Who is the best player in the world at the moment?

NoviGlitzko

Who do you think is the best player in the world at the moment? For me it's Neymar.

Daledge

Lionel Messi

Neymar, while brilliant, is a shadow of the other two. No one else comes close.

NIMAN

Neymar

Its still between Messi and Ronaldo.

brevity

Neymar

Messi

GavRedKing

Neymar

Maradona

Kristopherus

Neymar

Messi, by a country mile !!!

GLaDOS

Sean Maguire

GavRedKing

Neymar

Messi is more talented, making him the best ever, IMO but Ronaldo is the most focused and driven athlete on the planet taking him to where he is now.

Both are obscenely talented, Messis seem to come more natural (well, discounting his HGH treatments) while Ronaldo, who was clearly very good in his own right, worked an awful lot harder to become the player he is now.

Messi for me has no equal as player, but nobody can ever take away what Ronaldo does and thats score goals for fun and lead his team to trophy after trophy.

It used to be a very one sided debate about 5 years ago but Real and Ronaldo have reigned in that debate considerably.

There wont be anyone around any time soon that can match what these two do, consistently for last decade, so we might as well lap it all up and appreciate them while we can.

Turtyturd

Definitely between Messi and Messi.

Except for in Egypt...then it's Salah.

ERG89

I'll avoid the obvious 2 but in last few months of last season & early this season Isco has been incredible.
His new contract is a big deal for Real.

irishguitarlad

Neymar

ERG89 wrote: »

I'll avoid the obvious 2 but in last few months of last season & early this season Isco has been incredible.
His new contract is a big deal for Real.

Saw him against italy and I couldnt get over the stuff he was doing with the ball, made veratti look like a fool. Unbelievable player and for me the best midfielder in the world.

Skylinehead

Neymar

Still Messi. He just has more to his game than Ronaldo.

Lionel Messi

bucketybuck

Lionel Messi

Some people want it to be otherwise, they want somebody to come along and be the greatest, familiarity has bred some contempt and they want a new name on all those Ballon d'ors.

But they'll have to wait, Messi and Ronaldo remain streets ahead of any other player on the planet. Neymar simply isn't on that "greatest of all time" level.

In my opinion Ronaldo remains the greatest and is currently the best in the world. Recent history just affirms this. But its sad to think that the end is near and soon those two will diminish and we will be back to mere mortals getting the awards.

jacksie66

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the whole year inn

Lionel Messi

Taking about splitting hairs,ones better at free kicks the others better on penos etc,Id sooner have Ronaldo in my squad,but if I ended up with Messi then so be it.

The Backwards Man

My Dad's bigger than your Dad.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Neymar

Messi.

Messi could be an all time great player without scoring a huge amount of goals , Ronaldo needs to score bucket loads of goals in order to be an all time great player (and in fairness he does that).

Messi is simply a genius who was gifted to the world Ronaldo turned himself into a great player and he is more human than Messi who's just a freakish talent that we probably won't see again for a long long time.

Messi has a genius level that has you in awe of him and you just want to enjoy watching him play, Ronaldo's greatness is his effectiveness as a player but he lacks Messi's aesthetic qualities and that is why he'll always be behind him regardless of what he achieves.

Mr.Nice Guy

Lionel Messi

Best I've ever seen following the sport is Messi.

Best player right now at this moment in time I would say is Ronaldo.

But it's close between the two of them.

Blazer

Lionel Messi

I thing we can all agree that Messi and Ronaldo are by far the two best soccer players in the world. For me Ronaldo shades it due to his sheer determination etc. When I look at Rooney I think you fat lazy git..if you have applied the same effort at Ronaldo where would you be.
Instead I think we should look at who are the next 5 best players.
I'm going with
Higuain,
Zlatan,
Isco,
Neymar,
Kane/Suarez (Suarez is a beast but Kane is only 25 I think so many good years ahead of me,..for me he's the true successor to Shearer).

