iPhone X - Discussion

murpho999 · 31-10-2017 6:41pm

Somedaythefire wrote: »

Nah the notch has nothing to do with it. It's thinner than the plus screen, that's why it's smaller. 5.8 and 5.5 are diagonally measured, so sure if you measure the X screen diagonally you'll get 5.8 but that's because it's taller than then plus. It's thinner as well. Slightly wider than the regular 8 screen.

http://i.imgur.com/1hwO7j0_d.jpg

Cyrus wrote: »

it is 5.8" on the diagonal

Really think you're just making excuses for Apple. They don't get everything right.

If promoted as 0.3 inch larger than the plus then one would not expect the actual video display size to be actually smaller than the plus.

It also just looks ugly to me as well.

Somedaythefire · 31-10-2017 6:55pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Really think you're just making excuses for Apple. They don't get everything right.

If promoted as 0.3 inch larger than the plus then one would not expect the actual video display size to be actually smaller than the plus.

It also just looks ugly to me as well.

You can't make excuses for physics mate. It's not bigger than the plus. That's known. It's not smaller because of the notch. That's known. It's smaller because of the horizontal dimensions.

snowflaker · 31-10-2017 6:56pm

I’m waiting for dispatch notification!!!

Ya-Boy-Ya · 31-10-2017 7:16pm

snowflaker wrote: »

I’m waiting for dispatch notification!!!

Arent we all !!!! :eek:

I read somewhere it takes 2 days to get to Dublin so I reckon should be tomorrow for dispatch

mad muffin · 31-10-2017 7:21pm

To get fast charging to work with qi do you need a special wall plug and cable?

Micky 32 · 31-10-2017 7:26pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Somedaythefire wrote: »

Nah the notch has nothing to do with it. It's thinner than the plus screen, that's why it's smaller. 5.8 and 5.5 are diagonally measured, so sure if you measure the X screen diagonally you'll get 5.8 but that's because it's taller than then plus. It's thinner as well. Slightly wider than the regular 8 screen.

http://i.imgur.com/1hwO7j0_d.jpg

Cyrus wrote: »

it is 5.8" on the diagonal

Really think you're just making excuses for Apple. They don't get everything right.

If promoted as 0.3 inch larger than the plus then one would not expect the actual video display size to be actually smaller than the plus.

It also just looks ugly to me as well.

Either way there is no way i'd have the dated lcd panel over the X's screen there absolutely is noooo comparison even with the notch.

FourFourRED · 31-10-2017 7:39pm

mad muffin wrote: »

To get fast charging to work with qi do you need a special wall plug and cable?

29W (or higher) power adapter and USB C to lightning cable - https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT208137

https://www.apple.com/ie/shop/product/MJ262B/A/29w-usb‑c-power-adapter?fnode=97

https://www.apple.com/ie/shop/product/MK0X2ZM/A/usb-c-to-lightning-cable-1-m?fnode=97

Also if you have 12W power adapter and regular lightning cable it will obviously fast charge the phone as well in comparison to the 5W adapter in the box

https://www.apple.com/ie/shop/product/MD836B/B/apple-12w-usb-power-adapter?fnode=97

This article shows a nice graph of what to potentially expect from different adapters: https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/02/whats-the-best-fast-charger-for-iphone-8-and-iphone-x/

murpho999 · 31-10-2017 7:41pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

Either way there is no way i'd have the dated lcd panel over the X's screen there absolutely is noooo comparison even with the notch.

Of course there is a comparison. The 8 plus has a very good LCD panel.

Just because OLED is out no does not mean that the LCD was poor.

