Werewolf XVI - Star Trek

beakerjoe

mahamageehad wrote: »

Very nice catch there y0ss.
The way that was phrased was dodge-malodge.
Sounds like he was discussing with Jay in a backroom.
He didn't say "Jayop is probably still dying...", nope he said it with certainty.

Welcome to my hit list BJ and Jayo.

Hello Hitlist.

I said it based on my own experience. But believe what you like.

Guffy

Necrominus wrote: »

Guffy by process of elimination (and he wanted me or P* shot, potentially wasting our last bullet on a villager).
Screw you Guffy I'm going nowhere :P

I just wanted the chance to shine necro :P also can we please install a sarcasm button on boards

grumpylumpy

Yep, and it was said with certainty.

Oops!

That's going on the FFA

beakerjoe

Ectoplasm wrote: »

Jayop did say he was sick as a dog yesterday but only one post this morning and no mention of illness today.

So it be safe to assume hes not posting because hes still under the weather.

crosstownk

beakerjoe wrote: »

So it be safe to assume hes not posting because hes still under the weather.

I think what's in question here is not Jayop's current state of health - it's more your perceived informed knowledge of it.

patrickSTARR

Jayop wrote: »

Good afternoon fellow passengers. As was mentioned by a few of you who paid attention I was at ep and as expected I am sick as an intergalactic pig today. I had a quick read of the thread just now. Not an awful lot stood out to me.

1) by and large I'd ignore the q character. No way of knowing if it's still in play or of they won. If it's obvious that someone is trying to get lynched then yeah say so, but otherwise it's just going g to be a massive distraction that we have no real control over. Half the players will be lynched at some stage so really it's hard to do anything about it.

2) that said Patrick looks to be working hard to get himself killed.

3) some cold **** killing a noob first. Only a few players would do that I think.

Id say its fair to assume Jay is still hungover

Baggly

*Mod Note*

Gang, if there was anything meta being said myself and Molly would be all over it like doggo's on doggo biscuits.

Keep playing on please.

Necro

Guffy wrote:

I just wanted the chance to shine necro also can we please install a sarcasm button on boards

It's a tongue in cheek comment myself, hence the :P

I don't actually have a Wolfy feeling about any of the PJ voters but I was asked for my opinion. And have it

We can dance later if you like :pac:

Ectoplasm

beakerjoe wrote: »

So it be safe to assume hes not posting because hes still under the weather.

It might be worth speculating that that's the reason but you did say it like it was a fact...

y0ssar1an22

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Id say its fair to assume Jay is still hungover

that was yesterday at 4.30pm

mahamageehad

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Id say its fair to assume Jay is still hungover

Careful there P*, that could be seen as you coming to his defence.

patrickSTARR

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

that was yesterday at 4.30pm

You've obviously never been to EP.

I was at it myself, left Sunday night and Im still feeling awful today. Id think Jay was still hurting today

Necro

Can I just say that while we are hyper sensitive about everything everybody says, let's not bring meta into this too much lads and ladies. I say this as someone who has both BJ and Jayop on my FFA.

I can't believe I'm being the voice of reason here. What the hell is wrong with me :pac:

beakerjoe

Ectoplasm wrote: »

It might be worth speculating that that's the reason but you did say it like it was a fact...

I speculated, he said he was sick yesterday. Jeez, thats the last time I show anyone here any leeway for not posting much.

beakerjoe

patrickSTARR wrote: »

You've obviously never been to EP.

I was at it myself, left Sunday night and Im still feeling awful today. Id think Jay was still hurting today

This!

mahamageehad

Necrominus wrote: »

Can I just say that while we are hyper sensitive about everything everybody says, let's not bring meta into this too much lads and ladies. I say this as someone who has both BJ and Jayop on my FFA.

I can't believe I'm being the voice of reason here. What the hell is wrong with me :pac:

?? I don't see how discussing this is meta?

The fact that BJ asserted something as fact, when it isn't fact on thread, is weird, and feels like a backroom slip to me. Jay's hangover or lack thereof is actually irrelevant. It's the phrasing BJ used here in a post, so I dunno how that could be meta?

grumpylumpy

crosstownk wrote: »

I think what's in question here is not Jayop's current state of health - it's more your perceived informed knowledge of it.

