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Ryanair Strike implications re Cancellations NO INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS POSTS

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    #992
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,888 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    never_mind wrote: »
    Hi all

    I am off in the coming weeks (Amsterdam) and haven't heard that the flight is cancelled. Am I safe to assume that we are good to go or should I contact Ryanair? Their online chat system has been consistently busy and won't let me ask them.

    Thanks

    all cancelled flights up to end October are listed


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    #993
    never_mind
    Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    Riskymove wrote: »
    all cancelled flights up to end October are listed

    Only until 2 October. My flight is 13th.


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    #994
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    You should have got an email if your flight was cancelled.


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    #995
    never_mind
    Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    Funny... I know you're saying it'll be grand but there is just this weird idea at the back of my head that they are going to screw me over!!


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    #996
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,888 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    They published all flights until end of October previously

    http://fr-prod-static-pdf.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/flightcancellations.pdf

    https://www.joe.ie/news/ryanair-full-list-cancellations-601559


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    #997
    Fred Swanson
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    #998
    The Rape of Lucretia
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    Bazzy wrote: »
    He's making sure the same thing wont happen again

    Sensible i'm sure you'll agree

    How could there be any risk it could happen again ? This 6 week problem was a one off due to the change of holiday roster calender period, and it isnt being changed next year. So nothing to allow for particularly - it should be the normal full schedule plus growth. No problem with pilot numbers either - as O'Leary says, he has plenty already.


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    #999
    View Profile
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    737max wrote:
    I have reacted by not selling my shares; Is that what you mean.
    I mean shareholders demanding their CEO,who is personally responsible for the recent and ongoing share price decrease, to resign as he is unwilling to deal with the problem at hand, pilot turnover due to deplorable conditions.


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    #1000
    737max
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    View Profile wrote: »
    I mean shareholders demanding their CEO,who is personally responsible for the recent and ongoing share price decrease, to resign as he is unwilling to deal with the problem at hand, pilot turnover due to deplorable conditions.
    Look at the stock charts and see if a cold blooded investor would fire the man who has made them much wealthier over the last number of years. Stocks like Ryanair are few and far between.


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    #1001
    devnull
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    Tick the box next to the flight at the top and then click the fare price of the new flight.
    View Profile wrote: »
    I mean shareholders demanding their CEO,who is personally responsible for the recent and ongoing share price decrease, to resign as he is unwilling to deal with the problem at hand, pilot turnover due to deplorable conditions.

    99.3% of the shareholders voted for him to stay last week but lets not let facts get in the way of a good story or rant.


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    #1002
    Blut2
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    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    How could there be any risk it could happen again ? This 6 week problem was a one off due to the change of holiday roster calender period, and it isnt being changed next year. So nothing to allow for particularly - it should be the normal full schedule plus growth. No problem with pilot numbers either - as O'Leary says, he has plenty already.

    Yes, it is almost like what O'Leary is saying in the media and what is happening in real life aren't adding up isn't it :pac:

    I'll definitely be booking alternative airlines for any travel within the next 6 months if possible. This could very easily bleed into more cancellations if the pilots don't reaction an agreement about employment changes with management.


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    #1003
    Fred Swanson
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    #1004
    Bazzy
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    Can you click on the + sign at "View change flight fees" Might be something in there?


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    #1005
    View Profile
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    737max wrote:
    Look at the stock charts and see if a cold blooded investor would fire the man who has made them much wealthier over the last number of years. Stocks like Ryanair are few and far between.

    But the man is making mistakes, and lots of them.

    It took shareholders, two years ago at an AGM, to demand O'Leary improve passenger treatment because he was dragging Ryanair's name into the gutter.
    The same " brilliant " CEO later admitted he never realised being nice to customers would improve business. What kind of business man wouldn't be aware of that fact?!!

    His persona is the problem and that will never change. Shareholders or the Board are the only people he listens too so they have the power to demand he deals with the staffing issues.


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    #1006
    Bazzy
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    View Profile wrote: »
    But the man is making mistakes, and lots of them.

    It took shareholders, two years ago at an AGM, to demand O'Leary improve passenger treatment because he was dragging Ryanair's name into the gutter.
    The same " brilliant " CEO later admitted he never realised being nice to customers would improve business. What kind of business man wouldn't be aware of that fact?!!

    His persona is the problem and that will never change. Shareholders or the Board are the only people he listens too so they have the power to demand he deals with the staffing issues.

    He was momumental in the change of prices in aviation

    He's an accountant and treats it like an accountant treats everything

    But most of all he's human and we all make mistakes he hedged fuel prices back a few years ago and was wrong he made a mistake then and he admitted it.

    131 million people travelled with Ryanair

    They are in the unique situation of supply being unable to cope with demand as i've said before

    People are fickle once this has blown over some cheap flights and it'll be business as usual


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    #1007
    737max
    Closed Accounts Posts: 993 ✭✭✭737max


    @ViewProfile: Were you among the less than 3 percent of shareholders who didn't vote for his continued employment.

