Social media influencers bragging ?

retro:electro

SB_Part2 wrote: »

I must be the only one who rolled their eyes at her snaps this morning about her hair. It just seems too convenient that she's talking about this now after Rosie bore all on her snapchat and got high praise for it.

As someone who lost most of their hair a few years back and understands the damage it can have on your self-confidence - I don't think it's the worst thing a woman can go through.

I couldn't disagree more. Just because women go through worse it doesn't discredit or devalue her experience. I really felt for her. I couldn't imagine rolling my eyes at someone who opened up so well about something they're clearly struggling with.

retro:electro

SB_Part2 wrote: »

That's your opinion. As I said, I lost the majority of my hair a few years back so I know what it feels like.

Losing a child or having a miscarriage, to me is worse than losing your hair. At least you can cover up a hair loss.

Lots of situations effect people differently! I don't know what more you want from the girl.

dizzyn

I think she was so so brave. Fair play to her. For most of us its a given that we have our hair, I honestly don't know what I'd do if I lost mine. It's such a big part of you, and has a huge amount to do with how you feel about yourself.

She did amazingly well and I for one wouldn't want to be screenshotted either. It's seems like to some people she's not a real person and can never have real emotions or real issues. I will raise my hand and say I've given put about her before but this takes serious courage.

We all have insecurities that eat away at us. This has really made me see her in a new light. I think she deserves to be applauded for her courage. It can't be easy to go through that.

idunno78

I have a long term illness and over the Last few years it's become worse (think along line of transplant). But I was thinking this morning which would I prefer this or losing my hair and I honestly couldn't choose. If I really had to had to I prob would pick loosing my hair. But that I think i would be just as terrible! A couple of years ago I got a little bald patch on my head, tiny, the size of the tip of my finger. But it was the worst thing ever I was so upset, petrified that I was going to loose more. I didn't and it grew back!

I highly doubt they were crocodile tears. They were genuine. And yea maybe she did post it because Rosie posted about her skin. Maybe seeing Rosie do that make her see she could do it to? Or maybe she is just fed up of people talking **** about her and doing this might see her in a different light? God only knows why she told us all. It still happened her and it's her story which obviously causes her a lot of problems!

I always,even when I'm so sick I can't get out of the bed, believe there is always someone worse out there for you! BUT at the same times it's all relative! One spot for me is terrible but to someone else having one spot might be amazing cos there used to having full on acne! To her her hair is a big deal might not be to some people but that's the way it is!!

Anyhow I don't really know where I'm going with this so il stop by little rant now!

Oh just to add I agree with whoever posted saying it won't change there opinion on her. I kind of agree. I will see her in a new light and have more understanding of her but don't agree with some things she does! Same as if sue or another blogger came out with something so emotional! I'm sure she wouldn't want that either! As in want pity or people to feel sorry for her! I hate that and people that act like that's towArds me in instantly dislike!!! Maybe that partly why she kept so quiet for so long. People look at you different when your 'sick'! Some people!

scarbouro

SB_Part2 wrote: »

I must be the only one who rolled their eyes at her snaps this morning about her hair. It just seems too convenient that she's talking about this now after Rosie bore all on her snapchat and got high praise for it.

I thought I was going to be the only one who thought this and didn't post incase of backlash.
Don't get me wrong, I can only imagine how horrendous it is to lose your hair and the girl was obviously very upset about it but the whole timing of it was strange. Personally, I feel she jumped on the pity wagon after seeing how praised Rosie was for opening up about her acne in the media ect. I find Joanne very contrived. There's always a reason for a particular post, rant, photo ect. My feelings haven't changed about her. I also think she's extremely narcissistic and probably the worst out of the many fashion bloggers out there.

I'm not heartless, I do feel sorry for the girl and hope she finds herself in a better place soon. But deep down I just find it very coincidental that she comes out with this all now....

SB_Part2

I did feel for her when she said 'Being in this industry people expect you to look perfect all the time'. Part of her problem is she tries to be perfect all the time when it's just not realistic. Everyone has off days. Nobody would care if she had a spot on her face or if she wore the same outfit twice. Or am I being naive, would they?

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scarbouro

sashafierce wrote: »

Exactly. I think that's part of So Sue Me's charm (I don't really follow her but people seem to like her?) that she doesn't give a sh!te, dominos in bed, no make up, joining the gym and quiting over and over. People relate to that...

