UFC fans - A shower of ****?

Pintman Paddy Losty

David Macwilliams article in the independent today had some interesting figures showing correlation between people who watch UFC and people who spend their time tugging away at their mickeys.

Irish porn watching was up a whopping 174pc in the aftermath of McGregor's trouncing by a 40 year old man. It ties in with what I have observed of UFC fans who seem to be almost exclusively angry young men (often overweight). This segment of society does seem to have an unhealthy relationship with online pornography (often violent and misogynistic).

Anyway, it's an interesting set of statistics and makes you wonder about the mindset of the fans of this violent 'sport'.

Greybottle

Orders popcorn from the Butler.

Are Am Eye

Ive always found a strong correlation between David McWilliams and ****.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Two men fighting each other is the oldest sport of all time.

I'm a fan of all combat sports. I don't really care about peoples perceptions of me for being a fan of such.

Rumpy Pumpy

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Two men fighting each other is the oldest sport of all time.

I'm a fan of all combat sports. I don't really care about peoples perceptions of me for being a fan of such.

Did you watch violent gonzo porn while trying to pull the skeleton out of yourself after the 'fight' though?

J. Marston

He got paid for that article.

Pintman Paddy Losty

J. Marston wrote: »

He got paid for that article.

Yes, journalists generally don't wrote articles out if the goodness of their heart and are paid for their work :rolleyes:

bananabread12

It's a scumbag sport that is enjoyed mostly by uneducated lower class people. Violence and "boxing the head off people" is a part of their everyday life and culture. It's what attracts them to UFC which they find legitimises their barbarism.

No university educated adult with significant cultural capital would be caught dead with UFC. It's for the lower classes.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

Did you watch violent gonzo porn while trying to pull the skeleton out of yourself after the 'fight' though?

Nope.

I don't get off in that way.

I like to watch men beat each other but it does nothing for me sexually.

Rumpy Pumpy

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Nope.

I don't get off in that way.

I like to watch men beat each other but it does nothing for me sexually.

I don't think that is what McWilliams is implying. He's just reporting that the use of a porn site shot up in the hour after the fight. That would suggest that the sort of person who would stay up and watch such a thing is also the type of person who uses pronography - more than likely male, single, not great with the ladies.

Pintman Paddy Losty

I suppose it's not too surprising to see a relationship between the two activities. Both are voyeuristic activities where the audience gets a thrill from watching the violent, grotesque and obscene.

bananabread12

bananabread12 wrote: »

It's a scumbag sport that is enjoyed mostly by uneducated lower class people. Violence and "boxing the head off people" is a part of their everyday life and culture. It's what attracts them to UFC which they find legitimises their barbarism.

No university educated adult with significant cultural capital would be caught dead with UFC. It's for the lower classes.

What's your level of education? If you don't mind me asking

Richard tea

OP......you seem to have the biggest hard on for megregor considering your post history in the mma fourm.

Pintman Paddy Losty

Goderator wrote: »

Pintman paddy is a coward, coming online to vent. He wouldnt dare open his mouth face to face. Back to your safe space sham.

This response typifies the angry young man who is lashing out at the world.

Pintman Paddy Losty

Richard tea wrote: »

OP......you seem to have the biggest hard on for megregor considering your post history in the mma fourm.

This thread isn't about McGregor.

It's a discussion about the statistical quirk whereby porn use dropped significantly during his fight and shot up drastically immediately after and what we can infer from this.

Pintman Paddy Losty

Goderator wrote: »

Hahaha i think your the one thats an angry man. A coward is what you are, you should go up to some fight fans and tell them what you think they are, let me know how you get on.

I'm more interested in level-headed diacussion rather than getting in to a scrap with some fat-headed fool in a Tapout hoody, Ta!

Richard tea

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

This thread isn't about McGregor.

It's a discussion about the statistical quirk whereby porn use dropped significantly during his fight and shot up drastically immediately after and what we can infer from this.

But plumbers,doctors,grave diggers, boxing fans, mma fans etc etc tuned in for the fight. How does the article show it was only ufc fans that choked the chicken

impr0v

/checks p0rnhub stats to see if bickering in this thread is having an impact.

Tzardine

If you look at the facebook pages of UFC fans you will see that they are usually "full time mad bastards" educated at "school of hard knocks".

Your Face

Can we get back to discussing Moliere?

Pintman Paddy Losty

Goderator wrote: »

Yeah because you know it wouldnt be a fight, you would get the b****x knocked out of you.

:rolleyes:

DEFTLEFTHAND

I remember reading about Paddy Losty in a 'buke' about Dublin pubs.

I always wondered how 'pintmen' like Paddy funded their 'lifestyles'.