I still prefer the dimensions of the plus screen.

mad muffin · 31-10-2017 7:51pm

FourFourFM wrote: »

29W (or higher) power adapter and USB C to lightning cable - https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT208137

https://www.apple.com/ie/shop/product/MJ262B/A/29w-usb‑c-power-adapter?fnode=97

https://www.apple.com/ie/shop/product/MK0X2ZM/A/usb-c-to-lightning-cable-1-m?fnode=97

Also if you have 12W power adapter and regular lightning cable it will obviously fast charge the phone as well in comparison to the 5W adapter in the box

https://www.apple.com/ie/shop/product/MD836B/B/apple-12w-usb-power-adapter?fnode=97

This article shows a nice graph of what to potentially expect from different adapters: https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/02/whats-the-best-fast-charger-for-iphone-8-and-iphone-x/

Thanks. But what I’m looking for is the Qi wire free charging. To get the Qi pad to do fast charge do I need a specific wall plug and cable too?

I’m looking at this Qi pad

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01H7547AE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And this wall plug

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073NZ43KY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

F34 · 31-10-2017 7:59pm

Ive ordered this one.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B075TPMKC1/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

server down · 31-10-2017 8:00pm

I presume there will be an iPhone X plus at some stage. That’s the one to go for?

Oafley Jones · 31-10-2017 8:02pm

mad muffin wrote: »

Thanks. But what I’m looking for is the Qi wire free charging. To get the Qi pad to do fast charge do I need a specific wall plug and cable too?

I’m looking at this Qi pad

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01H7547AE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And this wall plug

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073NZ43KY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Isn’t there an update coming for that. I’m sure wireless charging is limited to 5w out of the box.

Third_Echelon · 31-10-2017 8:05pm

server down wrote: »

I presume there will be an iPhone X plus at some stage. That’s the one to go for?

I would doubt it. It's nearly the same screen size as an 8 Plus but with the smaller physical size in between the 8 and 8 Plus. Wouldn't make sense to me...

F34 · 31-10-2017 8:12pm

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Isn’t there an update coming for that. I’m sure wireless charging is limited to 5w out of the box.

Yeah Apple have to release a software update for 7.5w to be possible.

Oafley Jones · 31-10-2017 8:17pm

Third_Echelon wrote: »

I would doubt it. It's nearly the same screen size as an 8 Plus but with the smaller physical size in between the 8 and 8 Plus. Wouldn't make sense to me...

Why not. I’d youre a fan of giant screens the X is a step backwards from the plus. It looks as if they’ve completely worn out the old form factor and the easiest way to generate buzz and sales would be an x plus.

Bob24 · 31-10-2017 8:19pm

server down wrote: »

I presume there will be an iPhone X plus at some stage. That’s the one to go for?

Probably next year. Which one to go for will depend on size preference (and to some extend on budget). Personally I have no interest in larger phones as the 6 form factor already barely fits in some of my trousers pockets and this is where I like to carry my phone.

Third_Echelon · 31-10-2017 8:23pm

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Why not. I’d youre a fan of giant screens the X is a step backwards from the plus. It looks as if they’ve completely worn out the old form factor and the easiest way to generate buzz and sales would be an x plus.

X is the sweet spot! Big screen, smaller physical size...

Sure they could make a phone the size of the 8 Plus with edge to edge screen... I don't see it happening with the X.

They have clearly split the offering into multiple channels. 8 and 8 Plus will continue in the current form most likely with the 9 and 9 Plus, whereas the X will be the flagship where the latest and greatest technology and gimmicks will be introduced... I don't think they will offer multiple version of the X or whatever it will be called in the next version.

mad muffin · 31-10-2017 8:25pm

Good look at the space grey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9FPfz-dRgQ

FourFourRED · 31-10-2017 8:29pm

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Isn’t there an update coming for that. I’m sure wireless charging is limited to 5w out of the box.

Correct. You’ll need one that supports 7.5W charging and wait for the update to support it.

FourFourRED · 31-10-2017 8:31pm

Ya-Boy-Ya wrote: »

Arent we all !!!! :eek:

I read somewhere it takes 2 days to get to Dublin so I reckon should be tomorrow for dispatch

2 days? It will most likely be overnight shipping from a warehouse in the UK to Ireland. Expect shipping email on Thursday.

31-10-2017 9:11pm

FourFourFM wrote: »

2 days? It will most likely be overnight shipping from a warehouse in the UK to Ireland. Expect shipping email on Thursday.

