Werewolf XVI - Star Trek

sullivlo

quickbeam wrote: »

Are you saying you don't believe MrsF?

I'm saying nowt.

sullivlo

quickbeam wrote: »

Are you saying you don't believe MrsF?

Okay. Yes. I'm saying I don't believe mrsf. I'm sure that someone here can back me up.

MrsFlushdraw

sullivlo wrote: »

I wish we had the crying laughing emoji on boards, or the clapping hands, or the wolfie one. I'd use all three here. Bravo.

Are you saying you don't believe me?

sullivlo

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

Are you saying you don't believe me?

Look up, wolfy

Barney92

Necrominus wrote: »

Or we could just shoot me and if Flushy is lying the shot won't happen.

That plus you get your popcorn fantasy scenario played out in a real life game:P

I don't want you dead for the sake of it necro. In fact I don't think I want you dead at all.

Necro

Necrominus wrote:

Or we could just shoot me and if Flushy is lying the shot won't happen.

By the way, this was sarcasm. Not actively looking to be shot with our last bullet.

tritium

sullivlo wrote: »

Look up, wolfy

There are lots of reasons why you could be right or wrong on this though....

MrsFlushdraw

sullivlo wrote: »

Okay. Yes. I'm saying I don't believe mrsf. I'm sure that someone here can back me up.

Oh this sounds very interesting

*pulls chair up, grabs popcorn*

Barney92

sullivlo wrote: »

Look up, wolfy

This makes more sense to me now. If you think she's lying then yes you would be confused.

Why would FD lie though? Outing herself to try out the vigilante? Seems a bizarre move. Wolves lose a player and the vigilante wouldn't even need to come out. They would just shoot MrsFD. Hmmm.

MrsFlushdraw

Necrominus wrote: »

By the way, this was sarcasm. Not actively looking to be shot with our last bullet.

It may already have a target Necro...

mahamageehad

Barney92 wrote: »

I am a bit wary of Sulli's motives for saying she had spied the vigilante and saying that the wolves probably knew too. However, it seems a bit strange she didn't recognize MrsFD's role claim.

Thinking about it, would Sulli be trying to flush MrsFD out? They still had a bullet left and by doing so it would risk MrsFD coming out and shooting Sulli dead. Plus for the wolves because they found the vigilante, but they no longer have bullets and they lose a wolf in the process. By not trying to draw them out, MrsFD could just shoot someone blindly and kill a villager.

Sulli, were you wrong in who you thought was vig? Also I reckon it might be safe enough to say who you thought it was? Maybe hold off for a few hours. If MrsFD is lying then the vig could shoot them dead and not have to come out publicly.

Barney raises an excellent point. It would be a little foolhardy for Sulli, as a wolf, to bait Flush in that way. It is completely possible that Sulli just picked up hints wrong and thought a player was rolled that wasn't.

sullivlo wrote: »

Okay. Yes. I'm saying I don't believe mrsf. I'm sure that someone here can back me up.

Interesting. The lady speaks in riddles, but I'm inclined to keep listening.

I'm finding it hard to believe Flush is lying though too. I mean, to my eyes there was hardly any pressure put on her before she cracked like Humpty Dumpty. If she's lying, to what end?

Necro

beakerjoe wrote:

Necros most recent posts dont fill me with any sort of reason not to vote for him, however the argument for voting for him is not solid. Patrick makes a loud case, but its just a theory and its nothing concrete no matter how many times he repeats it.

My recent posts are a result of fatigue for arguing till I'm blue in the face the same point over and over and over and over and over and...

You get the point. I'm not wasting time on it anymore (said this already but I mean it this time)

Lord TSC

Ach, I had been sure of Sully but I don't agree at all with that one.

MrsFlushdraw

sullivlo wrote: »

Look up, wolfy

Come on Sully, waiting patiently here?

mahamageehad

Barney92 wrote: »

This makes more sense to me now. If you think she's lying then yes you would be confused.

Why would FD lie though? Outing herself to try out the vigilante? Seems a bizarre move. Wolves lose a player and the vigilante wouldn't even need to come out. They would just shoot MrsFD. Hmmm.

I can't think of any reasonable explanations as to why Flush would lie.
I'll admit, I didn't get the reveal at all, I have no Star Trek references.

So, scenarios as I see them, am I missing any?:
(a) Flush is who she says she is
(b) Flush is a wolf, claiming this role for ****s and giggles. That'd be stupid, coz real vig would just shoot her.
(c) Flush is a NRV claiming this role for some reason. Again stupid coz vig would just shoot her.
(d) Flush is Q looking to cause trouble

sullivlo

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

Come on Sully, waiting patiently here?

I don't believe you're the vig. Like I said, will gladly put my hands up and say that I'm wrong IF I am proven wrong.

But in my opinion I am correct.

I'm star trekking across the universe today. Party with the krazy klingons tonight so will be putting a vote in early.

I've sped read the day since munch to thread close so won't be posting much. Need to read it all again.

MrsFlushdraw

sullivlo wrote: »

Okay. Yes. I'm saying I don't believe mrsf. I'm sure that someone here can back me up.

sullivlo wrote: »

Look up, wolfy

sullivlo wrote: »

I don't believe you're the vig. Like I said, will gladly put my hands up and say that I'm wrong IF I am proven wrong.

But in my opinion I am correct.

You seem so sure. Give me one good reason not to shoot you?

mahamageehad

sullivlo wrote: »

I don't believe you're the vig. Like I said, will gladly put my hands up and say that I'm wrong IF I am proven wrong.