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Lionel Messi

Ronaldo. Just has the edge on most aspects of his game. Especially drive.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

Neymar

such a rehashed topic but i side with what pique says: ronaldo is the best of the humans but messi is not human.

here's a more interesting question: who do you think will be the next ballon d'or winner who is not messi or ronaldo?

Donnielighto

Lionel Messi

georgiecasey wrote: »

such a rehashed topic but i side with what pique says: ronaldo is the best of the humans but messi is not human.

here's a more interesting question: who do you think will be the next ballon d'or winner who is not messi or ronaldo?

Neymar or someone from cl/wc/big tournament winners

R00ster

Neymar

The best comment on this debate I've heard is that Ronaldo is so good, he makes people question whether or not Messi is the greatest. Messi is the total footballer.

I'd love to see Neymar step up this season, he looks like he might.

Other than that, Messi is the best in the world. Look at him in the CL the other night, did everything. Ronaldo is ridiculously good as well it should go without saying. :P

fermanagh_man

Samuel Saiz or Pontus Jansson

Tough call

CSF

Lionel Messi

Messi is the most naturally talented and the most enjoyable footballer to watch IMO.

But Ronaldo's inner drive to never be anything other than better than the best has led to him being more decisive IMO.

For me, Messi = higher ceiling, Ronaldo = higher output.

SM01

Neymar

1. Messi.
2. Ronaldo.

I think Neymar is a sublime player but has quite a bit to go before being considered close to those two.

Neymar

Messi and Ronaldo are head and shoulders above Neymar. He'll never reach the heights they have.

irishman86

Lionel Messi

Ronaldo for me, look how Real struggled without him
Neymar is miles behind the other the two of them

irishman86

Lionel Messi

R00ster wrote: »

The best comment on this debate I've heard is that Ronaldo is so good, he makes people question whether or not Messi is the greatest. Messi is the total footballer.

He really isnt
His defence is suspect and dont get me started on goal keeping ability
He makes Liverpool goalies look solid

Rekop dog

Neymar

irishman86 wrote: »

Ronaldo for me, look how Real struggled without him
Neymar is miles behind the other the two of them

Solid reasoning lol, they've actually a better record without him than with him over his time at Madrid.

Now I wouldn't read anything into that from a they're better without him perspective, obviously they're not, but for you to base your reasoning on him being best in the world due to Madrid's slow start without him this season is idiotic in the extreme.

irishman86

Lionel Messi

Rekop dog wrote: »

Solid reasoning lol, they've actually a better record without him than with him over his time at Madrid.

Now I wouldn't read anything into that from a they're better without him perspective, obviously they're not, but for you to base your reasoning on him being best in the world due to Madrid's slow start without him this season is idiotic in the extreme.

:rolleyes: atta boy
Im basing him being the best in the world because hes been crowned best in the world 3 of the last 4
You discounting the fact that they have clearly missed him is idiotic in the extreme

Rekop dog

Neymar

irishman86 wrote: »

:rolleyes: atta boy
Im basing him being the best in the world because hes been crowned best in the world 3 of the last 4
You discounting the fact that they have clearly missed him is idiotic in the extreme

You *clearly* said look at how they struggle without him. What did you mean by it?

Had you used above reasoning I'd have been OK with it but you didn't.

irishman86

Lionel Messi

Rekop dog wrote: »

You *clearly* said look at how they struggle without him. What did you mean by it?

Had you used above reasoning I'd have been OK with it but you didn't.

Think what ever you want buddy, i couldnt care less
Ive already answered the question in the same way you posted the statement :rolleyes:

Rekop dog

Neymar

irishman86 wrote: »

Think what ever you want buddy, i couldnt care less
Ive already answered the question in the same way you posted the statement :rolleyes:

Your statement that they "struggle" without him is simply untrue. They've won 77% of league games where he hasn't played compared to 76% where he has in his entire time at Madrid. That is not struggling in any man's language. There are factors like a small few of those games he missed would be easier ones where is he'd be rested so you'd expect win rate to be higher in those anyway, but most are games he missed due to injury or suspension.

