Are smokers genetically predisposed to being an asshat?

Benjamin Buttons

Omackeral wrote: »

I dunno about any of that but anytime I see a 10 lighting up a smoke she instantly becomes a 2. It's the biggest turn off for me.

While you yourself remain a constant 10 of course.

One eyed Jack

Pelvis wrote: »

So, sitting outside a londis having a late lunch, a large selection of tables available over a large area, when someone decides a meter away from me is the perfect place to smoke their cigarette.

Like, seriously, are smokers just totally oblivious to just how disgusting the habit is? It doesn't occur to someone that perhaps the person they've decided to stand next to, who is having their lunch, doesn't want to breath in their second hand smoke?

And of course, when they're done, the butt goes on the ground. Which bizarrely, seems be a mandatory act for smokers. Should be a minimum €1000 fine for this carry on for a start. Scum.

Rant over.

OP you do have a point, that person was incredibly inconsiderate of others, but there's no correlation between people who are assholes, and people who smoke. See below for an example of same -

MickDoyle1979 wrote: »

It says "Smoking Kills" and has pictures of the medical horrors of smoking on the packaging. They can see the money draining from their bank account - how much will a pack go up in the in next budget? For decades there have been anti smoking adverts and we all know people have died of lung cancer or are wheezing their way to an early grave.

Anyone who smokes is a moron and they deserve their horrible death.

They have no excuse.

No pity or sympathy for anyone who smokes.

I don't need either an excuse, nor your pity nor sympathy. I have private health insurance, which also drains money from my bank account and will also be guaranteed to go up after the next budget.

MickDoyle1979

pappyodaniel wrote: »

You do realise that not so very long ago, people smoked in pubs, restaurants, trains, planes, elevators, the cinema, hospitals etc. We have come a long way in fairness so a little 2nd hand smoke is no big deal.
Bunch of wimps.

I don't want to breath in the smoke of a moron who has chosen a slow death

Benjamin Buttons

MickDoyle1979 wrote: »

I don't want to breath in the smoke of a moron who has chosen a slow death

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Oh to be able to choose and know how we're going to die. Lucky you!

Oranage2

People just throwing the butt on the ground and stamping it out, completely filthy.

Roger Hassenforder

Benjamin Buttons wrote: »

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Oh to be able to choose and know how we're going to die. Lucky you!

They're certainly willingly increasing the odds of an early slow painful death.

Roger_007

Lollipops23 wrote: »

I have to agree about the lack of consideration from many smokers out in public. Particularly at bus stops when you're queued up and have no option but to stay put. Face full of smoke.

You will also get a face full of noxious smoke and fumes from every bus that pulls up..........in my experience!

Benjamin Buttons

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

They're certainly willingly increasing the odds of an early slow painful death.

Can't gainsay that, particularly when your post lacks the rancour, spite and acrimony of the one I responded to.

corner of hells

I smoke maybe one or two rollies a
month.

Tonight I think ill have one .

Collie D

corner of hells wrote: »

I smoke maybe one or two rollies a
month.

Tonight I think ill have one .

Me too, just to annoy people...might do it while cycling

Malayalam

corner of hells wrote: »

I smoke maybe one or two rollies a
month.

Tonight I think ill have one .

Me too. I have the occasional contemplative rollie, looking out over the fields or gazing into an outside fire. But getting a face full of someone elses breathed out fag smoke in public is pretty yuck, to be fair. Still, nothing compared to the days when the pretty stewardess would smile back at us in non-smoking, and draw across the tiny blue curtains over the head rests on the plane, so that we could be protected from the smoke and the smoking passengers could light up in peace. Well, except for when the No Smoking sign was on, then Heaven forbid! :rolleyes:

Roger Hassenforder

Benjamin Buttons wrote: »

Can't gainsay that, particularly when your post lacks the rancour, spite and acrimony of the one I responded to.

damit , I need to up my game!

jca

pappyodaniel wrote: »

So how often do you pull a "10"?

5 digits+5 digits =10, often enough I'd say.

Atoms for Peace

Allinall wrote: »

Not nearly as big an asshat as people that start a sentence with "like".

Like bhoy.

Cee-Jay-Cee

What is an SJW?

Grayson

Omackeral wrote: »

I dunno about any of that but anytime I see a 10 lighting up a smoke she instantly becomes a 2. It's the biggest turn off for me.

Bet it's not as big a turnoff as when a guy ranks women out of ten.

Rubberchikken

Disgusting habit.
Can't and won't share space with a smoker. Don't care how offended they may be. Though something tells me their hide is too thick to get a hint.