I think that's why I can't relate to the MUF, she's just extremely false in everything she does. She tries to portray this wonderful life, when realistically it doesn't work like that. She needs to take the mask off and stop pretending life is all about which YSL bag you're going to purchase next. I do like people who show you the normal moments in life, the no make up days, the off days ect. I know thats what she was trying to do today but I found it all very forced, probably because she never shows the real Joanne. It must be terrible living your life to these super high expectations.

retro:electro

scarbouro wrote: »

I think that's why I can't relate to the MUF, she's just extremely false in everything she does. She tries to portray this wonderful life, when realistically it doesn't work like that. She needs to take the mask off and stop pretending life is all about which YSL bag you're going to purchase next. I do like people who show you the normal moments in life, the no make up days, the off days ect. I know thats what she was trying to do today but I found it all very forced, probably because she never shows the real Joanne. It must be terrible living your life to these super high expectations.

I understand her need to want to control everything around her when something traumatic happened to her that was so out of her control. It's a way of trying to crawl back some power for yourself.

Ray37

I was wondering had she taken note of how she has been discussed online lately, and decided to share this? As in the overly photoshopped pics, the constant sharing of the BF... Kind of pretending everything is so perfect? I was thinking maybe she has realized that people don't want to see unrealistic pictures and fasleness, any maybe that inspired her to open up about this? She's been discussed on a few threads, and lots of people have felt the same way about her. I wouldn't count myself as a fan, but for her own sake and career maybe it's a good thing if she pays attention to what her followers want/don't want to see. Hoping this comment makes sense, I'm a bit hungover today!

scarbouro

Yes and I get why she likes to control things to a point but She enhances everything in photos, not just her hair which is what she has the hang up about. She paints an unrealistic picture of herself and has to try keep up with that false image. There are plenty of bloggers out there with their own issues and hardships. At the end of the day, I just feel it was all a bit coincidental that she decides to come out with all this now.

retro:electro

I think it had been building up for a while. It didn't just come from nowhere.

blairbear

Only just got to watch Joanne's snaps now after work.

My heart is absolutely broken for her. The poor, poor girl. I don't know how anyone can accuse her of being calculating or choosing a convenient time to reveal this. Maybe she was inspired by Rosie and her honesty about her skin. Maybe she felt she was being misunderstood on threads like this. Whatever reason she had, those snaps were completely sincere and from the very core of her heart. I do feel totally differently about her now.

I really admire her honesty. I couldn't do it. I am a great one for pretending everything is okay, all the time. I understand her intense need to put a positive slant on her life at all times. She's a brave girl.

Losing your hair as a woman is torturous. Yes, there are other traumas one can suffer, as a poster pointed out, but one hardship does not negate another.

laylag

blairbear wrote:

Losing your hair as a woman is torturous. Yes, there are other traumas one can suffer, as a poster pointed out, but one hardship does not negate another.

Completely agree 100%.

fussyonion

As someone said earlier, the reason MUF gets so much negative feedback is because she is so unrelatable, compared to other bloggers.

I don't follow SoSueMe at all but someone pointed out that she'll be seen eating a pizza or chilling out make-up free and generally being normal and herself.

MUF is constantly posing and pouting and editing and touching up and photoshopping her pictures and re-posting messages from people praising her, and showing off handbags and talking about expensive sheets and showing everyone how fit and healthy she is and blah blah blah.

How on Earth is she relatable to her audience?

It smacks of egotism and narcissism and I already said I AM sorry she's had a rough day and is upset; I genuinely don't wish sadness on anyone but the trouble with her (and FBG, by the way) is they never listen to their followers and what they like and don't like.

Tignam, for example, actually asked people what content they wanted to see on her Snapchat.
Rosie Connolly asks the same frequently.
It's what they should be doing.

So, as the thread name suggests; the MUF is guilty of doing the most bragging and if today has taught her anything it's that people would rather she showed her true self and not this media savvy poser all the time.
Being a different person and having this other personality is just bizarre.

blairbear

Well maybe today was her first step towards being more relatable. You want her to be more down to earth and honest, right? Well she did that today.

Sue is different. She is a very body-confident girl. She rarely mentions how she feels about her looks, good, bad or indifferent. She has always been slim. She hasn't gone through a big weight-loss journey. She is just more at ease with herself than Joanne. I certainly wouldn't go on any form of social media make-up free, or guzzling pizza, in a fit. I think we can understand now why Joanne is insecure and dislikes tagged photos from events.

