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    #1412
    Elessar
    Registered Users Posts: 5,251 ✭✭✭Elessar


    Yeah be careful with these mobile phone insurance firms....the one linked on the last page doesn't cover theft or loss outside the home. Also won't cover cosmetic damage that doesn't affect the operation of the phone...i.e. that big scratch or dent you got from it falling. Just take good care of your phone and save yourself the extra €.


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    #1413
    JoeA3
    Registered Users Posts: 7,442 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    I’m wary of these insurance policies too tbh. Akin to travel insurance.

    Has anyone had direct experience of damaging a phone and making a successful claim? I’d imagine it’s a total ball ache.

    Touch wood I’ve never lost a phone. Never stolen. Only Broke one screen in 10 years (iphone4). Law of averages would say I’m safe enough. Touch wood!!

    I always feel the odds are heavily stacked in the insurance company’s favour.

    The AppleCare is ludicrously expensive.


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    #1414
    stimpson
    Registered Users Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Elessar wrote: »
    Yeah be careful with these mobile phone insurance firms....the one linked on the last page doesn't cover theft or loss outside the home. Also won't cover cosmetic damage that doesn't affect the operation of the phone...i.e. that big scratch or dent you got from it falling. Just take good care of your phone and save yourself the extra €.

    The policy document says:
    theft or loss of the device left unattended when it is away from your home

    which is pretty standard for insurance. Id be suprised if any policy will cover you for leaving your stuff unattended.


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    #1415
    sink
    Registered Users Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    Insurance should only be bought for that which you can not afford to replace e.g House or Car. Otherwise you're far better off creating your own contingency savings. You could insure your phone for €150 per year, but what happens if your car breaks or your boiler or your leg? That €150 spent of phone insurance is now useless to you. If you put that money along with money spent on insurance for other small items into savings after a couple of years you will have more than enough money to cover the cost of replacing any small breakages. This assumes you're not a total klutz who breaks a new phone more than once every 5 years and that you have the discipline to not spend it frivolously.


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    #1416
    AidenL
    Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭AidenL


    Its all about peace of mind and aversion to risk.


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    #1417
    stimpson
    Registered Users Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭stimpson


    sink wrote: »
    Insurance should only be bought for that which you can not afford to replace e.g House or Car. Otherwise you're far better off creating your own contingency savings. You could insure your phone for €150 per year, but what happens if your car breaks or your boiler or your leg? That €150 spent of phone insurance is now useless to you. If you put that money along with money spent on insurance for other small items into savings after a couple of years you will have more than enough money to cover the cost of replacing any small breakages. This assumes you're not a total klutz who breaks a new phone more than once every 5 years and that you have the discipline to not spend it frivolously.

    If you break one iPhone X in 8 years then you are ahead.


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    #1418
    JoeA3
    Registered Users Posts: 7,442 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    sink wrote: »
    Insurance should only be bought for that which you can not afford to replace e.g House or Car. Otherwise you're far better off creating your own contingency savings. You could insure your phone for €150 per year, but what happens if your car breaks or your boiler or your leg? That €150 spent of phone insurance is now useless to you. If you put that money along with money spent on insurance for other small items into savings after a couple of years you will have more than enough money to cover the cost of replacing any small breakages. This assumes you're not a total klutz who breaks a new phone more than once every 5 years and that you have the discipline to not spend it frivolously.

    I agree. And even with car insurance you’re always reluctant to actually make a claim unless it’s really into the thousands. Otherwise you lose your NCB. I just hate paying for it...

    Now of course the X is probably the first phone that has me thinking about it. It’s at a point where maybe insurance is worth thinking about. I’m just not convinced all of these 10 euro per month operators will actually pay out easily in the event of a claim.

    As a friend said to me during the week - “I’m not sure I’d feel comfortable with a phone in my pocket that doubles the value of my car every time I sit into it”.


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    #1419
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    I stuck mine as all risks specified on my home insurance


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    #1420
    FrankGrimes
    Registered Users Posts: 4,031 ✭✭✭FrankGrimes


    adam88 wrote: »
    You need to ask the agent in the store for the version that can be used in Ireland. That's what I was told when I enquirer about my 6. Something to do with sims or gsms or some lark like that

    That sounds vague. Are there really different versions with different cellular compatibility? Hadnt heard there were so would be good to confirm.