Outside tables seem to be for people who want to smoke and eat so I'd never sit outside. Ban all smoking I say🙂

eleventh

Some smoke is unavoidable I suppose, although I don't like it and will move away if I can, it's a fact of city life.

What should be avoidable though is the footpaths being littered with butts. It's a real sign of an idiot, anyone who throws rubbish on the ground.

Sam Kade

Allinall wrote: »

Not nearly as big an asshat as people that start a sentence with "like".

What the fcuk is an asshat?

MadDog76

Omackeral wrote: »

I dunno about any of that but anytime I see a 10 lighting up a smoke she instantly becomes a 2. It's the biggest turn off for me.

I'm sure Miss 10 will get over you not wanting her anymore ............ :rolleyes:

JimmyMcGill

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

What is an SJW?

A Sarah Jessica ****. Looking at a horse whilst ****.


I could be wrong mind.

Samaris

I think the shortest answer to your question is just plain "No."

reason vs religion

Glad someone else thinks it. Really pïsses me off that smokers have no problem imposing the unpleasant effects of their activity on others.

Only because of convention is it still socially acceptable. I thought of doing a social experiment whereby I'd light a stick, or something that smokes, standing beside someone who had just finished their cigarette. Reckon they'd be pretty annoyed, even though I would view the two as equivalent.

MadDog76

reason vs religion wrote: »

Glad someone else thinks it. Really pïsses me off that smokers have no problem imposing the unpleasant effects of their activity on others.

Only because of convention is it still socially acceptable. I thought of doing a social experiment whereby I'd light a stick, or something that smokes, standing beside someone who had just finished their cigarette. Reckon they'd be pretty annoyed, even though I would view the two as equivalent.

If somebody stood next to me with a lit stick I wouldn't be annoyed ........ I'd be confused ........ and if it bothered me in any way I'd just go somewhere else .......... INSIDE, for example.

Fr_Dougal

Pelvis wrote: »

So, sitting outside a londis having a late lunch, a large selection of tables available over a large area, when someone decides a meter away from me is the perfect place to smoke their cigarette.

Like, seriously, are smokers just totally oblivious to just how disgusting the habit is? It doesn't occur to someone that perhaps the person they've decided to stand next to, who is having their lunch, doesn't want to breath in their second hand smoke?

And of course, when they're done, the butt goes on the ground. Which bizarrely, seems be a mandatory act for smokers. Should be a minimum €1000 fine for this carry on for a start. Scum.

Rant over.

MickDoyle1979 wrote: »

It says "Smoking Kills" and has pictures of the medical horrors of smoking on the packaging. They can see the money draining from their bank account - how much will a pack go up in the in next budget? For decades there have been anti smoking adverts and we all know people have died of lung cancer or are wheezing their way to an early grave.

Anyone who smokes is a moron and they deserve their horrible death.

They have no excuse.

No pity or sympathy for anyone who smokes.

MickDoyle1979 wrote: »

I don't want to breath in the smoke of a moron who has chosen a slow death

Rubberchikken wrote: »

Disgusting habit.
Can't and won't share space with a smoker. Don't care how offended they may be. Though something tells me their hide is too thick to get a hint.


Outside tables seem to be for people who want to smoke and eat so I'd never sit outside. Ban all smoking I say🙂

reason vs religion wrote: »

Glad someone else thinks it. Really pes me off that smokers have no problem imposing the unpleasant effects of their activity on others.

Only because of convention is it still socially acceptable. I thought of doing a social experiment whereby I'd light a stick, or something that smokes, standing beside someone who had just finished their cigarette. Reckon they'd be pretty annoyed, even though I would view the two as equivalent.

I'm a smoker.

I'm also a blood platelets donor, I donate every 4 weeks. God forbid you or your family ever need a transfusion, make sure you tell the hospital how much you hate smokers, tell them that you don't want a transfusion from a smoker, tell them how you hate the smell and that smokers are scum etc.

I bet you won't.

Pelvis

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I bet you won't.

Why would I? You're making no sense Dougal.

MadDog76

Pelvis wrote: »

So, sitting outside a londis having a late lunch, a large selection of tables available over a large area, when someone decides a meter away from me is the perfect place to smoke their cigarette.

Like, seriously, are smokers just totally oblivious to just how disgusting the habit is? It doesn't occur to someone that perhaps the person they've decided to stand next to, who is having their lunch, doesn't want to breath in their second hand smoke?

