominus wrote: »

You have your posse so

Woah woah woah, let's not be hasty here. I'm just asking questions.
I'm still not sure if p* is a wolf, or a mole.

There have been some interesting posts this morning, I need to reevaluate some of my village.

On the Vale thing, it reads a bit too wolfy to be a wolf, no?

Tomorrow evening the recruiting happens. Is it worth getting a roled character out before then so we get some info? Or is it still too early? I would say it might be best for vig and worf to use their powers before then just in case. If I'm reading right, they lose the powers so can't use them against us, but we still run the risk of losing them tomorrow after lynch.

Kolido

patrickSTARR wrote: »

I wont say another word until after lunch.

Lunch or Munch?

I think we draw some attention to those who were lone voters, would be easy to round out someone early in the day and run with it for the day and vote for them, give them a bit of an alibi. I will need to check back on yesterdays posts.

LordTSC – 1 Vote (PatrickStarr)
Strawberry – 1 Vote (Mahama)
Sullivo – 1 Vote (Yossar)
PatrickStarr – 1 Vote (Crosstown)

beakerjoe

Necro, we know your thoughts on the Mick votes, and who you suspect,

Out of all the PJ voters, whom do you suspect the most and why?

Barney92

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

me mick and pj won the FFA. as far as the wolves are concerned we are all villagers (take my word for me , maybe 1 was q). therefore of the 3 they wouldn't care who was lynched. because of this they would have spread their votes, rather than lumping on 1.

I would severely doubt more than three wolves voted for one person, but there's a good chance of two voting for one, especially if you are a wolf yoss. I don't believe you are, at the moment at least. But it would be plausible for people to vote mick or pj and save you.

grumpylumpy

Someone asked who I suspect so far

tbh I have very few opinions atm but what's stood out:
If Vale was Q I think he'd be more likely in here throwing around accusations than just being odd
MrsFD has been posting fluff and of the no lynch voters i'd have her as most likely to be bad
I didn't care for Sully's "I have my reasons" comment. Sounds like she's hinting at being a roled villager which reads wolfy to me

Ectoplasm

mahamageehad wrote: »

Tomorrow evening the recruiting happens. Is it worth getting a roled character out before then so we get some info? Or is it still too early? I would say it might be best for vig and worf to use their powers before then just in case. If I'm reading right, they lose the powers so can't use them against us, but we still run the risk of losing them tomorrow after lynch.

I have the same concerns regarding the recruitment:

Ectoplasm wrote: »

Just been re-reading posts and this one struck me. I'm not sure about the seer but in terms of the priest, the bit I've bolded struck me. I don't think we could trust a priest reveal after night 3 if a conversion happens. If the wolves nab the priest as their recruit then they will know the roles of the dead and can use that information against the village. The only possible confirmation would be if a seer had also peeked a dead player and what if the seer is dead. Then potentially two wolves claiming village roles. Is my logic wrong here?

Today is too soon but I definitely think this needs to be discussed tomorrow.

Necro

beakerjoe wrote:

Out of all the PJ voters, whom do you suspect the most and why?

I'll have a look back shortly and give you my thoughts. Just caught up in something at work at the moment. I know myself, Lordy and Guffy voted for PJ but there was a fourth I can't remember off the top of my head I think?

grumpylumpy

grumpylumpy wrote: »

Someone asked who I suspect so far

tbh I have very few opinions atm but what's stood out:
If Vale was Q I think he'd be more likely in here throwing around accusations than just being odd
MrsFD has been posting fluff and of the no lynch voters i'd have her as most likely to be bad
I didn't care for Sully's "I have my reasons" comment. Sounds like she's hinting at being a roled villager which reads wolfy to me

Also necro seems to be flailing a bit... crossed my mind he might be an over enthusiastic wolf who backed himself into a corner and is now trying to get out without being too obvious. But I'm happy to let him and P* have their own p*ssing contest over this

Ectoplasm

grumpylumpy wrote: »

Also necro seems to be flailing a bit... crossed my mind he might be an over enthusiastic wolf who backed himself into a corner and is now trying to get out without being too obvious. But I'm happy to let him and P* have their own p*ssing contest over this

Could this be wolf strategy. P* and Necro arguing back and forth to the point where everyone is ignoring them?

grumpylumpy

Ectoplasm wrote: »

Could this be wolf strategy. P* and Necro arguing back and forth to the point where everyone is ignoring them?