Did these fcukers work at all or did they just draw dole, neglect their families, get pissed and back slow horses every afternoon?

murpho999

I don’t see how the OP makes the connection to UFC fans as the night in question was a boxing match not UFC.

Ultimate Seduction

I am a big McGregor fan and a frequent wanker, but I've wanked long before I heard of UFC. I'm sure there is similar drop off in **** during big soccer, American football games ECT.

marcus001

Since the majority of young men, porn watchers and non-porn watchers, were probably tuned in for it it shouldn't really be a surprise.

You also have to take into account the fact that the majority of people watching it alone probably didn't buy the PPV and were probably streaming it on their laptop... in bed... at 5am. How else do you get back to sleep? :pac:

Ultimate Seduction

How do we know they weren't mayweather fans anyway.

marcus001

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

This thread isn't about McGregor.

It's a discussion about the statistical quirk whereby porn use dropped significantly during his fight and shot up drastically immediately after and what we can infer from this.

Does porn use drop during the Superbowl? Almost certainly. Does porn use drop during every major sporting event? Almost certainly.

Donald Trump

Goderator wrote: »

Porn is great, dont tell me bird !

She's well aware of it. She actually loves it.

Making it that is. Sure that's why she keeps coming over to me with the oul' go-pro and camcoder

Omackeral

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

It ties in with what I have observed of UFC fans who seem to be almost exclusively angry young men (often overweight).

Your observation is absolutely idiotic. Angry young men. I honestly, honestly don't get this. Anytime I've watched UFC shows with people, everyone has been having a good time with their friends. The people in the crowd are there having fun with their friends too. Have you no friends? Is that it?

bananabread12

Goderator wrote: »

Bullied by bigger lads at school is my guess.

You condone bullying of children?

hatrickpatrick

I think I'd have serious trouble even attempting to have a **** after a McGregor fight due to the sheer amount of alcohol consumed, but challenge accepted.

Omackeral

bananabread12 wrote: »

It's a scumbag sport that is enjoyed mostly by uneducated lower class people. Violence and "boxing the head off people" is a part of their everyday life and culture. It's what attracts them to UFC which they find legitimises their barbarism.

No university educated adult with significant cultural capital would be caught dead with UFC. It's for the lower classes.

Another ignorant comment from an ignorant person. Many UFC fighters themselves are well educated. Rich Franklin was a maths teacher and holds a Masters Degree in Mathematics. I think Shane Carwin was an Engineer before stepping into the octagon. Mirko Cro Cop was elected to the Croatian parliament.

I've no problem if people don't like MMA, I'm a very very casual fan myself. It's when they spout off ignorant sh*te, that's when they should be called out.

Rumpy Pumpy

Omackeral wrote: »

Your observation absolutely idiotic. Angry young men. I honestly, honestly don't get this. Anytime I've watched UFC shows with people, everyone has been having a good time with their friends. The people in the crowd are there having fun with their friends too. Have you no friends? Is that it?

It appears they ditched their friends fairly sharpish after the 'fight', and went off to engage in acts of onanism while watching gonzo porn.

DrPhilG

bananabread12 wrote: »

No university educated adult with significant cultural capital would be caught dead with UFC. It's for the lower classes.

Lol

When I get a chance I'll dig up the stats I previously read about the number of degrees among active fighters.

Even Chuck Liddell the mohican wearing tattooed knockout artist back in the day was a qualified accountant!

PS I'm not angry, and sadly I don't think 38 counts as young either.

hatrickpatrick

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

It appears they ditched their friends fairly sharpish after the 'fight', and went off to engage in acts of onanism while watching gonzo porn.

Have you never heard of a circlejerk? Man, some people are just missing out on life's finer pleasures

bananabread12

Omackeral wrote: »

Another ignorant comment from an ignorant person. Many UFC fighters themselves are well educated. Rich Franklin was a maths teacher and holds a Masters Degree in Mathematics. I think Shane Carwin was an Engineer before stepping into the octagon. Mirko Cro Cop was elected to the Croatian parliament.

I've no problem if people don't like MMA, I'm a very very casual fan myself. It's when they spout off ignorant sh*te, that's when they should be called out.

You've literally listed 1 person you're sure of that has any iota of decency. In terms of scientific empiricism that is labeled an outlier - which again, in case you can't identify, is wholly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

Make no mistake MMA as a whole (and the notion of tackling people to the ground and hitting them) is a "sport" that attracts a specific class of people with a particular cultural compatibility. In other words .... uneducated, lower class scum that is in need of having their dole money scrapped.

Bunny Colvin

Omackeral wrote: »

Another ignorant comment from an ignorant person. Many UFC fighters themselves are well educated. Rich Franklin was a maths teacher and holds a Masters Degree in Mathematics. I think Shane Carwin was an Engineer before stepping into the octagon. Mirko Cro Cop was elected to the Croatian parliament.