There's assuming and there's stating fact though. There was no "I can only assume jay's still in bits having been to EP myself before"

Barney92

Necrominus wrote: »

Can I just say that while we are hyper sensitive about everything everybody says, let's not bring meta into this too much lads and ladies. I say this as someone who has both BJ and Jayop on my FFA.

I can't believe I'm being the voice of reason here. What the hell is wrong with me :pac:

Enough of that reason talk Necro. I did not think Electric Picnic would appear on anyone's FFA but it seems it might.

Necro

mahamageehad wrote:

The fact that BJ asserted something as fact, when it isn't fact on thread, is weird, and feels like a backroom slip to me. Jay's hangover or lack thereof is actually irrelevant. It's the phrasing BJ used here in a post, so I dunno how that could be meta?

Well... Bringing up EP in the first place was meta imo. These things can steamroll until something else breaks the game. Just wanted to get that out there. That's all.

Barney92

mahamageehad wrote: »

?? I don't see how discussing this is meta?

The fact that BJ asserted something as fact, when it isn't fact on thread, is weird, and feels like a backroom slip to me. Jay's hangover or lack thereof is actually irrelevant. It's the phrasing BJ used here in a post, so I dunno how that could be meta?

This is exactly it mahama. It's about BJ's writing on thread, not about Jayop being or going to EP.

beakerjoe

grumpylumpy wrote: »

There's assuming and there's stating fact though. There was no "I can only assume jay's still in bits having been to EP myself before"

Well apologies for not wording it different. But I assume hes still feeling the effects of the Picnic.

Guffy

Necrominus wrote: »

Well... Bringing up EP in the first place was meta imo. These things can steamroll until something else breaks the game. Just wanted to get that out there. That's all.

Once its introduced to the thread it's fair game imo.

Necro

Guffy wrote:

Once its introduced to the thread it's fair game imo.

Ok, look I'll drop it. Unless the mods intervene there's obviously not a problem so no point labouring the point.

beakerjoe

Guffy wrote: »

Once its introduced to the thread it's fair game imo.

Even though its against me, Id agree.

patrickSTARR

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

you can see how this might be interpreted?

Yoss, you and Guffy seem very cosy? Why is that?

mahamageehad

Guffy wrote: »

Once its introduced to the thread it's fair game imo.

I agree, for me meta would be someone saying they saw him post elsewhere (another forum or FB for eg) about Picnic, but since he said it here on thread, it's common knowledge within the game universe so therefore not meta imo. I appreciate your point Necro, but in this case I genuinely don't see how it could snowball to being game breaky.

That's all I'll say on it for now til I use it in my FFA later.
That's if we are FFAing later? I would still like to do it. I'm hoping to grab a few mins later to update my leans.

MrsFlushdraw

beakerjoe wrote: »

Jay is also still in bits from EP.

Flush is odd more than suss. Id like to hear more from them.

Ive no read on Drum yet.

Id like to hear more from Vale who i was suss of yday,

You can hear from me for the next 5 hours and then I have a secret mission to go get answers for the captain. I will be keeping touch.

But feel free to ask away

Necro

mahamageehad wrote:

I agree, for me meta would be someone saying they saw him post elsewhere (another forum or FB for eg) about Picnic, but since he said it here on thread, it's common knowledge within the game universe so therefore not meta imo. I appreciate your point Necro, but in this case I genuinely don't see how it could snowball to being game breaky.

Okie doke. Just looking out for the game so unless there's a modulator intervention you'll hear nothing more from me on this.

Guffy

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

You can hear from me for the next 5 hours and then I have a secret mission to go get answers for the captain. I will be keeping touch.

But feel free to ask away

Whats your opinions on the situation to date and thoughts on any characters that stand out to you?

WerewolfGM

MOD CLARIFICATION.

Ok, we are going to nip this in the bud right now.

No matter who was wherever, everyone stop talking about external events. Also stop talking about talking about external events. You want to talk about post counts or activity levels on thread, go nuts. No further warnings will be given.

BJ, your choice of words was ambiguous, but you shouldn't be talking about EP at all in any context. Jayop shouldn't have either really.