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    #1421
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,845 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    FrankGrimes wrote: »
    That sounds vague. Are there really different versions with different cellular compatibility? Hadnt heard there were so would be good to confirm.

    Some US networks (Verizon and Sprint) use CDMA whereas the others use GSM.

    Mobile networks in Europe are GSM, if you buy a CDMA phone it won't work here. But I think recent iPhones support both standards.

    I think there are also differences in terms of LTE though. Some US iPhones might not get LTE here.


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    #1422
    iancairns
    Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭iancairns


    AidenL wrote: »
    That might be more sensible than AppleCare and roughly same price for 2 years, with Loss and Theft cover.

    Yeah it’s great but if beware if you break your phone screen the replacement might not be as good quality as screen with Apple.

    I broke my iPhone 6 screen slipping out of hoodie pocket onto a tile leaning over to dryer the week phone released. No where had the proper glass and what I got replaced was ****e and popped out past seems.


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    #1423
    stimpson
    Registered Users Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭stimpson


    snowflaker wrote: »
    I stuck mine as all risks specified on my home insurance

    The problem with that is your home insurance could double in the event of a claim.


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    #1424
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    stimpson wrote: »
    The problem with that is your home insurance could double in the event of a claim.

    It would hardly double and it’s €6 a year extra.

    5 years all good so far


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    #1425
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,501 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    stimpson wrote: »
    The problem with that is your home insurance could double in the event of a claim.

    I’ve had to make a claim on home insurance in the past - it would be unusual for it to double in cost following a claim.

    It’s not like the motor insurance market (loss of no claims discount and an assumption that you’re a careless driver).


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    #1426
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    I think the versions that are used on ATAT in the USA are more or less the same units


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    #1427
    Bob24
    Registered Users Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    FrankGrimes wrote: »
    adam88 wrote: »
    You need to ask the agent in the store for the version that can be used in Ireland. That's what I was told when I enquirer about my 6. Something to do with sims or gsms or some lark like that

    That sounds vague. Are there really different versions with different cellular compatibility? Hadnt heard there were so would be good to confirm.

    You want to get model A1901 which is the one sold on AT&T and T-Mobile (and will presumably be the one sold sim-free when they start doing sim fee in the US).

    It’s exactly the same which is being sold in Europe: https://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/


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    #1428
    AidenL
    Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭AidenL


    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    I’ve had to make a claim on home insurance in the past - it would be unusual for it to double in cost following a claim.

    It’s not like the motor insurance market (loss of no claims discount and an assumption that you’re a careless driver).

    Did your premium not increase though? I had a claim for storm damage and I found I was stuck with the same insurance company for 5 years till the claim disappeared off my history.

    They were able to increase my premium at will, as I was uninsurable elsewhere.


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    #1429
    AidenL
    Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭AidenL


    iancairns wrote: »
    Yeah it’s great but if beware if you break your phone screen the replacement might not be as good quality as screen with Apple.

    I broke my iPhone 6 screen slipping out of hoodie pocket onto a tile leaning over to dryer the week phone released. No where had the proper glass and what I got replaced was ****e and popped out past seems.

    Dammit, maybe back to AppleCare then.

    Or self insure. But the repair costs are phenomenal. But then a case should prevent the worst damage anyway.


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    #1430
    soundsham
    Registered Users Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭soundsham


    stimpson wrote: »
    sink wrote: »
    Insurance should only be bought for that which you can not afford to replace e.g House or Car. Otherwise you're far better off creating your own contingency savings. You could insure your phone for €150 per year, but what happens if your car breaks or your boiler or your leg? That €150 spent of phone insurance is now useless to you. If you put that money along with money spent on insurance for other small items into savings after a couple of years you will have more than enough money to cover the cost of replacing any small breakages. This assumes you're not a total klutz who breaks a new phone more than once every 5 years and that you have the discipline to not spend it frivolously.