I've no problem if people don't like MMA, I'm a very very casual fan myself. It's when they spout off ignorant sh*te, that's when they should be called out.

Let him off, only looking for attention. He's being doing the same in the GAA forum.

Bambi985

So the findings here are that young men who were probably the biggest demographic watching the McGregor fight also watch porn? STOP THE PRESSES

Rumpy Pumpy

I wonder will the site see a drop off in activity while Last Night of the Proms is on BBC2?

CatFromHue

There wouldn't be a man standing if Meisha Tate and Paige VanZant started grappling......

Omackeral

bananabread12 wrote: »

You've literally listed 1 person you're sure of that has any iota of decency. In terms of scientific empiricism that is labeled an outlier - which again, in case you can't identify, is wholly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

Make no mistake MMA as a whole (and the notion of tackling people to the ground and hitting them) is a "sport" that attracts a specific class of people with a particular cultural compatibility. In other words .... uneducated, lower class scum that is in need of having their dole money scrapped.

Well I listed them off the top of my head. Do you want me go digging up stats? You said nobody involved in college would ever have anything to do with UFC and I told you straight away of a former champion and hall of famer that holds a Masters Degree.

As for your talk of fans of the sport having their dole money stripped off them, that says more about you than anyone else. All my friends and I work respectable jobs and we enjoy the odd ppv as a good get together. We'd invite you round but you'd probably judge us for drinking straight from the can.

DrPhilG

I've been an MMA fan for 10 years and been to 20+ UFC events plus numerous local events.

I've never been on the dole though, what should my punishment be?

DrPhilG

OK I've had a spare minute so Googled a few more.

1 - Rich Franklin, former high school maths teacher, masters degree in education, bachelors degree in mathematics

2 - Jeff Monson, masters and bachelors degree in psychology, worked as a children's and family counsellor in his spare time during his fighting career.

3 - Shane Carwin, bachelor’s degree in mechanical engineering, bachelor’s degree in environmental technology.

4 - Rosie Sexton, degree in mathematics, PhD in theoretical computer science and since retirement is working as an osteopath.

Plus I found the stats I remember from last time I had this discussion.

In the US, the percentage of the population who have college degrees is 28%.

In the UFC, it is (or was at the time of the study in 2013) 80%.

Have a read of this site and then we'll decide who lacks education, the average UFC fighter or the OP...

http://www.thearenamma.com/mma-facts/

darced

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Ultimate Seduction

Conors coach, John Kavnagh, also has a degree in engineering.

Chuck Liddell, biggest savage ever in MMA is an accountant.

Shane Carwin has a bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering and also a degree in environmental engineering.


Rich Franklin has a bachelor's degree in mathematics and a masters degree in education.


Mirko Crocop was a police officer, and later elected to the Croation parliament.


Chael Sonnen was a very successful real estate broker, and also an Oregon state Senate candidate.


Tyron Woodley has a degree in agricultural economics.


Rosie Sexton has a pHD in mathmathics.


Most American mma fighters have been through college of some sort with wrestling.


Edit. Just seen other users post the same.

Pintman Paddy Losty

I've no idea about the education standards of the fighters themselves, however the fans who travelled to Vegas certainly didn't cover themselves in glory.

Packs of scruffy eejits draped in tri colours drunkenly ambling around casinos in the middle of the day singing out of tune. I'm sure it was very annoying for regular holiday goers in Vegas.

Ultimate Seduction

Mostly J1 students! How many MMA fans do you actually know personally or how do you know the educational level of its fans?

Football hooligans are probably more suited to your stereotype.

DrPhilG

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I'm sure it was very annoying for regular holiday goers in Vegas.

Lol, because the average Vegas visitor hates the thought of drinking or partying...

I've been to 3 events in Vegas, including one where McGregor's presence prompted an Irish invasion.

Yeah plenty were drunken loons and a pain in the ass. But sorry to break it to you, that's because they were Irish, not because they were MMA fans.

As a nation we tend to have 2 main groups. Begrudgers and bandwagoners. The bandwagoners head off to support their team in whatever sport it may be, the begrudgers sit at home and moan about them.

B.A._Baracus

Ufc is entertainment like anything else. But I do hate those certain fans who are "experts" without having actual experience doing MMA. you know the type.

Then again every sport has its share of those type too. Football is probably the worst.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Make a correlation about two data points, print it knowing you'll get a reaction. Inspirational journalism.

osarusan

I don't have any interest in UFC and don't watch it.

So from that perspective as somebody who is 'outside' the sport, I've never had any encounter with a UFC fan, in real life or otherwise, that made me think UFC fans are any more likely to be **** than fans of other sports.