They're better with him in the side for sure, but they're still extremely strong without him, so far from struggling it's laughable unless you're just basing it on the couple of games this year which would be a hilariously small sample to base an opinion on. But feel free to explain yourself.

irishman86

Lionel Messi

Rekop dog wrote: »

Your statement that they "struggle" without him is simply untrue. They've won 77% of league games where he hasn't played compared to 76% where he has in his entire time at Madrid. That is not struggling in any man's language. There are factors like a small few of those games he missed would be easier ones where is he'd be rested so you'd expect win rate to be higher in those anyway, but most are games he missed due to injury or suspension.

They're better with him in the side for sure, but they're still extremely strong without him, so far from struggling it's laughable unless you're just basing it on the couple of games this year which would be a hilariously small sample to base an opinion on. But feel free to explain yourself.

Yawn, i aint biting buddy
You answered the wins more stats reason yourself, feel free to re-read your own statement

Rekop dog

Neymar

irishman86 wrote: »

Yawn, i aint biting buddy
You answered the wins more stats reason yourself, feel free to re-read your own statement

There's a million better reasons you could have chosen to make your point that he's the best instead of inaccurately trying to belittle what is a phenomenal *team* not just one individual.

irishman86

Lionel Messi

Rekop dog wrote: »

There's a million better reasons you could have chosen to make your point that he's the best instead of inaccurately trying to belittle what is a phenomenal *team* not just one individual.

Why would i belittle a team i openly support :rolleyes:
A team with my favorite player in Modric but ya ok :pac:
For you to ignore that when he plays teams focus on him well..........

Rekop dog

Neymar

irishman86 wrote: »

Why would i belittle a team i openly support :rolleyes:
A team with my favorite player in Modric but ya ok :pac:
For you to ignore that when he plays teams focus on him well..........

I'm not ignoring anything. I've agreed they're better with him, haven't disagreed he's the best in the world, personally can't split himself and Messi but whatever thats boring.

The only thing I'm arguing is your throwaway point that they struggle without him because its simply not true. But feel free to retract it. We all say silly things at times.

irishman86

Lionel Messi

Rekop dog wrote: »

I'm not ignoring anything. I've agreed they're better with him, haven't disagreed he's the best in the world, personally can't split himself and Messi but whatever thats boring.

The only thing I'm arguing is your throwaway point that they struggle without him because its simply not true. But feel free to retract it. We all say silly things at times.

I'll pass on the retraction :rolleyes:
We can agree on you saying silly things however

Irish_rat

Lionel Messi

At the moment it has to be Ronaldo

derfderf

Lionel Messi

Realistically it's only the classicos that Real should lose each season (with possibly two or three other tough games). If Ronaldo plays in all these then the winning stats without him are meaningless.

NoviGlitzko

Other (please state)

I honestly think at the end of the season people will be siding with Neymar. Happy to be wrong, but yeah.

derfderf

Lionel Messi

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

I honestly think at the end of the season people will be siding with Neymar. Happy to be wrong, but yeah.

PSG will need to make a serious impact in the champions league. The French league alone isn't enough to push him above the other two.

NoviGlitzko

Other (please state)

derfderf wrote: »

PSG will need to make a serious impact in the champions league. The French league alone isn't enough to push him above the other two.

Yeah true but even at Barca I thought he was a class above in his last season. We'll see.

Jayop

At the moment it's Ronaldo. Over their careers probably Messi.

Hard to separate them at club level, but at international level Ronaldo has that Euro 2016 medal, whereas Messi...I think the biggest news he made at international level was the whole retiring/unretiring thing...

Savman

Surely a better poll would be: Who can match the feats of Messi & Ronaldo?

I think Neymar will be close.

Rekop dog

Neymar

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hard to separate them at club level, but at international level Ronaldo has that Euro 2016 medal, whereas Messi...I think the biggest news he made at international level was the whole retiring/unretiring thing...

Aside from the world cup final, 3 copa America finals, two of which they lost on Pens. Ronaldo wasn't even on the pitch for most of that final so not sure how you think this separates them.

One_Of_Shanks

Still Messi for me.

Although Ragnar Klavan would be a close second.