I think she deserves a bit of a break today.

toodleytoo

greensheep777 wrote: »

The real question is, do you just eat one kind of Cheetos? :pac:

I've seen people mentioning cheetos a few times now, what's the story there? I think I might be missing a joke :pac:

Cria

Well I hope that’s the end of the over filtering pretending life is amazing showing off bags ect and she shows the reality then she will stop becoming a running joke ,, she needs to go back to showing tutorials ect and stop putting Paul on Snapchat constantly And maybe she can claw back some credibility

StripedBoxers

toodleytoo wrote: »

I've seen people mentioning cheetos a few times now, what's the story there? I think I might be missing a joke :pac:

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RoisinClare6

I had to skip half of it, I couldn't watch the poor woman cry.

I dont think shes in a good place right now. Its a very hard thing to admit to an audience of thousands. I know hair can be a very hurtful subject be it loss/Excessive. I have excessive hair growth and I wouldn't be able to share something like that with such a large group of people.

People give out that she's unrelatable and dishonest and when she gives you the truth it's still not good enough.

I hope she feels better and can find peace with it I really do.

scarbouro

RoisinClare6 wrote: »

People give out that she's unrelatable and dishonest and when she gives you the truth it's still not good enough.
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That yesterday to me, wasn't relatable at all. That is the other extreme. Crying down the phone in floods of tears was her having a breakdown. We're talking about being relatable on a daily basis, showing normal daily life and emotions. When people talk about her being dishonest, they're talking about things she denies down to the ground when they're not true, selling free items at a mark up or flogging products one month saying they're the best thing since sliced bread and collaborating with a completely different company the next and saying the exact same thing... That's dishonesty.

blairbear

Being in floods of tears over something that really upsets you is not a "breakdown". I can be that upset over something personal then pull myself back together and haul myself into work etc. I'm a crier though. She is too. It was relatable for many followers.

scarbouro

blairbear wrote: »

Being in floods of tears over something that really upsets you is not a "breakdown". I can be that upset over something personal then pull myself back together and haul myself into work etc. I'm a crier though. She is too. It was relatable for many followers.

I would class it as a breakdown. The definition of a breakdown is to lose control of one's emotions, often sadness, especially after trying not to or after an intense buildup.

But anyway, I'm assuming you're not sitting in front of your phone crying to thousands of people when something upsets you. We all get upset and cry and I know she was explaining her hair loss but I am still not convinced as to why she did it now. As I have said already, I find Joanne very contrived. I can totally understand why she would be extremely upset about what she has gone through but it seems a bit suss as to why she felt the need to do it now.

retro:electro

SB_Part2 wrote: »

That's your opinion. As I said, I lost the majority of my hair a few years back so I know what it feels like.

Losing a child or having a miscarriage, to me is worse than losing your hair. At least you can cover up a hair loss.

You know what- I really don't think this comment deserves to be let go. It's really unfair.
It's awful that you lost your hair a few years ago, but you know what differentiates you from Joanne? Yours came back. Hers didn't. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be sat there pouring her heart out had she regained the loss. It's clearly something she's still traumatised over. And while sorry for what you went through- please don't use your experience of it as a barometer for how everyone else should react.

My sister miscarried a few weeks ago. Initially she was devastated. She had already found out the sex and had bought a few bits. But you know what? She's okay now. Still sad yes- but she's moving on with her life and already talking about planning for the next one. And while she was in a deep depression for a few weeks, she's coping now and getting on with life. It's not something she'll mourn over for the rest of her life, and she's not constantly reminded of the loss every time she looks in a mirror.

When my mam got cancer, she said and still says that losing her hair was worse than the diagnosis itself. There she was at 50 years old with long thick hair- and suddenly it was falling out in clumps. The illness she could cope with- the drugs were taking care of that. But the hair loss was uncontrollable and something external and physical that identified her as a sick person. She has been on a myriad of treatments since and the first question she asks her oncologist every time is "will this one make my hair fall out". It traumatised her and she completely lost her identity over it.

So again- sorry for dragging back up your comment but I thought it was too unfair to let go. It's clear you really don't like Joanne and are using this situation to fuel your dislike.

SB_Part2

anna080 wrote: »

You know what- I really don't think this comment deserves to be let go. It's really unfair.
It's awful that you lost your hair a few years ago, but you know what differentiates you from Joanne? Yours came back. Hers didn't. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be sat there pouring her heart out had she regained the loss. It's clearly something she's still traumatised over. And while sorry for what you went through- please don't use your experience of it as a barometer for how everyone else should react.

