Electric Picnic 2018 **Discussion Only // No Ticket Sales** [Part 1]

Wooderson

If the Picnic booked more than one of this quintet of doom (Libs/Kings of Leon/Killers/Kasabian/Kaisers) then they can kiss the positive equity of a couple 1000 regulars goodbye.

Seathrun66

Wooderson wrote: »

If the Picnic booked more than one of this quintet of doom (Libs/Kings of Leon/Killers/Kasabian/Kaisers) then they can kiss the positive equity of a couple 1000 regulars goodbye.

A bit harsh on the Libertines? A great live band. As for the rest.....

tonto123

Wooderson wrote: »

If the Picnic booked more than one of this quintet of doom (Libs/Kings of Leon/Killers/Kasabian/Kaisers) then they can kiss the positive equity of a couple 1000 regulars goodbye.

they booked florence sam smith and blur in 2015 so not much difference really... ... and lana del rey , years and years and the 1975 in 2016

Ricosruffneck

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Surely the Live Nation/Festival Republic connection works in EP's favour. Surprisingly we don't get a great many shared acts with Reading/Leeds but a fair chance we'll have Kendrick this year.

It's just looking at the history of headliners of both fests and it doens't favour Kendrick showing at EP.

But with the amount of fests that Kendrick is doing it's not impossible.

Although i think Leeds/reading will be his last before he goes back stateside.

Personally i'd really like to see him.

BullBlackNova

tonto123 wrote: »

they booked florence sam smith and blur in 2015 so not much difference really... ... and lana del rey , years and years and the 1975 in 2016

One of these things is not like the others...

tonto123

BullBlackNova wrote: »

One of these things is not like the others...

each to their own but id rather the libertines at a festival im headed too than sam smith or the 1975 but as i said absolutely each to their own... totally see your point on the other bands as they are so mainstream

Wooderson

tonto123 wrote: »

they booked florence sam smith and blur in 2015 so not much difference really... ... and lana del rey , years and years and the 1975 in 2016

I would disagree with you here. Blur are in a different league to the aforementioned shower.

BullBlackNova

tonto123 wrote: »

each to their own but id rather the libertines at a festival im headed too than sam smith or the 1975 but as i said absolutely each to their own... totally see your point on the other bands as they are so mainstream

I agree with you there - Libs over Sam Smith, 1975, etc for sure. But Blur are in a different league to any of those.

No issue with mainstream by any stretch - just that the Killers, the Kaisers (and the Kooks and their ilk!) are all just really dull IMO.

Wooderson

Kaisers are the f9cking dregs.

Seathrun66

Ricosruffneck wrote: »

It's just looking at the history of headliners of both fests and it doens't favour Kendrick showing at EP.

But with the amount of fests that Kendrick is doing it's not impossible.

Although i think Leeds/reading will be his last before he goes back stateside.

Personally i'd really like to see him.

Glasgow Summer Sessions on Wed 29 August so surely increases the chances? Be nice for him to finish his tour in Stradbally.

Ricosruffneck

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Glasgow Summer Sessions on Wed 29 August so surely increases the chances? Be nice for him to finish his tour in Stradbally.

oops I mentioned Glasgow summer sessions before in the thread, forgot to add there as his final date.

Basically; if Belfast Vital announce him in the next while then it's game over man.. game over.

But hey, no one knows apart from the booking team.

Who's your ideas for the three headliners?

ghostdancer

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Surely the Live Nation/Festival Republic connection works in EP's favour. Surprisingly we don't get a great many shared acts with Reading/Leeds but a fair chance we'll have Kendrick this year.

yep, booking acts in package deals is a common thing, although R&L and EP rarely shared acts that would have suited both festivals.
seems to be becoming more common now that artists are looking for bigger gig fees to counteract smaller album income.

i wouldn't have said EP and R&L are rivals either, very few similarities between the festivals or attendees, not to mention being in different countries.

Fatfrog

Wooderson wrote: »

Kaisers are the f9cking dregs.

"We're struggling for lyrics on this new song Ricky"
"Don't worry lads created some banging lyrics at the weekend.... ahaaa ahhhaaaa ahaaaaaaa Ahaaaaa"

Ricosruffneck

ghostdancer wrote: »

yep, booking acts in package deals is a common thing, although R&L and EP rarely shared acts that would have suited both festivals.
seems to be becoming more common now that artists are looking for bigger gig fees to counteract smaller album income.

i wouldn't have said EP and R&L are rivals either, very few similarities between the festivals or attendees, not to mention being in different countries.

It's not so much being 'rivals' as they're owned by the same parent company and their aim is to make as much money as possible.

For example.

My GF wanted to see Eminem in 2017 as he wasn't playing Electric Picnic for which I had tickets for.

My options were, go to Reading/leeds or go to a stand alone gig in Glasgow (also ran by Live Nation).

The way headliners are laid out in fests are to also attract people from other countries/other festivals with exclusivities.

Now the result is i'm going to two fests/ or one fest and one stand alone gig.

Either way Live Nation have now made more Revenue.

Seathrun66

Ricosruffneck wrote: »

oops I mentioned Glasgow summer sessions before in the thread, forgot to add there as his final date.

Basically; if Belfast Vital announce him in the next while then it's game over man.. game over.