I’d agree with you on that, so dublin area and surroundings Friday and the rest Monday/Tuesday

I got my cover today, my wife is laughing at me sitting holding it lol

Oafley Jones · 31-10-2017 11:50pm

Third_Echelon wrote: »

X is the sweet spot! Big screen, smaller physical size...

Sure they could make a phone the size of the 8 Plus with edge to edge screen... I don't see it happening with the X.

They have clearly split the offering into multiple channels. 8 and 8 Plus will continue in the current form most likely with the 9 and 9 Plus, whereas the X will be the flagship where the latest and greatest technology and gimmicks will be introduced... I don't think they will offer multiple version of the X or whatever it will be called in the next version.

I might agree if the 8 sales weren’t poor. It’s diminsihing returns on that design. I’d say an x plus is inevitable.

Calvin · 31-10-2017 11:51pm

Just ordered cases, tempered glass protector and a cheap 5W wireless charger.. couldn’t help myself, even though my estimated delivery is 15th-22nd! Will get a Belkin 7.5W wireless charger if I end up using the wireless charging a lot.

8bi1ctzegfouva · 01-11-2017 12:06am

The pending charge on my card has changed to an actual transaction now. Hopefully that means it’s about to ship.

No change on the Apple site though.

FourFourRED · 01-11-2017 12:13am

Melina Victorious Seat wrote: »

The pending charge on my card has changed to an actual transaction now. Hopefully that means it’s about to ship.

No change on the Apple site though.

Thursday, probably.

8bi1ctzegfouva · 01-11-2017 12:14am

FourFourFM wrote: »

Thursday, probably.

Fingers crossed anyway.

Third_Echelon · 01-11-2017 12:20am

Oafley Jones wrote: »

I might agree if the 8 sales weren’t poor. It’s diminsihing returns on that design. I’d say an x plus is inevitable.

That was always going to be the case when you launch 2 different phones at the same time. People are always going to wait or go with the better option. If there was no X, the 8 sales would have been very similar to the 7.

The iPhone 8/+ is a very good phone in its own right, but comparing it to X, if you had the money, you'd wait. That's natural. I don't think that makes the 8 a bad phone.

It's clear that they are creating different price point streams. The $100 increase or so from 6 up to 8 will appeal to various audiences. I don't think the 8 and X are even meant to compete. They are targeted at slightly different groups and pockets depths.

In my own case, I live in California and I have the iPhone 6s from my employer for my work phone (hopefully I can change that soon as iOS 11 is killing my battery life). I kept my Irish number as well and just switched it to pre-pay so that I can keep the number and top it up a few time per year. I had a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 on that number and it was recently stolen. As there are very good deals now on iPhone 7, I think that I might just get the 7 Plus to replace that. As it's a phone that I won't use that much (only when I'm back home a few times per year), it's a no brainer. I wouldn't spend crazy amounts on an X for that.

stimpson · 01-11-2017 12:52am

mad muffin wrote: »

To get fast charging to work with qi do you need a special wall plug and cable?

You need a Qi pad capable of 7.5W and a USB charger capable of 7.5w. At 5V for USB that means a charger capable of delivering 1.5 amps. I'm going to use an iPad charger (2.1A). I posted the Qi I ordered from Amazon earlier. I think it's good for 15W.

BTW, it's still going to be slower than a wired charger.

mad muffin · 01-11-2017 8:54am

stimpson wrote: »

You need a Qi pad capable of 7.5W and a USB charger capable of 7.5w. At 5V for USB that means a charger capable of delivering 1.5 amps. I'm going to use an iPad charger (2.1A). I posted the Qi I ordered from Amazon earlier. I think it's good for 15W.

BTW, it's still going to be slower than a wired charger.

I see that. They are much more expensive than the 5W ones.

I went for these in the end

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01H7547AE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073NZ43KY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

stimpson · 01-11-2017 9:00am

mad muffin wrote: »

I see that. They are much more expensive than the 5W ones.

I went for these in the end

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01H7547AE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073NZ43KY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is £15 and does 15W https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074QGFDMM

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