Edit: I'm actually not going to get into this but you're wrong in assuming my hair grew back.

retro:electro

SB_Part2 wrote: »

Nice assumption you've made there that my hair grew back. It didn't btw.

Not half as bad as the assumptions you've made on the behalf of other women.

SB_Part2

anna080 wrote: »

Not half as bad as the assumptions you've made on the behalf of other women.

I don't speak for all women. I never claimed to. All I said was that in my opinion there are worse things women can go through. I'm sure she's traumatised that she lost her hair. My issue is more with the fact that this has come to light now, right after someone else was praised for being honest.

Everything Joanne does seems calculated and planned. And as I already said, I feel very sorry for her that she thinks people expect her to be perfect all the time. Nobody expects it and it's what makes her unrelatable.

Lindy97

My mum said the loss of control over her body and hair (her body swelled because of the steroids) was worse than fighting the cancer. Obviously getting better was her priority but I remember her crying about how she was changing dramatically despite feeling reasonably ok most of the time (apart from initially after each chemo treatment) but her body changed and it being nothing to do with what she herself was doing.

I do hope Joanne is ok, given she's about to do this tour, and that she's strong enough to be out in public with people maybe taking photos etc that she'll have no control over. Maybe this was something she needed to do in order to break through this insecurity about her entire appearance she seems to have

qxtasybe1nwfh2

I hate when people try to belittle people’s emotions by saying oh well, it could be worse. It really doesn’t help anyone and contributes towards why people have such crap mental health.

SB_Part2

Duke Unsightly Manganese wrote: »

I hate when people try to belittle people’s emotions by saying oh well, it could be worse. It really doesn’t help anyone and contributes towards why people have such crap mental health.

I'm sorry I've upset you all so much with my comment. Wasn't my intention.

Lead

Duke Unsightly Manganese wrote: »

I hate when people try to belittle people’s emotions by saying oh well, it could be worse. It really doesn’t help anyone and contributes towards why people have such crap mental health.

I think when people say that they’re trying to let that person see that they have good things going on too and to try not focus on the bad.

Lindy97

Duke Unsightly Manganese wrote: »

I hate when people try to belittle people’s emotions by saying oh well, it could be worse. It really doesn’t help anyone and contributes towards why people have such crap mental health.

Yes, not specifically aimed at anyone in this thread but I hate when I see responses to you giving out about something that yes, seems trivial, such as "oh there are people dying, you have clearly nothing to be worrying about" etc. You know nothing about this person's life and I have yet to meet a person who has never had a whinge or a moan about something stupid or trivial to someone else.

retro:electro

Lead wrote: »

I think when people say that they’re trying to let that person see that they have good things going on too and to try not focus on the bad.

It wasn't phrased in that way though. It had sour intentions.
Would you say to someone depressed- "cheer up love it's not like you've had a miscarriage or anything"..
Why should we measure someone's trauma by other bad things that could have but didn't happen to them?

qxtasybe1nwfh2

I just think even if MUF only spoke out about this because she seen the response to Rosie’s post, does that really matter. Maybe people will see the positive reactions to both Rosie and MUF and it will encourage them to speak out about things that are upsetting for them. The more we get people to speak about their emotions, the better IMO.

Also maybe the positive support she seems to be getting from Paul has helped her speak out about it?

Lead

anna080 wrote: »

It wasn't phrased in that way though. It had sour intentions.
Would you say to someone depressed- "cheer up love it's not like you've had a miscarriage or anything"..
Why should we measure someone's trauma by other bad things that could have but didn't happen to them?

Obviously not. But someone crying one morning does not make them depressed. And i hate people throwing the depression status around for a moment of sadness.

I'm guilty of telling people "it could be worse, you could be dead" in a joking manner just to try take their mind off whatever it is that's getting them down.

SB gave her opinion on the issue. I dont feel her comments should be attacked or brought up a day later after you already commented on her post!

retro:electro

Duke Unsightly Manganese wrote: »

I just think even if MUF only spoke out about this because she seen the response to Rosie’s post, does that really matter. Maybe people will see the positive reactions to both Rosie and MUF and it will encourage them to speak out about things that are upsetting for them. The more we get people to speak about their emotions, the better IMO.

Also maybe the positive support she seems to be getting from Paul has helped her speak out about it?

Exactly. Maybe seeing Rosie's positive reaction made her feel like it's okay to speak out and try and normalise these things. We all get inspired from moments like that. If she really was such an attention seeker and calculated as some people would have you believe- surely she'd have cashed in on and manipulated this situation years ago? She didn't. Personally I like to think people are genuine in moments like this and not view them through goggles of cynicism.

retro:electro

Lead wrote: »

Obviously not. But someone crying one morning does not make them depressed. And i hate people throwing the depression status around for a moment of sadness.