That would be pretty smart. Maybe we're giving them too much credit though

MrsFlushdraw

Digital Solitude wrote: »

I would also urge the bodyguard not to hint, based on Barney's logic.

Also, trying to keep others alive always looks Wolfy

Grumpy, Flushy and Sully, have you any reads you might share?

Since you didn't like my last attempt at reads I shall do it again. These reads change constantly throughout the game as people post and respond to other posters.

I have been concerned about Vale, apart from assuming captain and posting Log reports he hasn't really offered anything to the game. I think he is keeping in character to pay fan service and could very well be a wolf in hiding.

Patrickstarr who is hell bent on just attacking people - he latches on to a couple yesterday and again starts the same tactic. Could he be another wolf in hiding? trying too hard to be a villager hunting wolves?

Grumpy, twice she comes on and states she is not reading back BUT then says my posts are suss? that remark is surely suss. A wolf trying to feign disinterest in what happened at the start of the game perhaps?

sullivlo wrote: »

I'm currently reading the classic 1984 by Orwell. I'd like to share this reading with you:



If you meant in terms of reading the game, I have posted on this before. I believe that I have identified the vigilante. I also believe my posts have been telling in terms of timing etc.

Are you trying to get villager points by telling us you know who the vig is? Or are you trying to get the wolves to go back through all the posts to see if they can suss out who he is?

Not sure what you are saying with your posts been telling in terms of timing etc.

Digital Solitude

beakerjoe wrote: »

Im not sure to be honest, my gut says its possible but not likely. Id say there are wolves amoung the PJ and Mick voters.

Whats your take on them?

Ya wah? Most eventualities are possible but unlikely

I think MrsFDs very suss, far from having my mind made up there.

Drumpots had a villagery two days IMO

Jay is suss if only because he's only really posted about the no lynch situation, not very villager to me.

beakerjoe

Ectoplasm wrote: »

Could this be wolf strategy. P* and Necro arguing back and forth to the point where everyone is ignoring them?

It be a brave plan. Drawing attention to themselves wouldnt be a good idea if they were wolves. More likely to be seer checked.

Necro

grumpylumpy wrote:

Also necro seems to be flailing a bit... crossed my mind he might be an over enthusiastic wolf who backed himself into a corner and is now trying to get out without being too obvious. But I'm happy to let him and P* have their own p*ssing contest over this

Ectoplasm wrote:

Could this be wolf strategy. P* and Necro arguing back and forth to the point where everyone is ignoring them?

grumpylumpy wrote:

That would be pretty smart. Maybe we're giving them too much credit though

Definitely giving me too much credit anyways

Although I like this little love in with the lower posters. Keep up the stellar work

beakerjoe

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Ya wah? Most eventualities are possible but unlikely

I think MrsFDs very suss, far from having my mind made up there.

Drumpots had a villagery two days IMO

Jay is suss if only because he's only really posted about the no lynch situation, not very villager to me.

Jay is also still in bits from EP.

Flush is odd more than suss. Id like to hear more from them.

Ive no read on Drum yet.

Id like to hear more from Vale who i was suss of yday,

MrsFlushdraw

beakerjoe wrote: »

It be a brave plan. Drawing attention to themselves wouldnt be a good idea if they were wolves. More likely to be seer checked.

Unless they are the Queen?

grumpylumpy

Ahh here, I'm posting away, much to the disgrace of my team at work!

Barney92

Necrominus wrote: »

I'll have a look back shortly and give you my thoughts. Just caught up in something at work at the moment. I know myself, Lordy and Guffy voted for PJ but there was a fourth I can't remember off the top of my head I think?

I voted for pj too Necro.

grumpylumpy

beakerjoe wrote: »

Flush is odd more than suss. Id like to hear more from them.

,

To be fair, she's odd by default

Barney92

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

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Unless they are the Queen?

Yeah, one might be queen and if we are following that theory I reckon the other is a nameless borg.

I'm not on board with it just yet though.

Ectoplasm

beakerjoe wrote: »

It be a brave plan. Drawing attention to themselves wouldnt be a good idea if they were wolves. More likely to be seer checked.