    Managing Directors don't get fired because they are unpopular so long as they produce results.


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    #1008
    Dardania
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    737max wrote: »
    @ViewProfile:  Were you among the less than 3 percent of shareholders who didn't vote for his continued employment.

    Managing Directors don't get fired because they are unpopular so long as they produce results.
    Ex CEO of Uber would like a word...


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    #1009
    Fred Swanson
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    #1010
    wolfyboy555
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    Had return booked to Birmingham booked and one leg was cancelled. Got the refund for both legs and booked aer lingus instead. Just got emailed €80 voucher. Not too bad!


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    #1011
    737max
    Closed Accounts Posts: 993 ✭✭✭737max


    Dardania wrote: »
    Ex CEO of Uber would like a word...
    I'll speak with him briefly after his firm stops chewing through billions of dollars of capital and starts turning consistent profits quarter on quarter.


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    #1012
    john boye
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    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    How could there be any risk it could happen again ? This 6 week problem was a one off due to the change of holiday roster calender period, and it isnt being changed next year. So nothing to allow for particularly - it should be the normal full schedule plus growth. No problem with pilot numbers either - as O'Leary says, he has plenty already.

    You almost seem to be accusing him of being economical with the truth when faced with a slobbering media which blindly accepts everything he says at face value.


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    #1013
    View Profile
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    Bazzy wrote:
    He was momumental in the change of prices in aviation

    Bazzy wrote:
    People are fickle once this has blown over some cheap flights and it'll be business as usual

    Bazzy wrote:
    131 million people travelled with Ryanair


    He was momumental 20 odd years ago, times have moved on. He needs to adapt or get out!

    You're right, people will forget with time. However this is very different from anything Ryanair faced previously.
    They are cancelling massive amounts of flights, affecting nearly half a million people's plans. Those people, their families, their bosses and friends will not forget that inconvenience as easily. This inconvenience is not going away after a few days or weeks. It is continuing well into next year and most likely well beyond that.
    I can assure you that passengers will be wary to book a ticket, even if it were free, with an airline that is cancelling flights as part of a longterm strategy.


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    #1014
    fr336
    Registered Users Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Pelvis wrote: »
    It's laughable that MOL still has a job. Bunch of cowboys Ted.

    Yawn.......


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    #1015
    fr336
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    Absolutely hilarious that MOL is apparently suddenly a failure. They posted over a BILLION euros of profit AFTER tax this year. If anything FR relies too heavily on him. Lots of business experts out there on here, Twitter, Facebook....yawn yawn yawn. Oh and FR's share price rose 2% today.......


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    #1016
    MollsGap
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    fr336 wrote: »
    Absolutely hilarious that MOL is apparently suddenly a failure. They posted over a BILLION euros of profit AFTER tax this year. If anything FR relies too heavily on him. Lots of business experts out there on here, Twitter, Facebook....yawn yawn yawn. Oh and FR's share price rose 2% today.......

    I would be glad to be considered a failure if I his bank account!


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    #1017
    billy few mates
    Registered Users Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    Where are the IAA in all this...?
    I haven't seen a single statement from them about this situation.

    Why is it being left up to the UK CAA to bring Ryanair to book over this fiasco...?

    http://www.caa.co.uk/News/CAA-expedites-enforcement-action-against-Ryanair-for-persistently-misleading-passengers/


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    #1018
    1123heavy
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    billy few mates wrote: »
    Where are the IAA in all this...?
    I haven't seen a single statement from them about this situation.

    Why is it being left up to the UK CAA to bring Ryanair to book over this fiasco...?

    http://www.caa.co.uk/News/CAA-expedites-enforcement-action-against-Ryanair-for-persistently-misleading-passengers/

    They're rolling over too afraid to upset their true master


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    #1019
    billy few mates
    Registered Users Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    1123heavy wrote: »
    They're rolling over too afraid to upset their true master

    It certainly looks like it...:confused:


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    #1020
    billy few mates
    Registered Users Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    The current Ryanair management should be hauled over the coals for this latest round of cancellations. It seems Ryanair would rather inconvenience their passengers and sacrifice the growth and expansion they've been working so hard to achieve so MOL doesn't have to lose face by engaging with his pilots and possibly conceding to some of their demands.
    Rather than trying to come up with a solution that could solve the revolving door situation they have with pilots leaving for 'greener pastures' they abandon their principles and slash the schedule to suit the number of pilots they hope will hang around long enough to operate it!
    They say there won't be any more cancellations but how can they guarantee this until they solve the problem of retaining pilots and they'll never solve it while MOL is at the helm, his vanity would never allow it.

    This company was was once our greatest economic success story, it's a laughing stock now.


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    #1021
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,710 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Its the Commission for Aviation Regulation not the IAA who deal with such action.


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