Liverpool vs. Sevilla UCL Matchday 1, RTÉ 2 and BT Sport 2 7:45pm

blueser · 13-09-2017 9:24pm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

We are great to watch - but Klopp genuinely hasn't a notion about defense.

Like Rugby - you could say Pool need a coach for defense side alone

I feel your pain!

machiavellianme · 13-09-2017 9:24pm

Karius has to be the worst keeper I've seen play for Liverpool.
I may be drunk but I still reckon I could offer more than he does.

murpho999 · 13-09-2017 9:24pm

dogbert27 wrote: »

Liverpool have won only 1 of the 8 Cl games they've played against Spanish opposition in the CL at Anfield.

Would that be when they beat Real 4-0?

Anyhow, it has zero influence on tonight's game.

Utopia Parkway · 13-09-2017 9:25pm

machiavellianme wrote: »

Karius has to be the worst keeper I've seen play for Liverpool.
I may be drunk but I still reckon I could offer more than he does.

Hasn't really done much wrong tonight. Can't be blamed for the goals.

murpho999 · 13-09-2017 9:25pm

machiavellianme wrote: »

Karius has to be the worst keeper I've seen play for Liverpool.
I may be drunk but I still reckon I could offer more than he does.

I don't really see what he's done wrong tonight in all fairness.

murpho999 · 13-09-2017 9:26pm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

We are great to watch - but Klopp genuinely hasn't a notion about defense.

Like Rugby - you could say Pool need a coach for defense side alone

Maybe he knows more about defence though as I don't think he does American football.

FixdePitchmark · 13-09-2017 9:27pm

citytillidie wrote: »

So tonight Klopp is at fault for Lovern falling over and missing a ball?

he plays him and won't sign defenders quick enough.

Klopp's idea is we score 4/5 - see what happens - it works sometimes.

murpho999 · 13-09-2017 9:28pm

Cool heads and calm play can still win this.

Harry Palmr · 13-09-2017 9:28pm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

That was my point earlier.

There is not control to the game at all.

It's also what I remember of Klopp's Dortmund! A mad yellow and black attack of demented bees

kingshankly · 13-09-2017 9:28pm

Coutino Way of the pace

Chancer3001 · 13-09-2017 9:28pm

citytillidie wrote: »

So tonight Klopp is at fault for Lovern falling over and missing a ball?

Klopp is at fault for picking him. For.not signing a better replacement .for not providing better players around him. For not setting the team.uo to protect the back 4 better.

It's the likes of klopp and Wenger who make me appreciate the likes of mourinho and Benitez. Managers who really understand how.to defend. How to set up a team to defend.

Klopp just seems to pick 4 defenders and hope for the best

whatawaster · 13-09-2017 9:30pm

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Klopp is at fault for picking him. For.not signing a better replacement .for not providing better players around him. For not setting the team.uo to protect the back 4 better.

It's the likes of klopp and Wenger who make me appreciate the likes of mourinho and Benitez. Managers who really understand how.to defend. How to set up a team to defend.

Klopp just seems to pick 4 defenders and hope for the best

But Mourinho or Benitez teams don't attack nearly as well. It's a balancing act

citytillidie · 13-09-2017 9:30pm

2nd half just has not been as composed with the final ball as the 1st half

FixdePitchmark · 13-09-2017 9:30pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

It's also what I remember of Klopp's Dortmund! A mad yellow and black attack of demented bees

Does he take it serious - our issues at all.

I'm genuinely very worried he has a rather twisted philosophy on the game.

Maybe - just maybe , he can't do it at the back. Ho long do we have to put up with this -

How many goals have we conceded this season - it is chronic stuff.

Headshot · 13-09-2017 9:31pm

Doesnt make much sense to bring on Ox so late into the game.

ERG89 · 13-09-2017 9:31pm

whatawaster wrote:

But Mourinho or Benitez teams don't attack nearly as well. It's a balancing act

They would shut up shop & have the feet up now. Klopp wasting time now making subs this late.

Chancer3001 · 13-09-2017 9:32pm

Why take off mane who can't play the next 3 games??

13-09-2017 9:33pm

Ox to get 5 ish mins

whatawaster · 13-09-2017 9:33pm

ERG89 wrote: »

They would shut up shop & have the feet up now. Klopp wasting time now making subs this late.

These managers must never lose games so

kingshankly · 13-09-2017 9:34pm

There can be no argument that liverpools defence is getting worse and worse under klopp

yabadabado · 13-09-2017 9:34pm

whatawaster wrote: »

But Mourinho or Benitez teams don't attack nearly as well. It's a balancing act

Both of them are way more successful. Football still is about winning trophies.

Chancer3001 · 13-09-2017 9:36pm

Plus their teams can of course attack.

Think mourinho Real team scored the most ever goals in a season?

Organising a defence is much more difficult and rare than having a crazy open attacking team

A team of demented bees as another poster put it

murpho999 · 13-09-2017 9:36pm

Bloody hell, we got away with it there.