But in my opinion I am correct.

If you don't believe she's the vig, do you believe she's a misguided villager, Q or a wolf?

What was the aim of your line of comments about knowing who the vig is today and yesterday?

Barney92

mahamageehad wrote: »

I can't think of any reasonable explanations as to why Flush would lie.
I'll admit, I didn't get the reveal at all, I have no Star Trek references.

So, scenarios as I see them, am I missing any?:
(a) Flush is who she says she is
(b) Flush is a wolf, claiming this role for ****s and giggles. That'd be stupid, coz real vig would just shoot her.
(c) Flush is a NRV claiming this role for some reason. Again stupid coz vig would just shoot her.
(d) Flush is Q looking to cause trouble

They are the four main possibilities. I hope it's not c because we would waste a bullet and lose a villager. I doubt MrsFD would do that as she would surely know that would be the outcome. d would also see her being shot by the real vig.

My secret possibility (e) is that the shaman gave something to the vig (not knowing it was the vig) that allowed them to communicate with one person. They chose MrsFD, who thankfully was a villager, and decided to sacrifice herself to keep the vig alive. So the vig wouldn't shoot her despite a false claim and the wolves might try to munch her. It is far fetched but I don't really know what the shaman can do.

TLDR - I think MrsFD is the real vig. Nothing else makes much sense to me. But I don't think sulli is evil (yet).

sullivlo

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

You seem so sure. Give me one good reason not to shoot you?

Because it would be a waste of a bullet?

patrickSTARR

mahamageehad wrote: »

I think you're barking up the wrong tree with at least one of these.

Interestingly, if Sulli is bad, and you're pushing on her now, would that make you good, or would that make you a wolf with no choice?

It makes the village a wolf lighter

sullivlo

mahamageehad wrote: »

If you don't believe she's the vig, do you believe she's a misguided villager, Q or a wolf?

What was the aim of your line of comments about knowing who the vig is today and yesterday?

I think mrsf is a wolf.

My line of comments yesterday and today about the vig was something I picked up on by a poster. I don't want to break the rules (for fear of having to think about uriels johnson) so that's all I'm willing to say.

beakerjoe

Necrominus wrote: »

My recent posts are a result of fatigue for arguing till I'm blue in the face the same point over and over and over and over and over and...

You get the point. I'm not wasting time on it anymore (said this already but I mean it this time)

Then use your energy to help the village. Your sob story is annoying. TSC is in same triangle, yet they get on with it.

beakerjoe

mahamageehad wrote: »

I can't think of any reasonable explanations as to why Flush would lie.
I'll admit, I didn't get the reveal at all, I have no Star Trek references.

So, scenarios as I see them, am I missing any?:
(a) Flush is who she says she is
(b) Flush is a wolf, claiming this role for ****s and giggles. That'd be stupid, coz real vig would just shoot her.
(c) Flush is a NRV claiming this role for some reason. Again stupid coz vig would just shoot her.
(d) Flush is Q looking to cause trouble

A seems the most likely IMO

mahamageehad

Barney92 wrote: »

They are the four main possibilities. I hope it's not c because we would waste a bullet and lose a villager. I doubt MrsFD would do that as she would surely know that would be the outcome. d would also see her being shot by the real vig.

My secret possibility (e) is that the shaman gave something to the vig (not knowing it was the vig) that allowed them to communicate with one person. They chose MrsFD, who thankfully was a villager, and decided to sacrifice herself to keep the vig alive. So the vig wouldn't shoot her despite a false claim and the wolves might try to munch her. It is far fetched but I don't really know what the shaman can do.

TLDR - I think MrsFD is the real vig. Nothing else makes much sense to me. But I don't think sulli is evil (yet).

I don't think (e) is a runner tbh based on a few comments I read at the start of the thread. There is a person that has a comms though.

patrickSTARR wrote: »

It makes the village a wolf lighter

You must have some pair of legs on ya with all your skirting! :P

Kolido

Barney92 wrote: »

They are the four main possibilities. I hope it's not c because we would waste a bullet and lose a villager. I doubt MrsFD would do that as she would surely know that would be the outcome. d would also see her being shot by the real vig.

My secret possibility (e) is that the shaman gave something to the vig (not knowing it was the vig) that allowed them to communicate with one person. They chose MrsFD, who thankfully was a villager, and decided to sacrifice herself to keep the vig alive. So the vig wouldn't shoot her despite a false claim and the wolves might try to munch her. It is far fetched but I don't really know what the shaman can do.

TLDR - I think MrsFD is the real vig. Nothing else makes much sense to me. But I don't think sulli is evil (yet).

F.) sulli had comms with the real vig and Flushy was passed a perk( perhaps a bullet) by shaman and is really a wolf?

Barney92

mahamageehad wrote: »

I don't think (e) is a runner tbh based on a few comments I read at the start of the thread. There is a person that has a comms though.


You must have some pair of legs on ya with all your skirting! :P

Oh I agree it is farfetched. I just wanted to make sure every single avenue was explored.

Ectoplasm

Jeez you take a break to eat and it all kicks off. I don't know who is lying and who isn't BUT I did find Mrs FDs reveal odd.

Barney92

Kolido wrote: »

F.) sulli had comms with the real vig and Flushy was passed a perk( perhaps a bullet) by shaman and is really a wolf?

Seems in my coming up with bizarre scenarios, I forgot this one. Slightly less likely than (e) but still possible I suppose. Very unlikely, but possible.