This is true, I kinda forgot about seer checks My suspicions lie elsewhere for now but if I'm honest, I'm finding this one really hard to read. 5 wolves out there and I've not got even one suspect approaching 90% confirmed.

y0ssar1an22

beakerjoe wrote: »

Jay is also still in bits from EP.

Flush is odd more than suss. Id like to hear more from them.

Ive no read on Drum yet.

Id like to hear more from Vale who i was suss of yday,

how do you know that?

grumpylumpy

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

how do you know that?

Oooooooh snap

Ectoplasm

Necrominus wrote: »

Definitely giving me too much credit anyways

Although I like this little love in with the lower posters. Keep up the stellar work

Oh and just after I'd sort of defended you...

Mad notion, could it be I've more time today...and also that I don't feel the need to post for the sake of it due to my inherently good nature :P

beakerjoe

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

how do you know that?

Ive done EP before, its reasonable to assume hes in bits, it takes you a few days to be back to normal after 4 days of solid beering. Next

y0ssar1an22

beakerjoe wrote: »

Ive done EP before, its reasonable to assume hes in bits, it takes you a few days to be back to normal after 4 days of solid beering. Next

you can see how this might be interpreted?

Guffy

Barney92 wrote: »

Yeah, one might be queen and if we are following that theory I reckon the other is a nameless borg.

I'm not on board with it just yet though.

Honestly i think its a very far fetched theory. I just can't imagine to wolves going at it, with that intensity, for two days. Could 1 of them be a wolf? Sure. are both? I'd wager not. If one does turn up evil at some point the other should be the defacto leader


in saying that I'm not convinced either are wolf they could just as easy be two red shirts going at it.

patrickSTARR

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

how do you know that?

Jayop told everyone here yesterday that he was in EP.

Lord TSC

Guffy wrote: »

Honestly i think its a very far fetched theory. I just can't imagine to wolves going at it, with that intensity, for two days..

I couldn't. Even now, after everyone told the duo to shut up about it, everyone else is STILL running with it. If it was a tactic, its working to the extent its still drowning out everything else....

y0ssar1an22

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Jayop told everyone here yesterday that he was in EP.

the way BJ said it, its like he knew jayo was in bits. like they had a chat about it somewhere.

Necro

beakerjoe wrote:

Out of all the PJ voters, whom do you suspect the most and why?

I'm tempted to say Lord to be honest :P
But let's not drag up the conspiracy nonsense again.

Out of the 4 I would say Guffy. Not that I have a read on him he's the one I've seen the least from that's all.

I know I'm good.

Barney COULD be a clever wolf organising the strategy yesterday then backing away but I'm not getting that vibe off him.

No read on Lord but a few are happy to put him in the good books so far. Not saying that's what I think though it's a neutral read.

Guffy by process of elimination (and he wanted me or P* shot, potentially wasting our last bullet on a villager).
Screw you Guffy I'm going nowhere :P

Barney92

Guffy wrote: »

Honestly i think its a very far fetched theory. I just can't imagine to wolves going at it, with that intensity, for two days. Could 1 of them be a wolf? Sure. are both? I'd wager not. If one does turn up evil at some point the other should be the defacto leader


in saying that I'm not convinced either are wolf they could just as easy be two red shirts going at it.

Oh I think it's more likely that neither are wolves than both are guffy. I was just putting forward the likelihood that if they were both wolves one would be queen and the other a borg.

Lord TSC

* I could (imagine it)

mahamageehad

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

you can see how this might be interpreted?

Very nice catch there y0ss.
The way that was phrased was dodge-malodge.
Sounds like he was discussing with Jay in a backroom.
He didn't say "Jayop is probably still dying...", nope he said it with certainty.

Welcome to my hit list BJ and Jayo.

Necro

Ectoplasm wrote:

Mad notion, could it be I've more time today...and also that I don't feel the need to post for the sake of it due to my inherently good nature

:P don't defend me or you'll be accused of collusion :pac:

grumpylumpy

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Jayop told everyone here yesterday that he was in EP.

Did he ever say on thread he was in bits though?

crosstownk

grumpylumpy wrote: »

Did he ever say on thread he was in bits though?

I don't recall but what Yoss highlighted above "...is still in bits..." does sound like it came from a very recent conversation and I don't think Jayop has mentioned anything today about being still in recovery from EP.

Ectoplasm

Jayop did say he was sick as a dog yesterday but only one post this morning and no mention of illness today.