FixdePitchmark · 13-09-2017 9:37pm

jaysus - lads we are ****

dogbert27 · 13-09-2017 9:37pm

whatawaster wrote: »

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Klopp is at fault for picking him. For.not signing a better replacement .for not providing better players around him. For not setting the team.uo to protect the back 4 better.

It's the likes of klopp and Wenger who make me appreciate the likes of mourinho and Benitez. Managers who really understand how.to defend. How to set up a team to defend.

Klopp just seems to pick 4 defenders and hope for the best

But Mourinho or Benitez teams don't attack nearly as well. It's a balancing act

Benitez 2009 team knew how to attack!! Got frustrated with 12 fn parked buses!!

whatawaster · 13-09-2017 9:37pm

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Plus their teams can of course attack.

Think mourinho Real team scored the most ever goals in a season?

Organising a defence is much more difficult and rare than having a crazy open attacking team

A team of demented bees as another poster put it

Organising a defense is surely easier. Or is Pulis a better manager than Klopp?

Headshot · 13-09-2017 9:38pm

lol Klopp

"What have i done, why are you shouting at me"

chupacabra · 13-09-2017 9:38pm

lol

ERG89 · 13-09-2017 9:38pm

yabadabado wrote:

Both of them are way more successful. Football still is about winning trophies.

It's also about taking your chances & defending well something lacking in this performance. The latter is a trend that has continued far too long.

yabadabado · 13-09-2017 9:38pm

Why is Klopp making a fool of himself on the sideline there ?

FixdePitchmark · 13-09-2017 9:38pm

Tell you what you done.

You drew 2-2 , in a game we should have won Mr Klopp

Panic Football.

machiavellianme · 13-09-2017 9:38pm

Poor all in all. Gomez red summed it up. We need to figure out how to kill games off.

Diabhal Beag · 13-09-2017 9:39pm

"What have I done?"

Kept yer **** defenders like Lovren, Klopp bb.

Utopia Parkway · 13-09-2017 9:39pm

Almost managed to lose a game we should have been out of sight in.

13-09-2017 9:39pm

yabadabado wrote: »

Why is Klopp making a fool of himself on the sideline there ?

He reminded me of my 5 year old there!

Tigerandahalf · 13-09-2017 9:40pm

Liverpool are going nowhere under Klopp. He has no idea how to set up the defence. They are way too open.
Bring back Benitez.

yabadabado · 13-09-2017 9:40pm

whatawaster wrote: »

Organising a defense is surely easier. Or is Pulis a better manager than Klopp?

If it's easy then That doesn't say a lot for Klopp.The likes of Jose and Benitez can get the balance right something I don't think Klopp can do.

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 13-09-2017 9:41pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Liverpool are going nowhere under Klopp. He has no idea how to set up the defence. They are way too open.
Bring back Benitez.

seems to be cracking up there too

niallo27 · 13-09-2017 9:41pm

How can hamman say they are not a better side than 18 months ago. Pure madness.

FixdePitchmark · 13-09-2017 9:41pm

Didi - saying exactly what we are saying.

Slattsy · 13-09-2017 9:42pm

It's grand, Klopp is great craic.

Nothing else matters.

yabadabado · 13-09-2017 9:42pm

niallo27 wrote: »

How can hamman say they are not a better side than 18 months ago. Pure madness.

Because they arent

niallo27 · 13-09-2017 9:42pm

yabadabado wrote: »

If it's easy then That doesn't say a lot for Klopp.The likes of Jose and Benitez can get the balance right something I don't think Klopp can do.

Jose came 6th last year playing ****e football. It ain't that easy man.

murpho999 · 13-09-2017 9:42pm

niallo27 wrote: »

How can hamman say they are not a better side than 18 months ago. Pure madness.

He means defensively.

~Rebel~ · 13-09-2017 9:43pm

whatawaster wrote: »

But Mourinho or Benitez teams don't attack nearly as well. It's a balancing act

It's a balancing act, but the most obvious part is at least staffing your defense with decent players so you have the best chance of your unbalanced team keeping the score down.

But instead consistently we field defensive lineups that you'd be worried about even if we played with a DM. All of the defenders we played today could be improved upon in the transfer market without breaking the bank.

13-09-2017 9:43pm

Poor result at home. Liverpools defending costing then again

FixdePitchmark · 13-09-2017 9:43pm

Klopp so bad - He genuinely needs a new member of his team - he can't do it.

Shanee. · 13-09-2017 9:43pm

Our defence is non existent and has been for years. **** this ****

Utopia Parkway · 13-09-2017 9:44pm

yabadabado wrote: »

Because they arent

They are definitely better going forward. More options now. Defence probably around the same. Still ****e.

yabadabado · 13-09-2017 9:45pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

They are definitely better going forward. More options now. Defence probably around the same. Still ****e.

He was talking about the defence.

Liverpool vs. Sevilla UCL Matchday 1, RTÉ 2 and BT Sport 2 7:45pm

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