    If you break one iPhone X in 8 years then you are ahead.
    stimpson wrote: »
    sink wrote: »
    Insurance should only be bought for that which you can not afford to replace e.g House or Car. Otherwise you're far better off creating your own contingency savings. You could insure your phone for €150 per year, but what happens if your car breaks or your boiler or your leg? That €150 spent of phone insurance is now useless to you. If you put that money along with money spent on insurance for other small items into savings after a couple of years you will have more than enough money to cover the cost of replacing any small breakages. This assumes you're not a total klutz who breaks a new phone more than once every 5 years and that you have the discipline to not spend it frivolously.

    If you break one iPhone X in 8 years then you are ahead.
    stimpson wrote: »
    sink wrote: »
    Insurance should only be bought for that which you can not afford to replace e.g House or Car. Otherwise you're far better off creating your own contingency savings. You could insure your phone for €150 per year, but what happens if your car breaks or your boiler or your leg? That €150 spent of phone insurance is now useless to you. If you put that money along with money spent on insurance for other small items into savings after a couple of years you will have more than enough money to cover the cost of replacing any small breakages. This assumes you're not a total klutz who breaks a new phone more than once every 5 years and that you have the discipline to not spend it frivolously.

    If you break one iPhone X in 8 years then you are ahead.


    If you break it once once in 8 yrs
    Some people are clumsy
    I’ve a daughter who would smash a diamond

    Insure according to risk


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    #1431
    og2k7
    Registered Users Posts: 415 ✭✭og2k7


    Played with one today in 3 shop: doesn't stand out too much when compared to bigger phones displayed (galaxy s8 i think etc). Tried the gestures (from memory) and they worked quite well (saying this is after 2 mins of messing about).

    The gestures seem quite well thought out as they felt natural


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    #1432
    stimpson
    Registered Users Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭stimpson


    soundsham wrote: »
    If you break it once once in 8 yrs
    Some people are clumsy
    I’ve a daughter who would smash a diamond

    Insure according to risk

    I’ve dropped my phone on occasion, but I’ve never actually broke one. This phone has glass front and back. The risk of breaking this one is far higher.


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    #1433
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,641 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Does anyone know if Apple’s own leather case offer much screen protection by way of a raised bezel?


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    #1434
    Castlebel
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Castlebel


    faceman wrote: »
    Does anyone know if Apple’s own leather case offer much screen protection by way of a raised bezel?

    Yes there’s a raised edge around the screen. Planning on getting one myself


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    #1435
    Blazer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    faceman wrote: »
    Does anyone know if Apple’s own leather case offer much screen protection by way of a raised bezel?

    No they don’t.
    I’ve used them on every iPhone since 6+,6s+ and both times the glass has shattered. The impact of the edge of the case hitting the glass is still enough to shatter or crack it through shock damage.


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    #1436
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    All quiet in the movement front? I was hoping to start seeing more orders shipped or preparing to ship. Hopefully very soon lol. I already have the inductive charger and case ready.


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    #1437
    Calvin
    Registered Users Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭Calvin


    They might start tomorrow/Tuesday....hoping mine changes to preparing for dispatch!!


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    #1438
    AidenL
    Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭AidenL


    I'm hoping mine might come tomorrow, if UPS get their act together.


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    #1439
    Marty Bird
    Registered Users Posts: 1,941 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    Blazer wrote: »
    No they don’t.
    I’ve used them on every iPhone since 6+,6s+ and both times the glass has shattered. The impact of the edge of the case hitting the glass is still enough to shatter or crack it through shock damage.

    I’ve used the official Apple case since the 6 and I’d agree up to now there was no protection on the front, but using the X since yesterday with the official leather case the case is raised more at the edges and feels like it will protect more on impact it’s not something that I would be testing all the same.

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    #1440
    eeloe
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    Anyone else experiencing incredible battery life?

    I dunno did I just jinx myself by saying that! Haha.

    After 48 hours, i’m 99% in love....this is what it should have been all along, perfect size.

    The reason i’m leaving out the 1% is, faceID, while it works most of the time, sometimes it’s awkward for me. Hopefully it will improve.


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    #1441
    Rew
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    stimpson wrote: »
    I’ve dropped my phone on occasion, but I’ve never actually broke one. This phone has glass front and back. The risk of breaking this one is far higher.

    I have completely destroyed 2 and partially ruined a 3rd which isn't bad in 8/9 years. Forked out 300 quid each to Apple for the destroyed ones to be "repaired" (they replaced them coz they were totally ****ed)


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