And of course, when they're done, the butt goes on the ground. Which bizarrely, seems be a mandatory act for smokers. Should be a minimum €1000 fine for this carry on for a start. Scum.

Rant over.

AssHat (North American Slang)

"An idiot, moron or stupid person ......... someone with their head up their own ass."

Ironic that you think all smokers are "asshats"!

Americans don't get irony though ..........

marcus001

Omackeral wrote: »

I dunno about any of that but anytime I see a 10 lighting up a smoke she instantly becomes a 2. It's the biggest turn off for me.

I'd say it knocks about 2-3 points off at most. Whenever I see a girl whose kind of middling to begin with and is a smoker I just think, "you're not exactly selling yourself here love".

Fanny Wank

So is asshat essentially an arsehole (for those of us that speak in normal, non-Americanised English)?

MadDog76

marcus001 wrote: »

I'd say it knocks about 2-3 points off at most. Whenever I see a girl whose kind of middling to begin with and is a smoker I just think, "you're not exactly selling yourself here love".

I feel so sorry for all these stunning girls who are missing out on the likes of yourself!

MadDog76

Fanny **** wrote: »

So is asshat essentially an arsehole (for those of us that speak in normal, non-Americanised English)?

No ........ "asshat", in Irish, is an eejit.

Benjamin Buttons

Fanny **** wrote: »

So is asshat essentially an arsehole (for those of us that speak in normal, non-Americanised English)?

Otherwise your username would mean something slightly different.

jbt123

MickDoyle1979 wrote: »

It says "Smoking Kills" and has pictures of the medical horrors of smoking on the packaging. They can see the money draining from their bank account - how much will a pack go up in the in next budget? For decades there have been anti smoking adverts and we all know people have died of lung cancer or are wheezing their way to an early grave.

Anyone who smokes is a moron and they deserve their horrible death.

They have no excuse.

No pity or sympathy for anyone who smokes.

As I sit here drawing on a nice Marlboro light....I can't help but wish,that you are a parent and your kids/grandkids end up smoking.

Just a thought.....

marcus001

MadDog76 wrote: »

I feel so sorry for all these stunning girls who are missing out on the likes of yourself!

All the nonsmokers are missing out on me as well :pac:

reason vs religion

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I'm a smoker.

I'm also a blood platelets donor, I donate every 4 weeks. God forbid you or your family ever need a transfusion, make sure you tell the hospital how much you hate smokers, tell them that you don't want a transfusion from a smoker, tell them how you hate the smell and that smokers are scum etc.

I bet you won't.

What an appallingly bad argument.

MadDog76 wrote: »

If somebody stood next to me with a lit stick I wouldn't be annoyed ........ I'd be confused ........ and if it bothered me in any way I'd just go somewhere else .......... INSIDE, for example.

First, I think it would bother you, as you meekly concede with the "and if it did..." addendum. And, because of that, I don't think you would happily move inside if you were to encounter it frequently, as non-smokers do.

Sam Kade

Fanny **** wrote: »

So is asshat essentially an arsehole (for those of us that speak in normal, non-Americanised English)?

Asshole is an American slang word

Donald Trump

Jaysus. Plenty of stupid arguments on here.

Someone was called a social justice warrior for telling a story about someone smoking in their vicinity......obviously people see the term sjw bandied about and don't know what it means and think it's cool or smart to use it in any situation.

Some fella says a stunning girl becomes unattractive, or less attractive, if they are smoking and people make snide remarks about him not being able to pull her.
I don't think you need to be able to pull a certain girl to be able to say she's otherwise very physically attractive to you but something about her makes her less so

marcus001

Donald Trump wrote: »

Jaysus. Plenty of stupid arguments on here.

Someone was called a social justice warrior for telling a story about someone smoking in their vicinity......obviously people see the term sjw bandied about and don't know what it means and think it's cool or smart to use it in any situation.

Some fella says a stunning girl becomes unattractive, or less attractive, if they are smoking and people make snide remarks about him not being able to pull her.
I don't think you need to be able to pull a certain girl to be able to say she's otherwise very physically attractive to you but something about her makes her less so

I didn't think the remark was snide. At least I hope it wasn't. I took it as banter

Benjamin Buttons

Sam Kade wrote: »

Asshole is an American slang word

But he didn't say 'asshole' he said 'arsehole'.....taking the level of debate up a couple of notches of course.