Everyone else, we took that as speculation, but to be honest we are cutting that out right now. Any further talk of external lives will be  HARSHLY PUNISHED including but not limited to public shamings.

I will remind you of rule 8

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]8) Don’t take things personally or talk about your real life, players should stay in character at all times and understand any and all abuse is in character, don't bother telling the other players about your real life issues just play as you can.[/font]

patrickSTARR

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

You can hear from me for the next 5 hours and then I have a secret mission to go get answers for the captain. I will be keeping touch.

But feel free to ask away

Who do you suspect out of the other non lynchers? do you accept their reasons for not lynching?

patrickSTARR

Guffy wrote: »

Whats your opinions on the situation to date and thoughts on any characters that stand out to you?

Guffy, after reading through Yossers posts, do you know why he might be defending you. He seemed to defend you a bit yesterday?

Baggly

mahamageehad wrote: »

I agree, for me meta would be someone saying they saw him post elsewhere (another forum or FB for eg) about Picnic, but since he said it here on thread, it's common knowledge within the game universe so therefore not meta imo. I appreciate your point Necro, but in this case I genuinely don't see how it could snowball to being game breaky.

That's all I'll say on it for now til I use it in my FFA later.
That's if we are FFAing later? I would still like to do it. I'm hoping to grab a few mins later to update my leans.

Necrominus wrote: »

Okie doke. Just looking out for the game so unless there's a modulator intervention you'll hear nothing more from me on this.

*MOD NOTE*

Guys, going to add to this - if you are unsure about whether something is meta or not, PM us. Lots of people are PMing questions already, and they got timely responses.

Even if you are just a little bit unsure, PM us.

Necro is right in terms of we all need to remember this is a game and we need to protect it as much as take part in it.

Mahama, appreciate you dont think it could snowball, but people rarely do before something gets broke. If you are anywhere near the border of uncertainty, PM us.

That will be the end of the public discussion on this topic.

MrsFlushdraw

Guffy wrote: »

Whats your opinions on the situation to date and thoughts on any characters that stand out to you?

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Who do you suspect out of the other non lynchers? do you accept their reasons for not lynching?

Please refer to my earlier post on the people I suspect. At the moment nothing has changed.

I would scroll back to find it,but you are both big enough to do that. I was less than an hour ago.

That is the third time today I have been asked the same thing. I have posted thoughts twice. Now back off wolves.

Guffy

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Guffy, after reading through Yossers posts, do you know why he might be defending you. He seemed to defend you a bit yesterday?

He did, not a clue. But i wasnt going o stop him either.

Maybe you just had a weak argument that had a lot of holes in it?

mahamageehad

Sorry modulators.

To move swiftly along, I'd like to throw out a new theory.
P* is actually the queen of the borgwolves.
P*, what say you?

MrsFlushdraw

patrickSTARR wrote: »

Who do you suspect out of the other non lynchers? do you accept their reasons for not lynching?

TBH when I posted I was doing a no lynch I was on the run. I didn't read cosely enough to the others reasons. Reason being, I don't think wolves would make a show if themselves that easily.

ALSO I think I was the first person to vote. Meaning it was genuine and just not picking someone for the craic. Which I never like doing.

Drumpot

I voted Quickbeam for tonight . . Might not be around today or before munch to respond because I have to get back to work in the holodeck and have in laws over in my quarters from around 5pm . .

I think Vale is playing a dodgy game. Where is he ? He voted for Meham - posts one thing (1404) and disappears, very odd . . BAD?

I didn't like Necro, Lord, Sulli and QB being so adamant about the shot last night . . They didn't like me challenging them and suggesting an alternative strategy (wait until today). I wasn't sure about PJ myself, but didn't see the benefit of killing him last night. Some people are asking PStarr to hold off his rants until later, which is exactly what I was asking people to do with PJ (who is asking PStarr to hold off?). If they are on the above list of people pushing for the PJ kill, why didn't you afford PJ the same courtesy ? (stop talking about him and move on until lynch tonight).

Lord TSC

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

Please refer to my earlier post on the people I suspect. At the moment nothing has changed.

I would scroll back to find it,but you are both big enough to do that. I was less than an hour ago.

That is the third time today I have been asked the same thing. I have posted thoughts twice. Now back off wolves.