But hey, no one knows apart from the booking team.

Who's your ideas for the three headliners?

Unfortunately I'd say that Belfast is more likely but I live in hope.

Who I'd love: Kendrick, Tame Impala, Arcade Fire

Who's more likely: Arctic Monkeys, Lorde, Bjork

Rfrip

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Unfortunately I'd say that Belfast is more likely but I live in hope.

Who I'd love: Kendrick, Tame Impala, Arcade Fire

Who's more likely: Arctic Monkeys, Lorde, Bjork

I’d be delighted with smashing pumpkins and your three

Along with Francis and the lights, royscopp and Robyn I’d be delighted!

johnnyskeleton

BullBlackNova wrote: »

I know that'd be a very popular decision with some people, but that'd be my idea of absolute hell for a festival line-up.

As in it's not so much about who is playing as it is who is not playing? I almost prefer festivals with headliners that I don't particularly like as it usually means that I can either see my favourite bands in smaller tents or else I can wander around and see something new. But it doesn't bother me if bands that I don't like are playing the same festival.

Is the point that such bands would attract a different crowd to EP?

johnnyskeleton

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Quite likely i'd say, be surprised if St. Vincent isn't on the lineup too. Big enough for the main stage at this point?

Maybe David Byrne as well. They're both playing Coachella and they released an album together a few years ago and played EP in 2013. A David Bryne, St Vincent, the two together or some combo would be brilliant.

everlast75

Arne_Saknussem

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Maybe David Byrne as well. They're both playing Coachella and they released an album together a few years ago and played EP in 2013. A David Bryne, St Vincent, the two together or some combo would be brilliant.

As much as i'd love it, it's looking unlikely. He's in Europe until mid July and then back to the US with his last listed date in RedRocks, August 28th.

Not impossible i suppose, be very disappointing if we don't get any Irish gig on the new tour.

Seathrun66

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

As in it's not so much about who is playing as it is who is not playing? I almost prefer festivals with headliners that I don't particularly like as it usually means that I can either see my favourite bands in smaller tents or else I can wander around and see something new. But it doesn't bother me if bands that I don't like are playing the same festival.

Is the point that such bands would attract a different crowd to EP?

Apart from disliking KOL, Killers, Arctics a major downside for me of having such acts is not the crowd but the sheer amount spent on them. The three above would likely each cost the same as two other decent potential headliners (eg Tame Impala, Leftfield).

Rigor Mortis

I'll happily risk my second infraction of the week.
The Kaiser Chiefs may be muck, but having seen them three times live, for various reasons, Ricky Wilson is to be fair, an excellent front man.

Now, I'm off to have a shower

haitens

Basically nobody has a clue😂 nobody guessed Duran Duran last year(says with confidence without checking) personally my hope is just to play dont care whos headlining Kendrick, Tame Impala, James, Shame, Dream Wife, Aphex Twin, Peggy Gou, Echo and the Bunnymen, Bjork, David Byrne, Wolf Alice, The Oreilys, Weaves, Tracy Bonham, Rostam. and whatever your having yourself.

Nugget89

Well that's Smashing Pumpkins ruled out.
Touring the states from July to September 7th.

MattD

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

I'll happily risk my second infraction of the week.
The Kaiser Chiefs may be muck, but having seen them three times live, for various reasons, Ricky Wilson is to be fair, an excellent front man.

Now, I'm off to have a shower

I'll agree with this, although the only time I saw them was at Oxegen 08 before RATM. The band knew that everyone was there for Rage, owned it, and put on a class performance. Will always remember them fondly for that. But I do think that shtick can only get you so far!

Rfrip

Nugget89 wrote: »

Well that's Smashing Pumpkins ruled out.
Touring the states from July to September 7th.

That’s upsetting

Wooderson

Rfrip wrote: »

That’s upsetting

They were despreh a couple years back.

bodhrandude

Fatfrog wrote: »

Leftfield announced a gig in Scotland Thur 30th just before the picnic. Surely a shoe in for a late night slot?

They've already been announced for Townlands Carnival, but its only a DJ set which is considerably different to a live band set, I would be inclined to think it was a live band set if it said live in brackets next to the name, so most likely a DJ set for the Electric Fields gig too.

Paddy2012

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Ricosruffneck wrote: »

It's just looking at the history of headliners of both fests and it doens't favour Kendrick showing at EP.

But with the amount of fests that Kendrick is doing it's not impossible.

Although i think Leeds/reading will be his last before he goes back stateside.

Personally i'd really like to see him.

Glasgow Summer Sessions on Wed 29 August so surely increases the chances? Be nice for him to finish his tour in Stradbally.

I don't want to temp fate but the Glasgow show just seems the perfect mid point between Reading and Leeds and an EP Saturday night slot.

BadTurtle

N.e.r.d could be a good shout for a band higher up the bill. Wouldn't have thought they'd be headliner material but having said that, neither were A Tribe Called Quest last year.

Few guesses as to who might be alongside them:
Tame Impala
Nick Cave
Fleet Foxes
Arctic Monkeys
Flying Lotus
Childish Gambino

and a few stabs at the mediocre/****e side of things:
Ben Howard
Kaiser Chiefs
The Killers
Arcade Fire