Spider Web

I have a cigarette when drinking, so I smoke weekly (and I buy my own! I leave them in my bag for the week - I just don't enjoy them without a few drinks first) and I do agree there is an acceptance of just dropping cigarette butts on the ground, but any other littering is a no-no. Also, don't blow smoke in people's faces or light up right next to a person who is not smoking. Not many people do it, to be fair, but it's obnoxious!

Companies should limit fag breaks too - going out for five minutes every hour is too much.

But no, not all smokers are "asshats".

con___manx1

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I'm a smoker.

I'm also a blood platelets donor, I donate every 4 weeks. God forbid you or your family ever need a transfusion, make sure you tell the hospital how much you hate smokers, tell them that you don't want a transfusion from a smoker, tell them how you hate the smell and that smokers are scum etc.

I bet you won't.

I'm a smoker to and have given blood a good few times.my doctor smokes like a trooper ; )

eleventh

MadDog76 wrote: »

If somebody stood next to me with a lit stick I wouldn't be annoyed ........ I'd be confused ........ and if it bothered me in any way I'd just go somewhere else .......... INSIDE, for example.

Which you can't if - as someone mentioned earlier - you're in a queue for an ATM or waiting for a bus.

WoollyRedHat

I dont have time to read through 93 replies, too much of a drag. How many peer reviewed studies were discussed?

Sam Kade

Benjamin Buttons wrote: »

But he didn't say 'asshole' he said 'arsehole'.....taking the level of debate up a couple of notches of course.

So that makes it Irish :rolleyes:

Fr_Dougal

reason vs religion wrote: »

What an appallingly bad argument.




First, I think it would bother you, as you meekly concede with the "and if it did..." addendum. And, because of that, I don't think you would happily move inside if you were to encounter it frequently, as non-smokers do.

No. You're wrong.

MadDog76

reason vs religion wrote: »

First, I think it would bother you, as you meekly concede with the "and if it did..." addendum. And, because of that, I don't think you would happily move inside if you were to encounter it frequently, as non-smokers do.

If you're going around with lit sticks thinking it's going to upset smokers you're in for a shock ......... we'd probably just ask you if we can light up off your big cute matchstick!!!

MadDog76

eleventh wrote: »

Which you can't if - as someone mentioned earlier - you're in a queue for an ATM or waiting for a bus.

Boohoo .......... you'll survive. :cool:

Heckler

I'm a smoker.

I don't smoke around my nieces and nephews. I don't light up at bus stops unless I'm standing well away from others. When I started giving lifts to work to colleagues I asked them if it was ok for me to smoke in the car. In fairness, if they said no it would be the last lift they got but Hey I asked.

I will smoke walking down the street, sitting at any cafe, pub, restaurant etc that has either a designated smoking area or just a general outdoor area.

I don't throw butts on the ground.

From about :10 secs in

Enjoy. I'm out for a fag.

Baron Kurtz

Pac1Man wrote: »

Just when I thought we had hats for everything that needed a hat...

He looks like he's re-living a humorous moment in his life just there. Or looks like he knows something the rest of us aren't prescient enough to grasp or realise.

dr.fuzzenstein

MickDoyle1979 wrote: »

It says "Smoking Kills" and has pictures of the medical horrors of smoking on the packaging. They can see the money draining from their bank account - how much will a pack go up in the in next budget? For decades there have been anti smoking adverts and we all know people have died of lung cancer or are wheezing their way to an early grave.

Anyone who smokes is a moron and they deserve their horrible death.

They have no excuse.

No pity or sympathy for anyone who smokes.

I quit 4 years ago and reading obnoxious sh*te like this makes me want to start again so I don't turn into such a horrible, bitter person.
As for money, I am proud of the fact that I bought all my tobacco from Aldi in Germany. 40g for €3.40 at the time. Packet would do me a week, x52 = €176.80 pet annum.
So overall a very reasonably priced affair. And safer than those Chinese fags 3/4 of Irish smokers are smoking that will put them in hospital far quicker than the proper fags and will cost the state a sh*tload of money.
Why?
Because of the bat excrement insane prices of a packet of cigarettes.
Result?
People will by illegal counterfeit cigarettes, brought in by criminal gangs. Government loses tax revenue. Government now has to spend millions combating criminal gangs that are extremely wealthy and heavily armed, so double loss. Meanwhile more people will end up needing hospital treatment due to illegal fags contaminated with god knows what.
So triple loss.
Stupidly expensive cigarettes will end up costing the Irish government billions. And that's without the legal option of taking the ferry to France and loading up with fags and booze (more losses due to idiotic high alcohol prices).
The Irish government is practically machine gunning it's own feet.