Yes, but who do you suspect?

patrickSTARR

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

Please refer to my earlier post on the people I suspect. At the moment nothing has changed.

I would scroll back to find it,but you are both big enough to do that. I was less than an hour ago.

That is the third time today I have been asked the same thing. I have posted thoughts twice. Now back off wolves.

So you don't suspect Jay or Drumpot for not lynching like yourself, why are they not suss?

patrickSTARR

Drumpot wrote: »

I voted Quickbeam for tonight . . Might not be around today or before munch to respond because I have to get back to work in the holodeck and have in laws over in my quarters from around 5pm . .

I find it odd that you already have voted tonight, yet didn't lynch last night?

patrickSTARR

mahamageehad wrote: »

Sorry modulators.

To move swiftly along, I'd like to throw out a new theory.
P* is actually the queen of the borgwolves.
P*, what say you?

I say Ive no crown on my head, nor am I of Borg Kind.

Help me understand where you came up with your theory?

tritium

beakerjoe wrote: »

Ive done EP before, its reasonable to assume hes in bits, it takes you a few days to be back to normal after 4 days of solid beering. Next

Ah no now. You said he is in bits not he's probably still in bits

Way i see it theres two lists that arise from your statement. The list with you and Jayop and the list with the first 2-3 people who jumped on ypur statement

Given the Q factor against yourself it might be prudent to consider Jay for lynch ro see whay the throws up

patrickSTARR

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

TBH when I posted I was doing a no lynch I was on the run. I didn't read cosely enough to the others reasons. Reason being, I don't think wolves would make a show if themselves that easily.

ALSO I think I was the first person to vote. Meaning it was genuine and just not picking someone for the craic. Which I never like doing.

Can you prove you were first person to vote?

MrsFlushdraw

Lord TSC wrote: »

Yes, but who do you suspect?

SEE MY POST ON IT

patrickSTARR wrote: »

So you don't suspect Jay or Drumpot for not lynching like yourself, why are they not suss?

We arent allowed to talk about it - re Jay
no clue re drumpot and as I stated I dont think wolves will hide there.

I know I am getting rattled here but answering the same questions over and over gets up my goat.

SO I will be ignoring them from now on.

Drumpot

patrickSTARR wrote: »

I find it odd that you already have voted tonight, yet didn't lynch last night?

My notes on you:


Pstarr – More likely a villager who looks as manic as I can look in the game sometimes. Don’t see any obvious alliance so if wolf, it’s a rogue wolf role play

But post 538 seems to be trying to shake a few trees - Challanging Lord and NEcro - GOOD ? Too boisterous to be bad and looks on his own or wolf plan to lynch him to get credibility for the people he is accusing ? post 1237 accuse lord and necro - going after non lynchers - bit just blinkered?

mahamageehad

patrickSTARR wrote: »

I say Ive no crown on my head, nor am I of Borg Kind.

Help me understand where you came up with your theory?

Ah no, now that would only help you figure out a way to wiggle out of the evidence. What have you done to prove you're a villager?

beakerjoe

Drumpot wrote: »

I didn't like Necro, Lord, Sulli and QB being so adamant about the shot last night . . They didn't like me challenging them and suggesting an alternative strategy (wait until today). I wasn't sure about PJ myself, but didn't see the benefit of killing him last night. Some people are asking PStarr to hold off his rants until later, which is exactly what I was asking people to do with PJ (who is asking PStarr to hold off?). If they are on the above list of people pushing for the PJ kill, why didn't you afford PJ the same courtesy ? (stop talking about him and move on until lynch tonight).

Great post,

Necro

Hang on now Drumpot, this might come across as me defending QB but I seem to recall me have an at length argument with her on the merits of shooting now VS waiting for the lynch.
I'll admit I was on the side of calling for the shot. But I stand by it. We'd be talking about it all day today instead of getting more discussion going.

Now, granted. P* and myself have taken up a lot of pages with our back and forth but there's also been some worthwhile discussion which may not have happened had we did it your way.

Also I believe Digi should be on your list as calling for the shot or is there a reason you deliberately left him off in place of QB??

Digital Solitude

beakerjoe wrote: »

Great post,

Would be better with more consistency imo

Voting BJ tonight