I'm guilty of telling people "it could be worse, you could be dead" in a joking manner just to try take their mind off whatever it is that's getting them down.

SB gave her opinion on the issue. I dont feel her comments should be attacked or brought up a day later after you already commented on her post!

Eh- I never said she was depressed. My comment was that you wouldn't say it to a depressed person so don't say it to anyone else either.
I'm not attacking her comments. She said something I thought was unfair and was just glossed over. When you post something online you should be sure you want it out there for people to read or else don't be surprised when people come and pick it apart for what it is.

GingerLily

Lead wrote: »

Obviously not. But someone crying one morning does not make them depressed. And i hate people throwing the depression status around for a moment of sadness.

I'm guilty of telling people "it could be worse, you could be dead" in a joking manner just to try take their mind off whatever it is that's getting them down.

SB gave her opinion on the issue. I dont feel her comments should be attacked or brought up a day later after you already commented on her post!

Sure Anna also gave "her opinion", no need to attack Anna!

I think it's fair enough to stand up for someone who's telling people she's having a hard time, nothing wrong with showing a bit of empathy and compassion in this day and age....

blairbear

Lead wrote: »

Obviously not. But someone crying one morning does not make them depressed. And i hate people throwing the depression status around for a moment of sadness.

I'm guilty of telling people "it could be worse, you could be dead" in a joking manner just to try take their mind off whatever it is that's getting them down.

SB gave her opinion on the issue. I dont feel her comments should be attacked or brought up a day later after you already commented on her post!

Anna wasn't saying Joanne was depressed. She asked if you would say that to a depressed person, to expand on and illustrate her point.

I am glad that comment from yesterday was brought up again.

We could have equally commented on SB's post saying, "well, your whole family being killed in a house fire is worse! The people in Aleppo/Mexico etc have it worse!" But that would be cruel and irrelevant.

Lead

anna080 wrote: »

Eh- I never said she was depressed. My comment was that you wouldn't say it to a depressed person so don't say it to anyone else either.
I'm not attacking her comments. She said something I thought was unfair and was just glossed over. When you post something online you should be sure you want it out there for people to read or else don't be surprised when people come and pick it apart for what it is.

You replied to her comments yesterday. Now you want to bring up her comment again today. Let it go, Anna. It's coming across as being very bitchy towards another poster.

retro:electro

Lead wrote: »

You replied to her comments yesterday. Now you want to bring up her comment again today. Let it go, Anna. It's coming across as being very bitchy towards another poster.

If you have a problem with what i said then report my posts and don't try to police my opinion, thanks.

Lead

Will do. Thanks.

retro:electro

Didn't know there was a time limit here where we could comment and expand on someone's points :rolleyes:

qxtasybe1nwfh2

SB_Part2 wrote: »

I'm sorry I've upset you all so much with my comment. Wasn't my intention.

I appreciate your apology SB.

MuffinTop86

If she put it in a book Fairy Tales part 2 and said go buy my book and read about my trauma or even put it in a blog post you may have an argument for it being calculating, but saying it on snapchat is not.

She turned of her snaps for most of the day yesterday due to the outpouring of reaction. I don't think she did it to invoke a poor dear reaction, but maybe to explain why she does things the way she does.

idunno78

I don't think anyone needs to apologise! Everyone is entitled to their opinion! This subject is just very emotional I think. Because it has effected some people here they might feel more strongly. Of course there are worse things then loosing your hair, but if your going through it, at that moment and time there probably is nothing worse!
It did float into my mind that she was just doing it for attention and saw the response Rosie got when I watched the first snap. The timing wasn't great in that way but after watching all the snaps I do think it was genuine and not planned. It's obviously just something that really really affects her!

sashafierce

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idunno78

I'm not agreeing with what some people said but I still don't think they need to apologise! Sure I disagreed with it in my post a few pages back! And those comments are what made me write all I wrote! But it's their opinions and they shouldn't have to apoligise!

qxtasybe1nwfh2

idunno78 wrote: »

I'm not agreeing with what some people said but I still don't think they need to apologise! Sure I disagreed with it in my post a few pages back! And those comments are what made me write all I wrote! But it's their opinions and they shouldn't have to apoligise!

I don’t think people should have to be sorry for their opinions but I did appreciate that SB said sorry if their comments/opinion upset some people.